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- harlowsmonkeys, on 01/24/2008, -0/+15The howtoforge.com article is about how to set up a simple, Ubuntu-based home file server. The ubuntuhomeserver.org site you link to is about some people planning on producing at some time in the future an Ubuntu distribution aimed at home servers.
- TUNAF1SH, on 01/24/2008, -3/+11Why not just use ClarkConnect or FreeNAS and have a webgui to control it all? I know it says in the first sentence FreeNAS doesn't support NTFS but I don't see why that should be a deciding factor when dealing with Linux anyway.
- mark076h, on 01/24/2008, -1/+9good stuff, i just built a ubuntu server a few weeks ago, samba can be a little bit tricky but once you get the hang of it ubuntu is a great choice for a cheap home file/media server.
- flatfish, on 01/24/2008, -0/+7The howtoforge.com article is a very good good one and perfect timing for me because I am going to be setting up a home server, so why not try Ubuntu? Maybe it's been posted before, I don't know, but it was perfect timing for me. Dugg for being an informative, at least to me, article.
- jues, on 01/24/2008, -1/+8Why is this lad getting dugg down? Only the Server has to read the internal disc so it can be formatted in whatever filesystem you like - personally, I would stick to tried and tested EXT-3 than using NTFS-3g.
- wiresjr, on 01/24/2008, -0/+5Generally good, although the author is wrong about needing to create a root account (first step on page 3)
If you read the man pages for sudo you'll see that "sudo -s" will give you root access without needing to set a password, thereby without having 'enabled' the account. - baronvonrolo, on 01/24/2008, -0/+5I know I'll probably get a kicking for this, but why would you want the filesystem formatted in NTFS??
Surely something like UFS would be a little more suitable, purely for the larger filesize support if nothing else. - fraggle35, on 01/24/2008, -0/+4The easiest way to set up a home server would be to download FreeNAS, very easy to set up and a hell of a lot smaller.
- Icetype, on 01/24/2008, -0/+4You need files larger than 16TB?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS#Limitations - Foosinho, on 01/24/2008, -1/+5No kidding. Use some native Linux filesystem and FreeNAS. Simple, easy, reliable. No installation necessary either; just a floppy drive to store configuration files, and a bootable CD drive.
The file system is hidden behind SMB anyway!
Different strokes for different folks, I guess, but having both a big CentOS file server, and a FreeNAS file server, I know exactly which direction I'll be going in for future NAS. And it's the idiot-proof FreeNAS. - capecodcarl, on 01/24/2008, -0/+4Just to clarify, FreeNAS is *not* based on Linux, it is a stripped down FreeBSD 6.x similar to the pfSense and m0n0wall firewall projects and you'll notice the interface is very similar. Still, it certainly doesn't matter what the backend drives are formatted with since you're going to be communicating with the NAS via network protocols like CIFS or NFS anyway.
- Icecream, on 01/24/2008, -0/+4Getting a NAS costs money, This involves using old computer and old unused hard Drives, perhaps the main point of the article.
- TastySheriff, on 01/24/2008, -0/+3Glad you didn't (just dissin' your spellin')
- sensia3, on 01/24/2008, -0/+3If you get 100mps then there si something wrong, practically you will never see such an transfer rate.
- inactive, on 01/24/2008, -1/+4Quit getting Ubuntu and Linux mixed up.
- cardyology, on 01/24/2008, -1/+4I currently use XPPro with a shared folder in the root of a 1TiB RAID0.
Possibly not the most efficient setup but a simple & effective way of centralising my Music/vids/Docs etc...
I might give this a try... - truck87bp, on 01/24/2008, -0/+2He's probably using a USB 1.0 aux drive...LOL
- Smoozle, on 01/24/2008, -1/+3It is SMB (Samba) server. It should be perfectly accessible from Mac OS X machines. They are stressing Windows compatibility only to show the tutorial is not just for Linux nerds.
- isaaccp, on 01/24/2008, -0/+2Another good option for this (and more featureful) is eBox: http://www.howtoforge.com/debian_ebox , it has just been ported to Ubuntu.
- reginaldino, on 01/24/2008, -0/+2i hear you. you don't need ubuntu for a server or even a small file server like here. totally unnecesary
- asubigsaxy, on 01/24/2008, -0/+2so glad Ubuntu is up there in the eyes of MS
- nobeastsofierce, on 01/24/2008, -1/+3Nor is GIMP synonymous with photoshop, the word has plenty of other uses too.
Anytime I see a Ububtu titled link, I always have a quick scan to digg down posts like yours. Who is saying that Ubuntu and Linux are the same?? Ubuntu is a popular distro, get over it. Or go to the Wii stories and explain to everyone how Nintendo is not synonymous with consoles.
Douche - BradMajors, on 01/24/2008, -1/+3I tried using Ubuntu with samba as a file server, but I could not get a high enough data transfer rate. With Ubuntu I got 30mps, while with Windows 2000 I am getting 100mps. (my Ethernet bandwidth limit.)
- tcpip4lyfe, on 01/24/2008, -1/+3Mac gets enough love from the fanboys on this site. It's linux's turn for a while.
- InorganicMatter, on 01/27/2008, -0/+1Talk about pointless over-complication. Just use FreeNAS and move on.
- tvanwyk, on 01/26/2008, -0/+1You know, it just occurred to me that I've never seen a comment by schestowitz that hasn't had negative diggs.
- tvanwyk, on 01/26/2008, -0/+1Hate to burst your bubble, but Macs aren't for server setups.
Tool.
Did this a couple weeks ago with Slackware 11. And I didn't use an inefficient Windows-native filesystem, because Samba can serve Linux-native file systems fine to Windows networks. Of course putting Ubuntu on the title guarantees more diggs. - baronvonrolo, on 01/24/2008, -0/+1You can say that, but have you ever tried to move a 7Gb+ file from a UFS partition to an NTFS partition??
I have. It's not pretty. - chobbney, on 01/24/2008, -3/+4http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punctuation
You fail, chump. - tvanwyk, on 01/26/2008, -0/+1It doesn't need to be NTFS. Samba can serve shares from Linux-native file systems just fine - my Samba server runs just fine off of an ext3 partition.
I'd personally much rather use reiserfs or ext3 - there's no reason to go NTFS on a setup like this, and in fact may hurt performance compared to what it would be with a modern Linux-native file system. - billinjapan, on 01/24/2008, -0/+1I am running a Ubuntu server at home with XP, Ubuntu Desktop, OS X connected with no problem. SMB is easy to connect to from any of these systems.
- inactive, on 01/24/2008, -0/+1I hardly get above 10. And it's the same on either windows or linux.
I just think networking sucks in general. I mean, how can I download 1.3 megs a second over internet, but via wired connections to my file servers, I only get 10? Something wrong with that. - kylepike, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1There is no need to have the filesystem on the linux computer as NTFS? ... you could have it as whatever you want. samba doesn't care...?
- SoulDesigner, on 01/24/2008, -0/+1You can do all the ***** in the article on much slower hardware if you use freenas, ***** installing a whole ubuntu server just for a fileserver
- kepper, on 01/24/2008, -0/+1I have data on an NTFS drive from my last Windows box that I would like to eventually get access to. So, i'm always looking for NAS that will allow me to use that. Ext-3 is excellent, so I wouldn't digg them down. And, I can also vouch for Clark Connect. It's an awesome server, including a great firewall too.
- tcpip4lyfe, on 01/24/2008, -1/+2Why not just samba with webmin if you want the gui?
- makario, on 09/03/2009, -1/+2Then use them, and leave us alone.
- zammit, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1you'll better performance with raid, which is nice during busy times at home (audio, video, large file transfer, when everyone is home from work/school all accessing @ same time... you know for those families who don't socialize with eachother lol). what about raid 10? getting 2TB of space is relatively cheap (500GB x 4)
- diecastbeatdown, on 01/24/2008, -0/+1ubuntu server is a great choice for people who know nothing about system administration. there is some tweaking to do after installation so it is not point and click.
- inactive, on 01/30/2008, -0/+1one piece of advise though on FreeNAS:
don't try to create a RAID5 array on old hardware. At least not without a hardware RAID controller. doing RAID in software takes a modern CPU coz it has lots of calculations to do. If you can live without the RAID5 and deal with RAID0/1, then FreeNAS rulez!!! Brilliant! - barkeep8, on 01/24/2008, -0/+1From the tutorial:
"For home use one user name is sufficient. In this example I will add the user family:"
I had the same issue with FreeNAS. In my home, a single user is NOT sufficient, I don't want my son stealing all my pr0n I spent so much time downloading from bittorrent...
While you can create more users and permissions, you quickly get away from the "easy" home use stuff if you need to keep your kids out of your docs cause you have to SSH and CL everything... I love the CL, but man. - masterc, on 01/24/2008, -0/+1Who the hell still has a floppy?
- godsdead, on 01/24/2008, -0/+1Mirror?
I already have a home server setup with ubuntu, i was going to wright an artical on it lol - Icetype, on 01/24/2008, -0/+1I've been there-- Linux has some really bad drivers for certain network cards. Windows will be fast, linux super slow. A lot of cheapo built-on gigabit cards are almost useless in linux. Get yourself a $20 intel 10/100/1000 nic and you'll get awesome performace in Ubuntu.
- Icetype, on 01/24/2008, -0/+1I have a stripe of two 80gb drives on my gaming box, but I wouldn't trust it for storing data. One drive dies, you lose everything. XP will let you mount a drive as a folder within another drive. Same drive-letter. This is much better for you because if one drive dies, you still have what was on the other one. Good luck finding 1 TB of free space to redo it tho.
- kylepike, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1why would you need more then 1 hard disk? You could have one drive and just partition it... you also don't need to format it as NTFS you can do whatever you want, samba doesn't care. Oh and this has nothing to do with ubuntu and windows xp, you can do this on ANY Unix system and anything that supports windows file sharing. Like a mac?
- zammit, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1i agree, but i don't think it deserves a -digg b/c of that...
i admit I haven't read the article, but if using ubuntu (target audience = gui users), why not just use something like gedit? - stix213, on 01/24/2008, -0/+1sounds like an ethernet duplex problem. You might want to check your duplex settings for your nic.
- OsiVert, on 01/24/2008, -0/+1I don't know much about unix file systems, but I imagine NTFS is used because this article is targeted for people who have a windows network going and need a cheap file server.
- zammit, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1why would you want to spend $2,000 on a computer for this task when you can do it for 1/4 of the cost (just pay for hardware)...
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