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- MikeCerm, on 10/10/2007, -6/+56Ubuntu has conquered the desktop? That's news to me.
- MavRevMatt, on 10/10/2007, -1/+29I use Ubuntu but...it's nowhere near "conquering" the desktop as said in numerous places before. That's just *****.
- BrandonMills, on 10/10/2007, -0/+27Er, Don't pull a Microsoft Shuttleworth. You've got a long way to go in the Desktop market. Now isn't the the time to spread yourself thin.
- Bonejob, on 10/10/2007, -3/+20I don't want to start a distro flame war, but Ubuntu (Canonical) did bring a bit of much need Direction, publicity and stability into a market that was going in circles. I am just glad to see some cash backing a "Linux" OS This will if anything cause companies to look at it with more favour and will allow administrators like myself to show our bosses that Open Source works without having to pay the Redhat, Suse licensing model.
- mobilehavoc, on 10/10/2007, -3/+16Ubuntu conquered the desktop just like the Zune conquered the MP3 player market.
- zenlunatic, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14"Ubuntu: To boldly go where no man has gone before."
All this ***** started when Shuttleworth went to outer-space. - rudy23, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14I stopped reading after this part "So now that the desktop has been conquered"
- skyshock1, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9I use Ubuntu regularly. It's not anywhere close to "conquering" the desktop market, especially considering it has maybe 2% market share of desktop PCs worldwide, and the graphics drivers for the two major manufacturers (Nvidia and ATI) are both horribly broken.
That said, there's absolutely no reason it can't work in an Enterprise environment. It works great at the Fortune 500 company where I work. - trogdoor, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Don't feed the trolls.
- daftman, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8Where do you get help when you have problem with Windows?
Microsoft? Google? Dell? - thecosmicpope, on 10/10/2007, -10/+15Well, I tried Ubuntu recently. I figured Digg was raving about it and I should actually try it before judging it. It reminds me of OpenOffice. Yeah its got a great price tag and does the same basics as Office 2007, but for an every day user who wants to game, photoshop, browse the net, etc, I'd stick with Windows thanks. Windows ran faster, and even Vista has less compatibility issues then Ubuntu did.
I found the whole experience enlightening. Ubuntu was far from bad, in fact is was quite nice and has some awesome features which I wish Windows had, but i still prefer Windows and probably will for a long time. Ubuntu struck me as something you need to be a bit more of an expert at to use, whilst Windows is easier to jump into not knowing what you're doing.
I'll get dugg down for not coming in and saying "OMG UBUNTU ROCKS" but thats the price of trying to be fair. - boxninja, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6That's where the LTS releases like 6.06 come in. They are supported and updated for 3 years on the desktop and 5 years with the server edition.
- naio, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7ZOMG TEN MILLION PEOPLE! Ballmer, shoot yourself now and avoid the shame!
;-) - marx2k, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5You are aware that canonical does have commercial support available, right?
http://www.ubuntu.com/support/paid - jdhore1, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4I have to say, prolly the best thing Ubuntu has going for it is the community...You can almost always find an answer to a problem you're having on the IRC, the forums or the Wiki (The Wiki's not the best, but it's the best i've seen on almost any distro).
- maino82, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6I'm sorry for the experiences that you had, but the community support for Ubuntu was what ultimately led me to the distro. I had tried Debian and RedHat and had the same hardware and software problems with them that I did in Ubuntu, but the Ubuntu forums gurus were friendly and helpful, something I didn't experience with the other distros. It took just as much work to get a lot of the stuff to work, but at least I had knowledgable people giving me quick responses rather than searching and searching through news groups and random webpages for answers. Hopefully not everyone has had the experience you had. Hopefully you'll give it another try sometime soon!
- daftman, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5Don't read this *****.
Here's a tip: Go to the profile section and filter out linux.
Judging from your stories dugg, you're not a typical user who read linux news anyay. Unless you are here for trolling and as an attention seeking whore? - chapium, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3"Dont pull a microsoft"
I'll think about that next time I walk through the office, pulsing to the rhythm of outlook reminders and flipping excel sheets. - daftman, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Coz that's Microsoft piece of *****.
- daftman, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Not really, enterprise ready is not about the software. It's also about the support, packaging, maintainance, etc.
- daftman, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Correct me if I am wrong but is there usually a gun that is hold against every sys admin job making them upgrade everytime there is a new release cycle? Do sys admins actually evaluate the release before upgrading or are they uneducated sheep that just follow whatever the distro dictate?
Furthermore, LTS has 3 years cycle. Follow that cycle if you wish. - chowmeined, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I do agree that there are a few issues keeping linux from the mainstream however, most of them are not the open source community's fault. The hardware compatibility is simply lack of vendor support and there is nothing that can be done about that until hardware companies make linux drivers. The same goes for your favorite games and photoshop etc.
As for it being difficult to use, it only seems difficult because it is different. Windows only seems easy because you already know it.
All of that aside, to me its not about the price tag. I have copies of windows and office and whichever but I choose to use linux because it is more powerful for the things I want to do. - naio, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Yeah, Linux is much better than Ubuntu!
;-) - ellisgl, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2"Shuttleworth concluded his keynote with "a call for discussion" in the Linux community. Mark thinks it would be much easier for Linux to compete in the enterprise market if all of the major distributions would set -- and stick to -- predictable release schedules. He says this would ease collaboration among kernel developers and afford better stability and support for software developers working on the platform. The idea for this strategy grew from discussions at the recent Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit."
Well each distro is out for its own agenda IIRMC. So it's hard to collaborate on a whole if there are different objectives.
For the people that said "Desktop ready", Desktop Ready and Enterprise/Corporate are two different things. Work vs. Home.
For enterprise I think it can be pulled off if a qualified person sets the system up for each user for their actual use. But a lot of planning has to be done with drivers for printers and making sure they can do email... Oh the special Windows based apps that would have to be supported via WINE.
I've been there.. Done that.. Watched IT try to force a full Linux operations several years ago.. Yet it would have flown well if it did get implemented, just because of the issue that would have risen up. - moocow1452, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Good. That Lcars crap is hard to navigate.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2sif if we install ubuntu on the enterprise the klingon's will start using apples!
- daftman, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Your grade 3 teacher is calling you back.
- blankfaze, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I run (K)ubuntu, and I think the phrase "Now that the desktop has been conquered" is abso-*****-lutely silly.
- daftman, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Unless you are too dumb to realize, most command line tutorials are much more efficient than 20 screenshot tutorials. Granted for those like yourself who can't read a book without illustrations, there are other computer literate people who can do just fine.
Conf is the same ***** as regedit but much cleaner. It isn't designed to be read by new users just like regedit isn't designed to be tampered by new users. - gildude, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11/2 your company moved? So that's one guy running Ubuntu. What is the other guy running?
- happytron, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Why would you want a reason to hate something?
- jabberwocky, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1It is much easier for a newbie / silver surfer to read or copy / paste the cmd line than trying to get them to read an error message on the screen or tick the right box in a from especially when you are helping them over the phone. Not that anyone I have set a linux box up for has required much help. It's usually attempting to do more advanced stuff they want to do that they never attempted in windows that I have to look up, as opposed to windows where 'it's fix my system it's broke it keeps displaying a message. with lots of zeros,
eg
err it just says command not found
ok press the up cursor key and check the line is ....
progamx x doesnot start / crash
ok open a termianl type in prgam x and do what you normally do when it crashes then read to me what it says
if you teach them how to make short cuts they can even make the command line they typed in a little icon on the desktop like clean print heads on their printer - darwin81, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Learning Ubuntu would probably be just as easy as learning Windows for someone who has never used a computer before. Ubuntu just seems harder because you're used to Windows. And Windows isn't as easy as people claim it to be. I've seen many machines get ***** up by spyware. malware, and dumb mistakes on Windows because people don't really know computing in general.
- jdhore1, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2I think Linux is great, but as much as i say that, it currently needs a bit more polish to be ready to take over the desktop. Ubuntu 7.10 is looking very close, it's just not there YET.
- FKnight, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1If anyone has problems with Microsoft technical support, I have to question their honesty about ever even calling Microsoft support. The will work to solve your problem 24/7 and, 9 out of 10 times, they won't even charge you. The few times I've had to call them, my problems were fixed every time. No charge.
- breadbin, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2lol, you spell "your" as "youre" and "you're" as "your". That's so ***** retarded.
- rudy23, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3unless that was a poor attempt at a joke you do know that ubuntu is also linux right?
- breadbin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Woah. That was really trippy.
- joestump, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Kind of a moot point since just about any Linux distribution (especially ones based on Debian) qualify as "enterprise friendly".
- SouLFacE, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1buried as inaccurate since its says 'the desktop has been conquered' :o
- darwin81, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1There's a Ubuntu story every couple of days which makes sense because it seems like a good amount of Diggers use it. If you want to bitch about spam go to one of the iPhone stories.
- darwin81, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I admit TheFounder's comments was a huge overstatement, but you guys didn't have to be a dick about it. Then you're no worse than he is.
- darwin81, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Sorry double post. Damn caffeine making my fingers twitchy!
- darwin81, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Learning Ubuntu would probably be just as easy as learning Windows for someone who has never used a computer before. Ubuntu just seems harder because you're used to Windows. And Windows isn't as easy as people claim it to be. I've seen many machines get ***** up by spyware. malware, and dumb mistakes on Windows because people don't really know computing in general.
- saturn5, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Maybe it is "Enterprise-Friendly" if all your enterprise needs is office, email, and internet. But not if it needs to use any industry standard business applications. Few of those, if any, will run on Linux.
- carpespasm, on 10/10/2007, -6/+7and i take it you call directly to microsoft when you have a problem in windows?
- jdhore1, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Umm...Yeah, personally i'd PREFER if Fox news used Windows...It gives me more of a reason to continue hating them.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1"An everyday user who wants to photoshop"..?
- darwin81, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I agree, if each distro worked things out and did everything the same then there wouldn't be a point to different distros.
- schoate09, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2That's a bad thing... It's Fox News.
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