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- mossblaser, on 05/20/2008, -0/+4About the blank xorg.conf file:
The new version of X is specifically designed to ensure that the config file is unnecessary now that auto detection and live configuration stuff is all sorted out. This is normal and will be from now on. - weizbox, on 05/20/2008, -1/+3A good example of how a steady release cycle can screw you over. If done well, it's great... but if you NEED to hit that deadline, and stuff isn't 100% ready, it gets shipped out regardless... and that's what I think we've seen with 8.04
- frup, on 05/20/2008, -3/+5I find it funny how every Ubuntu release there are people complaining about how it worse than the last. I can't remember if people were doing it for dapper after breezy, I was still too busy following internet guides to get the right set up at that point to pay attention. But 6.10 came along and people complained, it ran fine for me. 7.04 came along and once more people complained. 7.10 came along and suddenly 7.04 was the best release ever... and here we go again...
Ubuntu must seriously be getting worse every 6 months! It's run fine for me and for what I use it for, I only notice improvements. Having said that I have only tried to share folders once on 8.04, with a windows machine. The only bit of trouble I had was that I forgot to add a windows domain name at first (eg MSHOME). With our 3 Ubuntu machines we usually just use Apache. - Mejogid, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1First point - look into having it mount automatically through /etc/fstab
Second point - could you be more specific about the error?
Third point - xorg.conf is no longer necessary, since xorg now configures itself automatically. This was an upstream decision for xorg 8.4 i believe, and has nothing to do with Ubuntu or Canonical.
Fourth point - you probably want to look into frequency scaling - there's been reports of it not working correctly with 8.04, and this will probably be fixed in a kernel update at some stage.
As for those in the article:
Theme installation, the default location of mounted volumes & the connect to server problem are all gvfs regressions - it had to get put in to receive wider testing, and in the long term will unable gnome-mounted remote volumes to be used in all applications - including console ones - which is a huge plus, on top of speed increases and far more features in the long run (eg. a working trash function). Hopefully, these should be fixed in future updates for Hardy and it's indeed unfortunate that these changes happened before an LTS release.
I'm not too sure what the problem with all the samba issues mentioned is - I did admittedly have to reboot after right clicking and attempting to share a folder for the first time (the required package is installed automatically, I believe), but the workgroup name can be set in the system network preferences. - weizbox, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1Wow... that def sounds like a pain in the ass. I actually ran into some of those mounting issues on my friend's laptop after the upgrade. I kinda feel bad after I told him he should update to 8.04... I think it's time to make the switch... to a different distro. Lots of new releases coming out :)
Thats crazy about no xorg.conf file... but I'm not too surprised as I know some distros, and Ubuntu specifically, like to do things in a weird and non-standard way with a few things. I guess perhaps it helps them out with updates and out-of-the-box configs... but really hurts the user who wants to try to change things around and/or manually edit something. - knight666, on 05/20/2008, -1/+2Here's some of my own issues:
-when I boot up, // is mounted, but the other partition (/media/disk) isn't and I have to mount it to get my wallpaper back.
-most of the time, my usb disks get an error when I insert them, I have to manually do "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/disk-1", this wasn't an issue on gutsy.
-xorg.conf is empty! Where did all the settings go? How come "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg.conf" doesn't really do anything anymore?
-my laptop gets unpleasantly hot. :( - mossblaser, on 05/28/2008, -0/+1@weizbox
My xorg.conf has stuff in as well, the idea is that it should be used as a configuration file rather than specific instructions - i.e. only neccesarry to store your personal choices. - weizbox, on 05/20/2008, -1/+2If you don't end up doing much with it, like what your doing, it's hard to notice some of these differences. The points this guy is making are valid. I think from all the articles, and as well from personal experience, 8.04 is certainly a step backwards for quite a few things that used to just work in 7.10.
People will always be saying X is better than Y, or Y is better, but you can't let other past statements reflect on how you view new ones from different sources. People complain about nearly everything, so you just have to look into stuff a bit more to know if the complaint valid or not... and in this instance, it's quite valid. Don't let the past views cloud your view of current ones. - actionM, on 05/20/2008, -2/+3"According to pages on the web, you may have to drop into a command-line, run “sudo apt-get install nautilus-share” to install a new package"
Quit being a pussy. - weizbox, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1'Third point - xorg.conf is no longer necessary'
True, but it's still nice to have it around in case some things are giving you a pain, or you just want to tweak some settings, etc... which I'm guessing he wanted to do in the first place.
'and has nothing to do with Ubuntu or Canonical'
Yeah... I think it kinda does :) I'm using xorg 7.3, and I have a xorg.conf file that is read and used. They could have included an xorg.conf that the users could edit, but they decided not to. Apparently they don't want the users configuring much as they didn't even include a way to config compiz or pulse audio. Anyone know why they did this? - Rolcol, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1I don't like that ubuntu prompts me to autorun every time I plug in my flash drive.
- weizbox, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1hah, vnice. I'll be keeping mine around for now since it still doesn't seem to do *everything* automatically. Any idea when they will phase it out completely? Right now 7.3 is certainly reading and using my xorg.conf, so it will still take it if it's there, but I guess not *need* them. I'm wondering when it won't even read it anymore... def would be pretty nice :)
- weizbox, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1Fine! :P
Now i has 2 friends! - daftman, on 05/20/2008, -1/+2I don't think you understood his comment properly
- knight666, on 05/20/2008, -1/+2Hey weizbox, I added you as a friend, but you didn't add me back. ;[
Now I can't send you awesome articles. ;[
So what's the point of having 8 text editors that can edit configuration files but won't actually change anything?
Isn't that a bit... Microsofty?
(Linux Mint is my favourite distro, but a new version isn't coming out for another two months I reckon.) - SnowCrashv5, on 05/20/2008, -2/+2maybe when Ubuntu stops appealing to pussies, people will stop expecting their distro to treat them as such.
- Spr0k3t, on 05/20/2008, -3/+2Is this the first list of complaints about Ubuntu that doesn't include the default look? Out of the problems listed, the only one that plagues me is the update-manager "check" problem. That problem was still there back when I had Feisty installed (I can't remember if the problem was there in Edgy or Dapper though), so it's no different.
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