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- lickmyback, on 10/23/2007, -1/+39Is this a joke? Of the many areas where Linux 'could get better', I don't think I would consider a single one of these seven to be anything short of well-implemented in Linux let alone areas for improvement. Security? Virtualization? Oooehr...?
- badassninja, on 10/21/2007, -0/+24This write up is full of *****.
- geminitojanus, on 10/21/2007, -1/+18I stopped reading at the first point. Almost 100% of the research involving virtualization takes place on Linux, mainly because the big corporate users of virtualization technologies will be running it on Linux to create virtual, compartmentalized Linux servers. It's hard to get any "better" than that.
- xtc46, on 10/21/2007, -0/+14weak. There are definitely places Linux can improve, but security is not in the top 7.
- sirhomer, on 10/21/2007, -1/+13Someone should write an article like this except concentrating on the Linux desktop.
- inactive, on 10/21/2007, -2/+13My thoughts exactly, especially because in most of the areas listed Linux is the best choice out there.
- UNL1M1T3D, on 10/21/2007, -0/+11That article was surprisingly weak. There are always Linux can improve, but those 7 aren't very high on my list.
- stmiller, on 10/21/2007, -1/+12I agree.
These points are some of Linux's strong points. - lemur, on 10/21/2007, -0/+9This would be a good list if it were titled "seven areas where Linux experiences little or no competition." "Could be better," is debatable. "The best we have," is more likely. There are quite a few great real time operating systems and virtualization systems out there (we're talking first class professional systems), and I want to give them their due credit, but Linux by comparison has its own special pros and cons. As for things like interrupt handling and power management... they seem like such inane and pointless items to criticize in an operating system; as far as I know these things are predominantly hardware issues.
- daftman, on 10/21/2007, -0/+9Linux can always get better even if it is better than most of its competitors in those areas he mentioned.
I do agree with what he said in terms of file system. ext3-ext4 is getting old and hopefully we can get zfs on linux. Reiserfs is not in active development at the moment.
Power management also needs to be address on the deskop end and mobile technology end. - inactive, on 10/21/2007, -0/+8Buried for being... well... wrong.
- inactive, on 10/21/2007, -0/+7I would like to see a database like filesystem for linux. ReiserFS sounds interesting. OpenBEFS... also.
- mrmacky, on 10/21/2007, -0/+6I must disagree with you on the UI's because
1.) I don't want one uber-UI, I like having the choice to switch between UI's if I want.
However, the sound system does need /a lot of work/ for all the points you listed. In fact, if there were a poll on #1 feature I'd like to see make it into my favorite distro, it'd be "better sound support" - UNL1M1T3D, on 10/21/2007, -0/+6Seems like it's getting to the point where people are just bitching to bitch.
- wigren, on 10/21/2007, -3/+9It's also anti-open source.
- SimpleC, on 10/21/2007, -0/+5Already done
http://www.linux-mag.com/id/4174/ - mikm, on 10/21/2007, -0/+42.6.22 got a shiny new wireless stack that includes WPA. (Of course, support for the new stack still needs to be implemented in the drivers). Until then, just use NetworkMaanger. I've yet to have any significant problems with it.
- fusama, on 10/21/2007, -1/+5Just because other OS's do a comparatively bad job on many of these things doesn't mean Linux cannot improve over what it has now.
- gridbread, on 10/21/2007, -0/+4Linux is free, and it works amazing, usually better than it's proprietary counterparts.
I don't know what the problem is with all you proprietary users, it wasn't forced down your throat (unlike most proprietary ones through vendors) and it's always available for you.
I understand how this fanboy thing gets started whenever you 'invest' into any particular thing, you pick a side and the other thing that also has a price tag is on the opposite side, but come on, linux is the neutral party, it's free for everyone. - deadbaby, on 10/21/2007, -1/+5I stopped reading after item #1, Virtualization. Linux has Vmware Player & Vmware Server. What more do you need? Maybe Xen? Which, by the way, is completely impossible to implement on closed source Windows. Linux is the best virtualization platform out there.
- krazedkaoz, on 10/21/2007, -1/+5Better game support.
- inactive, on 10/21/2007, -0/+3I just finished playing around with Portal and not I'm about to play ETQW. Looking forward to UT3 in November.
But I do agree, the games that do work under Linux are rare cases but they are some of the better ones, and source engine game should work (HL2, CS:S, TF2).
Hopefully Wine will improve quite a lot, also virtualization technologies could help. Why make windows layers when you can emulate the OS and use a DirectX>OpenGL Wrapper or even better allow MS driectX direct access to the video card. Well I guess there are good reasons for the reimplementation even if the virtualization did work. - lysdexia, on 10/21/2007, -0/+3My Grand-father likes to sit in front of the TV in his vest, scratching his balls, drinking beer and cussing at the flow of images.
He offers free advice for everyone. - GMorgan, on 10/21/2007, -0/+3KVM, KQemu, Virtual Box.
- Buelldozer, on 10/21/2007, -0/+3Ehh? I've been using WPA on my laptop since Kubuntu 6.10!
- ajbriggs, on 10/21/2007, -3/+6Did you hear they started making a list for "Windows Vista Where It Could Get Better". However they gave this up as a bad job as they realized it would take years and they wouldn't do nothing about it anyway, still producing the same crap and robbing the public because 'we're so scared of change'. Bring on Google OS!
- jhuebel, on 10/21/2007, -0/+3Not an anti-Linux article per se. I agree wireless is still a weak point for Linux, though.
My only other comment regarding your post is... were you drunk when you wrote it? Because it's a rant. - MrTea, on 10/21/2007, -0/+2Actually, the media engines like xine and gstreamer are just high level bindings to the media (audio, video, etc) themselves. Nothing is stopping anybody from sending the data directly to the device.
Perhaps you ought to complain about something more specific like the flash plugin or alsa. - cfuse, on 10/21/2007, -1/+31) Games
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7) Games - ShogunWarPig, on 10/21/2007, -1/+3Everything can be improved and the great thing about linux is the fact that it will improve.
- jhuebel, on 10/21/2007, -0/+2You aren't the "average user" that Linux needs to work on targetting, though. So having a choice to switch between UI's isn't usually a consideration. User's need a UI that is simple but powerful. I think KDE is powerful, but tends to be inconsistent in some areas of usability. Gnome is very simple, but I think it hides too much from the user, dumbing down the interface unneccessarily. I believe KDE4 is a step in the right direction, personally. I can't wait for that to go stable.
- schestowitz, on 10/21/2007, -6/+8Hmmm.. an article on Linux deficiencies from a friend of Darl McBride (Charles Babcock ). Always be careful when you read DisinformationWeek. They were caught before.
- inactive, on 10/21/2007, -0/+2Doesn't that fact that he prefers Linux with broken wifi over Windows with it working say something?
Next time he will know to buy Linux compatible hardware and won't have any problems, and if it really is an issue for him now he can get a WIFI PCMCIA card or USB dongle, there fairly cheap and the only problem is a little bit sticking out the side (its much less on a pcmcia card).
Chances are his WiFi will get fixed in a while anyway, for Ubuntu Gutsy has improved WiFi support over Feisty which had much better Wifi over previous versions. The Linux kernel added a new WiFi stack too.
Secondly it is just a particular case (even if a commonly talked about one), personally I have much better success getting hardware to run under Linux than Windows, trying to install Windows on this box is impossible there are SATA drivers I need to download and put on a floppy before the installer will even run (lucky I actually have a floppy drive, my parents didn't and I had to move one across temporally), 50mb for GeForce driver, another 50mb for nForce and on top of that the NIC needs drivers so I can't download the other 2 drivers from within Windows. (In addition to drivers there is a 230mb SP, numerous updates that I don't bother with thanks to MS spyware, Firefox, Antivirus.
I got a new mouse a few days ago, in theory I should just plug it in right? its just a mouse after all. Well that worked under Linux. Windows however removed all the drivers for USB input mouse and keyboard, it then popped up a oh so helpful dialog box, which I couldn't click on or press any keys. Rebooting didn't help, I got a ps2 keyboard and pressed enter on that. Windows then got stuck in a loop installing HID USB keyboard drivers, i installed about 10 before I just held down ESC until it went away. - GMorgan, on 10/21/2007, -0/+2???
NetworkManager is just a nice management system. It doesn't override any underlying deficiency in the wireless stack. Ubuntu and Fedora have used the new stack for months now and have WPA for my card. - Gavagai80, on 10/21/2007, -0/+2Apparently readers are incapable of grasping that "could get better" means a prediction of what's likely to improve, not a recipe for what needs urgent work. If any of you learn to read and avoid being hyperdefensive you'll find it's a solid and interesting articles about the major areas of current activity in the kernel. Not every article is about comparing linux to windows.
Just by reading the first paragraph you should be able to observe that it's talking about a road map from an observational rather than prescriptive point of view, based on the author's observations of what kernel developers are up to. - BOFH2, on 10/21/2007, -3/+41. user elitism (some of the noobs)(same with mac)
- defconoi, on 10/23/2007, -0/+1bury this, these are indeed the strong points in linux... wtf..
- cwestpha, on 10/21/2007, -5/+6I think Linux needs the most work on the UI and sound systems. UI under linux is awful. KDE is powerful, but its overly complicated and bloated with many crappy Kapps (ie just use firefox or Pidgin). Gnome is simple but trying to make it do things how you want to is not possible. And all of the other GUIs out there just aren't well supported. There needs to stop being competition between all of these groups and they need to just come together and make one system that works well and both can agree on. Keep It Simple Stupid, and let the user build up the UI from that simple base to what they need.
The other thing I hate is the sound systems. Applications hijack them so you cant always be playing a game and listening to music, or using Vzue to get a HD trailer and watch a youtube video. Then there are the sound artifacts, wide range in audio quality, and sound level oddities. - GMorgan, on 10/21/2007, -1/+2There aren't enough of 'What Linux must do to win on the desktop' articles about.
- LudoA, on 10/21/2007, -0/+1What do you think SELinux is? Where do you think its code resides?
- OneAndOnlySnob, on 10/21/2007, -1/+2Wow... wrong in every single way.
- inactive, on 10/21/2007, -2/+3BRAIN ASPLODE
- monikerd, on 10/21/2007, -0/+1pretty weak article. These are all kernel features which is fine since it says "linux" in the topic. but all those comments about apps are irrelevant. The things they list "could get better" but none are so severely lacking that they are showstopping in most situations.
Many are also personal opinions, for example point 3. You can't just allow any patch even if it does one thing really well into the kernel. Title should probably say "things i would do different" or "things that could have been different" - Monkeywithacold, on 10/25/2007, -2/+2For some reason I thought Linux was generally better than Windows for power management...No?
That was one of the main reasons I was going to dual boot with Ubuntu when I get a laptop. - texnofobix, on 10/21/2007, -1/+1how about wpa_supplicant?
- googeling, on 10/21/2007, -4/+4More Than Seven Areas Where Windows Could Get Better
- GMorgan, on 10/21/2007, -3/+3Ext3 is getting old? Compared to what? NTFS?
ZFS is nice but I think I'll be sticking to the tried and tested for a long time even if we do reimplement ZFS in Linux. - Geaugan, on 10/21/2007, -2/+2Why bother posting if you won't give any examples?
- pierre, on 10/21/2007, -2/+2ok....everything. gimp sucks, inkscape sucks, komposer sucks..... tried 5 diff ftp apps....all suck. the software in general is fragmented and low quality. i am not a linux hater, i want it to succeed. i keep trying it about every 6-12 months hoping to see more improvements and am still disappointed. linux guys just dont get it, until there are quality apps for mainstream users to use, linux will never succeed on the desktop. other than with the uber-geek crowd, etc. the OS itself. (ubuntu as example) is looking real good, much improved, but the apps out there.... when you are used to very polished, user friendly apps and then you try linux apps, its like night and day.... now all the linux dudes will digg me down, but im just saying what one average user has experienced with linux. instead of getting pissed and writing back negative comments, just take it as information and use it.... this is how non linux people see your platform. just being honest.
- Monkeywithacold, on 10/20/2007, -0/+0Haha, yeah I just read the heading, then skipped all the technical babble.
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