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- lemur, on 11/22/2008, -5/+110I think Songbird's biggest flaw is that it's Firefox. Just try it; it's like running Firefox on your system twice and wasting a crap load of memory. The developers even talk about how awesome it is that you can install all these popular Firefox addons in Songbird. It's not even good at managing your music library.
Songbird's other biggest flaw is that it's based on a customized version of XULRunner. XULRunner is like a "universal" runtime that many applications should be able to depend on in order to have embedded web content. Having a special fork of XULRunner defeats the purpose of XULRunner. The reason why Songbird is not packaged in major distributions such as Fedora is because they have already packaged XULRunner and don't deserve the pain of packaging special version of it to be concurrently installed just for the sake of a single application.
I feel bad for the project because Songbird actually has a beautiful interface and is capable of doing some very interesting and cool things, but the program itself is epic design fail. - inactive, on 11/22/2008, -6/+85I don't really need another media player. Winamp for music, and VLC for video. This combo works fine. I also don't need a fancy, bloated media library app. As it turns out, I'm pretty good at naming my files and folders.
- dejanigma, on 11/21/2008, -4/+56My only question is, can it handle my 60k song music collection? So far the only player i've run accross that can play 60k songs on random without crashing is Winamp.
Edit: hahaha glad someone else is thinking the same thing. - Taedirk, on 11/22/2008, -9/+59Reading the raw file and trying to hum the tune from the bytes is better than iTunes.
- razorxpress, on 11/21/2008, -4/+45I tried it some 4 months ago, but removed it within an hour. I did not like when i was offline the main page showed the offline browsing page. Another feature i did not like was it did not have more and necessary preferences(settings) to impress me and leave amarok
- ChileanGoD, on 11/22/2008, -3/+42it really whips the lama's ass!
- jannefoo, on 11/22/2008, -0/+38foobar2000 can easily handle about half million tracks (yes, someone tested)
- temujin2012, on 11/21/2008, -1/+38FTA - "It's light, fast, easy-to-use, and highly-customizable."
I wish the author had said something about large volumes of music...I'll try it when I get home, I guess.
Still like Foobar, personally, for the exact reasons as above. Windows-only, but it handles my large library very well, has a mass tagger, freedb tagging, replaygain, ui customizations, etc. etc. - inactive, on 11/22/2008, -1/+35Just use the deb file here.
http://www.getdeb.net/search.php?keywords=songbird - Melancholiatic, on 11/22/2008, -2/+30God forbid he likes a lot of music.
- ECas123, on 11/21/2008, -14/+41Awesome jukebox. Can't figure out how to install it in Ubuntu though :(
- almondfilter3, on 11/22/2008, -4/+29Better than Itunes, good enough for me.
- Skyview, on 11/21/2008, -4/+26The application where you have to manually update your ENTIRE song collection every time you put mp3 in your music directory.
- Pelikoira, on 11/22/2008, -2/+22Amarok is still best music player.
- zmur, on 11/22/2008, -2/+22ever heard of foobar ?
- georanson, on 11/22/2008, -1/+18even easier download the .deb
- JBrown99, on 11/22/2008, -3/+20Not sure why you're getting buried. Winamp is a great music player that does what it should - play music. No need for anything fancy. Same with VLC.
- chaos7, on 11/22/2008, -2/+17the windows version of itunes SUCKS
- inactive, on 11/22/2008, -2/+17I still can't find any good reason to use these full featured new school media players. Winamp on Windows and XMMS on BSD or Linux both still have all I need, playing music files and streaming radio.
- hiro, on 11/22/2008, -4/+19Dumb headline. Why not "Google docs, the Google Maps of spreadsheets"?
- booshack, on 11/22/2008, -5/+19Foobar 2000 really is the best player, especially since 9.5. As soon as the new SDK is realeased, it will be absolutely amazing I am sure. This is just one set up I have with the default ui, extremely easy and fun to set up:
http://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=foobarwi3 ...
Windows only, it's the music player for gamers i guess. - JBrown99, on 11/22/2008, -3/+17Agreed. WinAmp is the only player I'll use because it's small & lightweight (the older versions) but it handles a ton of music really well. No bloat at all.
- passedoutghost, on 11/22/2008, -1/+14What, you're saying iTunes is better?
Each time I open up iTunes it consumes 400,000+ mb of memory and makes my system lag. And then after that Cover Flow will refuse to work properly and I can't even edit the metadata because when the window appears, it's completely blank. I wish I didn't have to use iTunes, but it seems that it's pretty good at getting album artwork without too much of a hassle. And I don't like staring at a generic picture while looking through the songs on my iPod. - Soave, on 11/22/2008, -1/+13I hate the most emphasized feature: internet integration. I'd love a great open-source media player (Amarok for Windows soon please?), but I hate how much memory Songbird uses. I feel like most people have no use for a web-music player combo.
- Radan, on 11/22/2008, -4/+16On the PC perhaps, seeing how iTunes is a complete mess there, though on the Mac it's the other way around.
I actually tried songbird since I thought it was an interesting project, but I had to give up very early since it was just too buggy. It doesn't behave like a Mac application should either which makes it very awkward to use. Also, it doesn't have support for neither AirTunes nor the iPhone which is pretty much a deal breaker for me right there.
Good idea, but needs a lot more work. - motang, on 11/21/2008, -1/+12Just download the tar.gz, extract it anywhere you want. Right click on a panel and choose Custom Application Lanucher, and browse to where you extracted the data and choose file called songbird. From there you can choose the icon they provided in the directory (songbird.png) and choose a name for it. That should do that trick.
- mcprogrammer, on 11/22/2008, -0/+10http://thepiratebay.org/
- tomjowitt, on 11/22/2008, -1/+11It's a good player but not good enough to ditch Amarok for.
- leapetra, on 11/22/2008, -0/+9Same here, but tried it again. It has improved a lot. Worth another try.
- InspectorGadget, on 11/22/2008, -3/+12Linux: Amarok > Songbird.
Windows: Foobar2000, Winamp, Media Monkey > Songbird. - T8erT0T, on 11/22/2008, -0/+9Way to party like it's 1999.
P.S: She's not open source. Free? yes. Open? Nah brosky. - robinthehood, on 11/22/2008, -2/+11i love what songbird is doing but they have 2 major flaws:
1. a media/music player should not have an integrated browser, that's what firefox is for.
2. they still haven't figured out MTP support in Linux.
Until they figure both of those out, songbird gets a fail from me. - betona, on 11/22/2008, -0/+8While I still use it, I'm becoming less and less happy with Winamp because it's gotten so heavy and takes too long to load.
- inactive, on 11/22/2008, -1/+9I think he means it as the user equivalent not the functional equivalent, but you did win the nerd pissing contest.
- MattBD, on 11/22/2008, -2/+10It would be cool if someone made a BitTorrent client that was an extension for Songbird and linked directly to The Pirate Bay or other torrent search engine, so you could have a nice integrated iTunes Store equivalent, but without having to pay!
- DigitalisAkujin, on 11/22/2008, -6/+14I can not imagine how anyone could possibly seriously use a full screen audio player when audio is inherently a background process. Which is why I believe Winamp Classic Skin and XMMS with global hotkeys and custom plugins is the way to go but whatever lifts your inner audiophile I guess.
- renegadeafk, on 11/22/2008, -0/+8Am I the only one that hates amarok? it's gui is terrible. I prefer Banshee/Rhythmbox to amarok any day.
- AnarchyIsOrder1, on 11/22/2008, -0/+7Don't dig him down. This is a perfectly valid question that people may want the answer to, like me :)
I didn't know about getdeb.net. Thanks for the info. It was very helpful. - metalgel, on 11/22/2008, -0/+7I have 3GB of memory, i dont mind running it. its like a luxury that i can have because i can afford it. though you're right with how wasteful it is. as of right now my processes are using:
Firefox: 240MB
Songbird: 205MB
thats almost 450 MB of memory just between 2 apps. - SSUK, on 11/22/2008, -1/+8They're working on live folder functionality for the final release.
- bigfreakinlion, on 11/22/2008, -1/+8I'll switch if I can start syncing my iphone to songbird.
- chaos7, on 11/22/2008, -0/+7i do agree it's like running firefox twice. for example, passwords saved in songbird, are not saved in firefox. they should merge/fix this somehow.
- JakeW, on 11/22/2008, -3/+10I dugg you down because iTunes is a piece of *****.
- wiggles, on 11/22/2008, -0/+7Proprietary tie-ins like iTunes+iPod are the reason I refuse to own an iPod. My perfect player/smartphone/whatever will arrive when Android matures into a mainstream product.
- Alchemist11, on 11/22/2008, -3/+9How do you even get 60,000 songs?
- Nicoon, on 11/22/2008, -0/+6Orly?
http://getsongbird.com/download/ - dogson, on 11/22/2008, -2/+8its not cross platform, so no.
- c89a, on 11/22/2008, -0/+6only 400,000+ mb? i thought it was more than that
- Knivez, on 11/22/2008, -1/+6"It's light, fast, easy-to-use, and highly-customizable. Plus, it is fairly stable even though it is still in beta"
Is must be a different songbird, because last time i tried it it was slow, bloated and buggy as hell. -
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