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- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -2/+77This seems more like a beryl effects show than a VM show that the title makes it out to be
- Konstantino, on 10/11/2007, -7/+58@ ablez3
Yes, because www.ubuntuvideo.com is obviously blog spam! - eqisow, on 10/11/2007, -2/+43http://mac-on-linux.sourceforge.net/
See, drake, that wasn't so hard.
There are instructions here:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacOnLinuxHowto
MoL also has their own wiki:
http://mac-on-linux.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page - RedTroll, on 11/06/2007, -3/+42Yeah, the video is all nice and cool but some info about performance/stability and software required would be even nicer and cooler.
- crazybrit, on 10/11/2007, -5/+37Spin the cube 8,000,007 times.
- stev3, on 10/11/2007, -4/+35You don't need to sound like a 11 year old. All you're doing lowering the reputation of the more mature Linux users.
If other people want to switch, they can switch. If not, that's okay too. It's they're loss, not ours. - ablez3, on 10/11/2007, -47/+76comment abuse.
***** the blog spam
here is the youtube vid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0mNWQTw0nc - emorphien, on 10/11/2007, -23/+48Have YOU seen Vista? I use Vista, Ubuntu, XP Pro and OSX and Ubuntu sure as hell isn't as trouble free as people would like to think.
Vista is as good as the rest of those 4 operating systems and in some ways better. They all have their pros and cons. - daftman, on 10/11/2007, -10/+34@drakethegreat
Wtf is wrong with digg comment lately? A bunch of dumbass ms fanboy just migrated here?
You show me a step by step instruction on how to get linux and osx running in vmware under vista and I'll show you a shorter instruction on ubuntu.
You can digg me down but I am telling the truth. - th3heretic, on 10/11/2007, -3/+27Anyone else notice the HUGE cpu usage on OSX?
- eqisow, on 10/11/2007, -2/+24Hey, would you be upset with Microsoft if you bought a wireless card that didn't support Windows? Or would you bitch at the manufacturer? Same deal.
That's what you meant btw, because I promise that if your card worked Linux would recognize the signal from the router. Wireless is a standard. - xevidentx, on 10/11/2007, -7/+29::insert linux rules comment, followed by linux sucks OSX is better, followed by windows vista is too buggy, etc.... ::
welcome to digg - FredSpeaking, on 10/11/2007, -4/+22OSX and Ubuntu in the same title... must restrain involuntary pelvic thrusts...
- mpeters13, on 10/11/2007, -2/+19lulz yes. In fact, most people have had better luck getting it to run in vm than natively. You should take the blue pill and spend some free time browsing the old forum posts.
- JesseJ, on 10/11/2007, -6/+23A live nude woman?
- lengau, on 10/11/2007, -2/+19@UKshadow - There's a company that releases a product like Parallels for Linux. I believe they call it Parallels. http://www.parallels.com/
Seriously, Parallels is great if you have the money. Otherwise, VirtualBox is also great.
QEMU with KQEMU or KVM is very nice (KVM only if you have jardware virtualization)
VMWare is slower than the others (in my experience, but I last used it about a year ago), but it's definitely one of the most compete systems. - stmiller, on 10/11/2007, -1/+16http://www.osx86project.org/
- eqisow, on 10/11/2007, -2/+16Performance is quite on-par, if you have the RAM.
- nextsteposx, on 11/06/2007, -1/+15So... how to I install OS X on Linux?
- thetaco82, on 10/11/2007, -1/+15I agree. It lost my attention pretty quickly once it turned into another "Beryl Rulz!" video.
- SEMW, on 10/11/2007, -2/+14> Linux rules!!! we(open source community) are taking over so quick, microsoft is ***** itself, hahahaha
I'm reasonably sure that the "Open Source Community", to the extent that it is a single, cohesive body (which it... isn't) would be embarrassed to have you associated with it. - UKsHaDoW, on 10/11/2007, -2/+14Just use a Linux equivalent of parallels ?
- emorphien, on 10/11/2007, -6/+18no kidding, you try to be the voice of reason and you get dugg down by the linux fanboys, OSX fanboys or Windows fanboys.
- mpeters13, on 10/11/2007, -6/+16I'm just going to say right now that ubuntu doesn't run that nicely on any machine I've used. I'm just dying to know the configuration of the machine used in this demo. Beryl/Compiz is running so beautifully in that video. I'm oozing with jealousy.
- ElbridgeGerry, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9This isn't blogspam, it's from an official Ubuntu site.
And we have a video section. - gadgetuk, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9@imustbeemo
The "host" OS is Ubuntu Linux, OS X and Windows are running within virtual machines (not sure if it's VMWare or not but that would do the job). You could triple boot but you'd obviously lose the ability to use the different systems simultaneously.
As for your system spec, double your RAM... no, triple it :) Don't forget that your CPU is 64 bit so it would be better utilised by a 64bit OS (although there are still occasional software issues). - crazybrit, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10Wha? So Beryl's developers are representative of all Linux developers? okaaaay...
For the record, Beryl is very functional. - thetaco82, on 10/11/2007, -7/+16Actually, no. I haven't seen Vista. I made the switch to open source a few months before its release and haven't had a reason to go back. Ditching Windows wasn't painless, but I enjoyed being able to geek out and learn new ways of doing things. If all goes well, Vista will be the only Microsoft OS that I haven't used.
- darthsuo, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10I'd say the OP was karma whoring, but there's no karma on digg, so he's just a retard.
- borninda818, on 10/11/2007, -6/+15showoff...
- daftman, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9@Beatmiser
As I recalled, when Nvidia didn't work on Vista a bunch of rabid ms fanboy come out and said that it's nvidia's fault
So why would you blame Linux for when your wireless card didn't work on linux?
Do you buy any computer and try to put OSX on it? No you wouldn't because you can't.
So don't buy just any hardware and put ubuntu or vista on it. Buy the hardware that is recommended by the os developer.
If you have better things to do then why install ubuntu? go play games or download p0rn or something. - eqisow, on 10/11/2007, -3/+11Yes yes, of course. Beryl is flashy so the Gnome, XFCE, Fluxbox, etc devs clearly only go for flashiness. *roll eyes*
Edit: Also, I should point out that all of that beryl "glitz" is because the user set it up that way. he didn't have to. See, that's what great about Linux, flexibility. Like glitz? Great! Don't like it? That's great too! - shanelu87, on 10/11/2007, -2/+10Seems like this video is more about Ubuntu's eyecandy than XP/OSX.
- Bamborzled, on 10/11/2007, -4/+12"I honestly did not notice anything new but more glossy icons and slower FPS rates than xp"
How about the completely re-written network stack, the completely re-written audio stack that allows you to adjust the individual volume of each application, ReadyBoost, and four Wikipedia articles' worth of more new features :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_new_to_Windows_Vista
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technical_features_new_to_Windows_Vista
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_and_safety_features_new_to_Windows_Vista
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Management_features_new_to_Windows_Vista
I don't particularly like Windows, but please don't be ignorant. - fishsoda, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8live, nude, or beautiful. you may pick only two.
- daftman, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8"I agree, while Mac OS X and Ubuntu might look very pretty, XP/Vista are more productive.
That guy set up OSX and Vista on Ubuntu, so... now what?
People who like to fiddle and experiment with things use Linux, people who do work use Windows."
WTF are you on about. If you are trolling for comment go to slashdot.
I write j2ee apps on ubuntu using eclipse and/or netbeans. I write web app on ubuntu using radrails / vim
I would say ubuntu and osx is more productive because i don't stop every 10 minutes and play games. - sid0, on 10/11/2007, -7/+14OK. In a VM (at least right now) you won't get 3D accelerated graphics. So forget Aero, forget games, forget Beryl (if you have the grand plan of Linux in Linux). If you really ARE interested in Linux and want to move from Windows you should do a dual-boot.
Performance is also a bit slower than when not running in a VM (which is understandable). - IMustBeEmo, on 10/11/2007, -3/+10Ok guys I have a few questions on this. I am about to get a new computer and I was going to take that opportunity to start using Linux.
First, are Mac OSX and Windows running virtually like with VMWare? Or is this triple-booting? Which is better?
Second, what kind of specs can you expect to run these things at? It looks like it would use an incredible amount of resources. I am getting an X2 4000+, 1GB RAM, and a 7900 GS (I think it's a GS). Would I at least be able run virtual Windows/dual boot with Windows? - ArthurSucks, on 10/11/2007, -3/+9"doesn't running a non-open source OS on top of linux defeat the purpose?"
Only if you are running a Linux system for political reasons. Ubuntu is not pure FOSS (Debian is better for that), it's already got a ton of proprietary code and drivers in it. A lot of us use Linux because we like having control of our machines. It's about functionality and having the tools to do what we want and need. - cvrefugee, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7You forgot to mention obligatory wobbly windows effect when making a screencast.
- cdmarcus, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7@drakethegreat: At least with Windows XP it was a simple download from http://www.virtualbox.org and installing the .deb (double clicking on it), creating a new VM with the GUI interface, putting the XP CD in, and starting it. From there it was like any normal Windows installation.
- SEMW, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6> You show me a step by step instruction on how to get linux and osx running in vmware under vista and I'll show you a shorter instruction on ubuntu.
Ummm... No. VMWare is VMWare. There's nothing fundamentally different about running a VM on VMWare with Linux as the host OS as compared to with Windows or Mac OS as the host OS. - Beatmiser, on 10/11/2007, -10/+16Or I could just use my non-buggy, non-crashing XP Professional which believe it or not loads a hell of a lot faster than Ubuntu when I tried to install it on this machine- not to mention that XP also recognizes my wireless router- because some of us have better things to do than try and figure out f*ing NDISWrapper.
- STKD, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7There's such a thing as a Media Access Control OS?
(Or "It's Mac not MAC", whichever you prefer).
Duel booting? Sounds like quite a fight. - daftman, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5@avalontor
It does matter because it makes you look like a fool.
Instead of solving the solution by buying hardware that is compatible for the os, you just whine and bitch about the developers.
If you don't want to use linux fine! Nobody here is asking you to. But don't blame the developers for your incompetence for not buying the right hardware.
It's very much like you buying a ps3 and blame xbox360 games developers for not making it work on your ps3.
A good worker never blame his tool. - ScottMaximus1, on 10/11/2007, -15/+20Insane system requirements?
"1 GHz 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor
512 MB of system memory
20 GB hard drive with at least 15 GB of available space
Support for DirectX 9 graphics and 32 MB of graphics memory
DVD-ROM drive
Audio Output
Internet access (fees may apply"
Sounds like any computer made in the last...4 years. - crazybrit, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7So if it wouldn't run natively on my AMD Athlon XP 3000+, it might run in a VM?
- Athens101, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5@zmigliozzi
Amen! Been running VMWare since... 1998 under Linux. - SEMW, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6> Wow, now everyone can enjoy vista's insane system requirements and lame ass GUI eye candy, way to go!
Actually no; TFA was talking about running it in a Virtual Machine on VMWare; thus, no hardware accellerated GUI (since VMWare only emulates basic integrated graphics) so Aero.
> Do you get the WOW factor with *those requirements
Assuming that by "the WOW factor" you're talking about the DWM (Aero Glass etc.), the key factor is a DirectX 9 supporting GPU (GeForce FX 5200 or later, Radeon 9500 or later, Intel GMA 950 or later).
> But why would the OS need 15GB? I am sure this doesn't include ms-office, IIS, VS 2005, etc
No to Office & VS, but yes to IIS which is included in the business versions. No, it doesn't take up 15GB; it takes up 5 to 7 GB, but I assume MS put the system reqs at 15GB to stop people installing it on a 7GB HD and suing MS because "My Vista wouldn't let me save my stuff".
> with those high of requirements and vista STILL uses >50% cpu resources, at idle...
Source or it doesn't happen. Which it... doesn't. Most sources put CPU usage at 1-2% with Aero on; slightly lower than XP (2-3%) due to the desktop being composited by the graphics card rather than the CPU. - Thargok, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Remote machines are too slow for the video. However, knowing that iTunes is an old version it is easy to assume that it is an illegal pirate copy, as it would have to be if not remote.
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