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- shethinkmefunny, on 10/05/2008, -0/+4Maybe it's just me, but every Fedora install I've tried so far, 7 through 9, has given me this feeling that it's actively trying to prevent me from doing whatever it is I want to do. The package manager always fails to resolve dependencies and craps out, proprietary drivers seem far more likely to hose X, even when installed from Livna, the system is generally slower and while visually stunning, there's a marked lack of spit and polish.
I always give Fedora another try with each new release, and every time I'm left with a bad taste in my mouth yet again. If they were clearer about proprietary codecs, made proprietary drivers more stable, fixed their package management issues (apt4rpm maybe) and worked on boosting performance, Fedora could really be an exciting distro. As of now all it has going for it is gorgeous splash screens. - shethinkmefunny, on 10/05/2008, -0/+2I'd try CentOS if you're curious about RHEL. Everything I've read indicates it's RHEL without the branding/logos and no paid support.
With Fedora being the "bleeding edge" distro of the Red Hat family, one can only hope that the problems Fedora has are limited to Fedora. Still... they can take Debian away from me when they pry it from my cold dead hands.
Fedora aside, the last Red Hat product I tried was Red Hat 6.1, back in '99 or '00 or thereabouts. It was such a frustrating experience, and the forums were so rude and unwilling to help that it soured me on Linux altogether for 6 years. - inactive, on 10/05/2008, -0/+2God. I've been basically spending the last two hours installing packages on Fedora. What a completely broken, miserable excuse for a package manager. yum has got to be the slowest, most RAM-devouring piece of ***** I've ever used, and the frontend locks up so much, it's gotten to the point where I just install everything through Webmin. Even when the damn thing finally does unlock, it's just so a dialog box can appear telling you that you aren't using the _exact_ version required of some obscure library, then you realize that you've just been ***** by some big update that broke compatibility with 50% of the applications in the repository.
You can always compile from source, but of course, fedora has gone out of their way to make the most inane, confusing source tree ever conceived. After all, why place some important source files in the directory that 99% of other distros place them, when you can create a whole new directory and put them there! Just try compiling a module against Fedora's kernel, I dare you. Even if you're experienced with compiling kernel modules, you'll be utterly confused on how fedora expects to do it. Oh and compiling normal userland apps is just as difficult due to the fact that gtk2-devel, for instance, is a _different version_ than the gtk2 binary. Who in the name of christ maintains this *****? Do they just not care?
As far as proprietary drivers and codecs go...please don't even get me started. You may just make me throw my laptop out the window.
I want to get a RHCE cert in the future. Please tell me that RHEL is nothing like this piece of *****. - shethinkmefunny, on 10/05/2008, -1/+2The DVD includes both KDE and Gnome, as well as Xfce and a whole mess of additional applications. It doesn't necessarily install all of them at once, they're just available to you at install.
If you know which DE you want, and don't mind a standard helping of applications, a live CD is a better choice for you than the DVD. If you'll be installing it on several machines, each with different needs, the DVD may be preferrable.
the_blob, instead of insulting kd420, why couldn't you have politely explained the DVD? Don't be a douche. Nobody likes a douche. - kd420, on 10/05/2008, -1/+2Why does it need a DVD to install, is there that much more stuff in it? I have a DVD drive and everything, but the very fact that they can't/don't keep the ISO under 700mb makes me wary of it being bloated.
- the_blob, on 10/05/2008, -1/+1there's a live cd check the downloads section before saying stupid things.
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