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- weijie90, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9@CLIFosakaJAPAN
enough. stop it. do you gain pleasure in impersonating CLIFFosakaJAPAN and getting dugg down? - UnixSkunk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I originally purchased an N770, and I consider it to be the best thing since sliced bread. Unfortunately, they got rid of one of the things I liked most, which was the slide-over case. Armor plating. I could carry it anywhere, and it would stay safe! If I purchased the 800, I'd be terrified of destroying the LCD. I have to say, it has one of the clearest displays I've ever seen....Beautiful.
- GeneralAntilles, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5As a release-date adopter of the 770 and N800 I can say that the UI doesn't hamper my usage of the machine. It's improved a lot over the 770 (especially in the responsiveness area). Applications can be switched into a fullscreen mode with one of the buttons at the top which will get ride of the side- and top-bars, plus there's a number of 3rd party themes available (NuvoTheme being the best) that reduce the size of the top-bar and decrease the font size by a large amount (for those of you that aren't blind as bats, we're talking about ~250dpi here). The primary reason you would want to use this is for desktop-like internet browsing in your pocket, which it does very well.
As for GPS, there's a product out (freeware) called MaemoMapper: http://gnuite.com:8080/nokia770/maemo-mapper/ that uses Google Local/Earth map data to provide GPS navigation. You download and cache the map data and route information at home and it'll use a bluetooth GPS to navigate you around (or you could download it in the car if you have an internet-capable bluetooth phone). I'd recommend the i-blue 737 ($80 or so shipped off Amazon for US customers) for best compatibility and signal.
For anyone who is interested, I'd recommend checking out the forums here: http://www.internettablettalk.com and the application list (along with a free VMware developer environment for the code-savy among you) over here http://maemo.org. - Eugenia, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Charbax, you obviously don't know what you are talking about. The browser loads in 3 seconds, not 20. And WiFi/BT are ON when the machine is in standby so you never lose a VoIP or IM message. It stays ON with WiFI ON for about 5-6 days. As for HSDPA support, while this is not a bad idea, you should remember that Nokia doesn't want this product competing with their phones -- the N800 is here to complement their phone line by connecting to the internet via their phone's Bluetooth modem ability, not compete.
- signal15, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Hah, I think 2 or 3 years ago, many of us would have drooled over this with no thought to the interface. Apple and the Beryl project for linux are ruining it for companies with ugly interfaces. :)
I started using OSX as my primary machine, and now I actually care about how pretty the GUI is. Is vanity really so bad though? - 4Prophecy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8Correction: Get blent.
- vincnetas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Use any Bluetooth enabled GPS receiver.
http://images.google.lt/images?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=Zux&q=bluetooth%20gps&btnG=Search&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi - Zique, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Nokia has always had pretty good UI's, but this one doesn't look very sleek. I'm thinking of buying one too, but not without testing it first.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3rtfa
The software has seen an upgrade too, including Opera that now has Macromedia Flash support. Unfortunately, both YouTube's and Google's Flash videos are unwatchable because of the lower CPU power, and this is really a shame, - Eugenia, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yes, we were not all blessed to be born in US. Get over it. What matters is the juice of the article.
- Eugenia, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yes, each news item has a "keep for later" checkbox.
- GeneralAntilles, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Flash 7 isn't particularly well optimized, hopefully we'll see Flash 9 being ported at some point in the near future (since it just hit Linux). Further optimizations of the hardware code will probably see some improvement over the next few months (took them a while to get the 770 up to speed).
- KaneElson, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Errm it doesn't support any mobile phone technologies (GSM/CDMA/UMTS).
- zetsurin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Now if only Nokia support would be trained up to know this isn't a cellphone (770 customers who needed to deal with them will understand what I mean).
- OrangeTide, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I think generally I like the N770 better than the N800.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Geekbrief #123 is all about the N800:
http://geekbriefwp.podshow.com/gbtv-0123-geekbrieftv - GeneralAntilles, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Lower-rez, closed source, no 3rd party development, more expensive. Why?
They're two different devices, anyway. iPhone for making calls. Nokia for browsing the web with a pocket-sized device. - cuoops, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I want this - http://www.gd-computing.com/index.cfm?locale=en_US&page=Products:Duo-Touch
- KaneElson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@signal15
It's not even the fact it is pretty ugly that is bad, it's my first point about big titlebars, I mean the desktop I am on atm has smaller title bars and that has a 20" 1680x1050 so there is plenty of space to waste but when you have a mobile device with limited screen real estate you don't want most of it taken up with a huge bar down the left and then big title bars on your windows. - GeneralAntilles, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Wifi and Bluetooth only.
- GeneralAntilles, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's a 4.13" screen at 800x480, you can view pretty much anything you want easily and it makes a FANTASTIC ebook reader.
- mjm.basher, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0As a former 770 user I was always frustrated by the lack of offline RSS (Bloglines770 never worked correctly). Any word on the N800's built-in reader supporting offline mode?
- schestowitz, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4Here'e a review that was published a fortnight ago. I find it rather informative too.
Nokia N800 Internet Tablet First Thoughts Review
http://www.tabletpcreview.com/default.asp?newsID=698 - Justin6512, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1ummm just buy an iPhone when they come out!
- deadbaby, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I'm seriously considering one of these but I have a few concerns about the UI (it looks really bad?) I'd love to get my hands on one before plunking down $400. Still I think its got potential. I'll probably get one when they release the GPS addon in the US. I wanted to hold out for an iPhone but my work is never going to switch to Cingular and I'm too cheap to pay for my own cell service so.. there ya have it.
- mjm.basher, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Try marking Digg's RSS feed for offline viewing one item at a time before a long trip. Not to mention all of the other feeds on the device. It baffles me that such a simple feature has been left out of an 'internet' tablet. Way to go Nokia.
- jonashwing, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1The article has some good info on the N800 but it was a pain to read because it was terribly written. Its full of typos and grammar errors.
- Charbax, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Nokia have a lot of talent in making this product, and the N series is really becomming pocket computers.
Watch my video of the N800, where I interview the product manager at CES: http://ces2007.video-blog.eu/nokia-n800/
I think it lacks a hard disk drive, built-in HSDPA, full DivX at DVD resolution playback, video recording at VGA resolution and a bit more. Also this N800 has a Linux OS that takes 40 seconds to boot-up, a browser which takes about 20 seconds to open on top of that. And the Wi-Fi and HSDPA chips should keep running and pinging while the rest of the device is sleeping, so that one should be able to get VOIP, IM, RSS, Email and more incomming messages or calls and the device should be able to wake-up from sleep mode and ring. Also this device, even though it is already very compact, it should be even more compact, but should have slim buttons on each side of the screen for gaming. - motang, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1This looks pretty cool, and at Nokia's website it has some flash demo of how you would use the Internet Table.
http://www.nokiausa.com/N800 - ArrowApollo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Well this sucks. I just got a 770 for my birthday in December. I want youtube!. Maybe I could try the warranty if it' still good.
- KaneElson, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Yeah one of the first things I noticed was the huge title bars and the lame 3d shading, it looks like a stripped down KDE. It really doesn't look like it is designed for a mobile platform....
- KaneElson, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0It's actually a good screen size but it has other downfalls like the 13 software packages so far ....
- Charbax, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1OK, it was thus probably slow on the model I Tested at CES, possibly it didn't have the latest firmware or something. I had tested booting up the OS, and it took more than 30 seconds, and after that it took bout 20 seconds to get into the Browser. But hey, let me have a real commercial model and try, and booting up the device I guess is no necessary if it stays standby for several days. Though One might want to change the battery once in a while, and that requires the 30+ second bootup + 20 second browser bootup each time..?
Are you sure Wi-Fi and Bluetooth stays ON for 5-6 days on the battery?
I assume if OSnews have tested Wi-Fi is ON during stand-by for 5-6 days, that they have tried waking the device up doing VOIP, IM, Email or other features where the device would be configured to wake-up from Standby upon certain incomming frames.
I understand Nokia doesn't want to provide a device that is too powerfull, in terms of keeping their Telecom partners happy, in the way that they can sell more hardware, bind more customers on long contracts, and sell more voice and SMS for as long as they can, even with HSDPA and Fon hotspot networks becomming available all over cities. - weijie90, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2It would be such a shame if that guy really tried to blend it.
- barbarianlee, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0It looks more like a digital camera . And I don't think
,with such a limited screen size, it makes much differences - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -9/+3Get bent.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+0yeah yeah like you will use those features beside the feature of a cellphone : to call a friend from outside
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1The thing looks like a brick.
- Dolomite, on 10/12/2007, -18/+3But, will it blend?
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