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- mtg101, on 03/09/2009, -6/+70Here here! Not that I don't have issues with Ubuntu, it's just that none of those nine features were in the same universe as what I need from Ubuntu.
- HamNCheese, on 03/09/2009, -11/+501) Get rid of the doodoo brown
- benburned, on 03/09/2009, -5/+25I may just be me, but half of the things on that list seem utterly pointless.
- deadbaby, on 03/09/2009, -11/+29Reading this response makes me ashamed to be a Linux user. Not all the original suggestions were great but these are the types of users Linux needs to attract since obviously they do have an interest in the platform. Instead, the Rush Limbaugh's of the LInux world have to be snobby elitists about it and drive them away. Good work.
- hamobu, on 03/09/2009, -2/+18On changing background, back in the late nineties there I used I used red Hat (or maybe it was SuSe), and there were changing backgrounds back then. The one that I like was the picture of earth that would rotate based on the actual earth rotation and you can see where the sun was rising, where it was setting, etc. You also had those roaches that would run arround your desktop and hide under the windows.
- meatstick, on 03/09/2009, -5/+18***** people with different needs or opinions in what I want in a OS!
- Admonitor, on 03/09/2009, -2/+14This article sums up why people stereotypes exist for the average Linux user..
The first article wasn't exactly great, but this was hardly necessary anyway. - xaeon, on 03/09/2009, -1/+12Did we really need a blog post to reiterate the points made in the digg comments? It was a bad article admittedly, but have we reached a point where we have to blog about how stupid something was that we read on another blog and then submit that to digg too? Is this the calibre of digg content now?
I think I might blog about your blog blogging about another blog and submit it to digg. - dotRoot, on 03/09/2009, -0/+9I think one of the biggest problems with the modern Linux distribution and Windows is that if your Linux distro. is set up in a sort of way by default that the user doesn't like, the user doesn't actually realize that you can essentially customize the desktop in just about any Windows Manager very easily. They just aren't used to that freedom.
- HamNCheese, on 03/09/2009, -4/+12Really....Nice troll.
- gavintlgold, on 03/10/2009, -0/+8@InorganicMatter: They finally said they would move away from that whole range. Before they've only said maybe orange and black instead of brown. Now, as far as it sounds, they are considering something completely different. I sure hope that's the case.
- ryanize, on 03/09/2009, -2/+10I think he could have presented his point a little nicer, but I have to agree. I have installed Ubuntu and played around but installing software that isn't available though the Package Manager is confusing at best and did not result in the software I wanted to be installed.
And the terminal...I agree....I want a GUI so I don't have to learn these confusing terminal commands. I just want to click on things.
Call me a troll, dig me down, this is just my personal opinions. - SteveMax, on 03/10/2009, -0/+8xplanet. That's my current KDE desktop, with real-time cloud overlay.
- moppsy, on 03/09/2009, -0/+8Careful there skippy.
Linux is just the kernel.
Every Linux distribution is an operating system. - inactive, on 03/10/2009, -0/+7M-Audio works fine. Just buy parts from cooperative vendors.
- 0tis, on 03/10/2009, -0/+7I just think it seems a little weird that he would expect that as a default feature. I mean, who cares? One of the reasons I love Ubuntu is it comes without all that bloat (but with the option to install it!)
- Dojjah, on 03/09/2009, -1/+8That is a pretty lazy rant you typed up there, probably in a matter of minutes. You did no research to provide actual links, or tutorials for how to do any of these things. Pretty much your response to all the suggestions made in the previous article was "Who cares? I don't want/need these features myself so...who cares?"
I disagreed with the previous article, knowing that many of the things for-mentioned could be done, but it was much more well written then this whine. - PsychoBrat, on 03/10/2009, -0/+6I just had a sarcasm.
- Cl1mh4224rd, on 03/09/2009, -5/+11Meh. I'm not a Linux user, per se. I've *used* various distributions of Linux over the years and currently have Ubuntu 8.10 installed alongside XP and Vista Ultimate, but I don't use it regularly.
That said, this guy's response to Feature #6 is complete ***** on two different levels:
> "Um, unlike certain Redmond-based OS’s I can think of, we Ubuntu users have complete control over how our taskbars look. If you don’t like the arrangement of the icons, delete some, add some or move some."
1) If he had been paying any attention at all, he would have realized the original author was referring to the *Notification Area*, not the rest of the panel.
2) You can actually add shortcut icons to, and rearrange those icons on, the Windows taskbar. You're not even limited to the Quick Launch toolbar; you can add any arbitrary folder to the taskbar (right-click on taskbar -> Toolbars -> New Toolbar...).
His response to Feature #7 is pretty weird, too...
> "If Ubuntu came pre-installed with a media center, I’d have a fit, and then I’d remove it."
I guess it's a good thing he actually wants all the stuff that already comes preinstalled, otherwise he might really flip out if he, say, preferred AbiWord to OpenOffice.org Writer... - inactive, on 03/09/2009, -1/+7You can probably configure that anyway.
- Cl1mh4224rd, on 03/10/2009, -0/+6srg13 wrote:
> "The thing is that a media centre is really something that very few people actually use, so it's pointless to have it there by default..."
That's a fair point, but how many people actually use VoIP? Ekiga is installed by default... - xaeon, on 03/09/2009, -2/+8It's time for your 11 o'clock feed.
- Atsumori, on 03/09/2009, -1/+7they are
- dajxd, on 03/09/2009, -0/+6How about some firewire audio support? Until Digidesign releases some drivers or ffado stops being a pain a lot of people are out of luck.
- facepalmjpg, on 03/09/2009, -1/+6It did occur to me when I read the original article that there would be a large amount of people reading it at the same time with a look of shocked horror on their face as if somebody had just kicked their dog.
- gavintlgold, on 03/10/2009, -0/+5This is what I would love to see: TAGGED FILE MANAGEMENT rather than heirarchial. It would function just like the standard files and folders method, only you would start with all tags and narrow it down, rather than start with the most general folder and work down.
For example, you have a short story about a cat. Since you're a really neat person, you want to put it both in your cat folder and your essay folder. The best way to do this with the current system is to put a shortcut/alias/link in one of the folders. But this is horrible.
Enter tagged file management: You can do whatever you want! Choose cats first and find essays within it, or vice versa. It really gives you freedom to organize stuff much more easily. - zeebo, on 03/09/2009, -0/+4I still think that having little functional emblems for showing space left on a mounted device would be handy, I always liked that feature of BeOS. But yeah, using it for the trash, or for CDs would be a little pointless.
I do still wish Gnome would do more with emblems. I miss some of the old themes where the emblems would appear in the bottom left corner of the icon itself, rather than outside of the bounds of the icon on the top right. It made the emblems seem a more natural part of the icon itself, and as a result, I used them way more back then than I do now. - 2of8, on 03/10/2009, -1/+6yo dawg..
- CptnEvilStomper, on 03/09/2009, -2/+7The original English post isn't nearly as bad, especially considering that the original author is just brainstorming ideas about possible UI changes. I still can't imagine ever using most of them, though. I do like the file hierarchy plugin, but I'm not sure how they would implement it. In OS X you could just write a QuickLook plugin for folders - there's actually already one that shows the contents of the folder and I'm sure it would be easy to add a "Show Folder Hierarchy" button. I think it would be a little more complicated in Ubuntu, though. Maybe someone could write a Nautilus plugin with a contextual menu item for it? Or better yet, maybe we could get an open-source implementation (or at least imitation) of QuickLook. That's really the biggest thing I miss going between OS X and Ubuntu.
- Kretien, on 03/09/2009, -0/+51.) .deb
2.) You don't need the terminal. - InorganicMatter, on 03/09/2009, -4/+9Sure, like they were getting rid of it in Hardy, and Intrepid, and Jaunty...
- geardosdotnet, on 03/10/2009, -0/+5from the article:
"that guy failed miserably in doing his homework before posting that,";
If you have to do homework to find features then they aren't very good features! - yunus, on 03/10/2009, -0/+4The terminal must stay but make it not a requirement to do things. I can't think of but a few small commands in windows that require me to type them in directly and none of them are needed by most users. Ubuntu needs to move in that direction. Terminal is still there for advanced users but for the basic and new users it should not be needed. There has to be a GUI interface for everything they need.
- InorganicMatter, on 03/09/2009, -0/+4He said it's a non-n00b-friendly hack. I'm going to guess it involves using cron to script rotation of the wallpaper image file.
Alternatively, this is built right into KDE. ;) - ethana2, on 03/10/2009, -0/+4*shrug*
Apps > Add > search VLC
What does it matter what's preinstalled and what's not? It's not like you have to open a frigging web browser or something just to install it. - FyberOptic, on 03/10/2009, -1/+5What a whiner. The original article was for things that the person thinks they "should" implement, as in suggestions. I thought most were good suggestions. It had pictures and mock-ups and descriptions. This guy is just an angry blogger with "SHUT UP IT'S GOOD THE WAY IT IS". How did this ***** ever get voted up enough to hit the front page?
- ghostlywind, on 03/09/2009, -1/+5Why should the developers have to implement these features, when all you have to do is figure out how to do it yourself, when ever i install any OS i spend some time tweaking it the way i like it.
- abbathdoom, on 03/09/2009, -0/+4When I was reading him write "Who cares" I was thinking "Who cares that you don't care"
- morphie, on 03/09/2009, -4/+8This article is just one big flame. Why? Everyone has the right to say what ubuntu should implement. If you disaggree with it, response to the article. Why would you want to write a new blog post for it, troll and flame in it, and post it on digg? That is a weird way of discussing you have....
- 7aji, on 03/10/2009, -0/+3if they only use one of those tons great looking themes that you can install as the default one. Problem solved.
- Scott2, on 03/10/2009, -0/+3I was about to say exactly the same thing. Cheers.
- moppsy, on 03/10/2009, -1/+4Not that it matters, but I have also been around since the 0.96 days.
Simply put,
Linux without init is not an operating system.
Init is not Linux.
The definition is correct, Linux is used as a generic term to refer to all Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel. That, however, does not make it correct. - se1zure, on 03/10/2009, -0/+3Did this guy even read the original article?
"And really, who cares about how much space on a previously burned CD is being taken up?"
He is clearly referencing this image:
http://www.l2image.com/images/k75fsymf65guf63vg3q4 ...
which indicated how much space is left on an UNBURNED disc, which is actually really useful... And the entire point of the original suggestion was that icons should have recognizable alterations to alert users of specific events, this guy just rambled on about how it's useless, when in reality icon status is very useful. - pHr34kY, on 03/10/2009, -0/+3This is exactly what I was thinking when I read the first article.
Actually, the first thing I thought was "Why the hell did this guy blog about it instead of posting it on brainstorm?" - srg13, on 03/10/2009, -1/+4"I guess it's a good thing he actually wants all the stuff that already comes preinstalled, otherwise he might really flip out if he, say, preferred AbiWord to OpenOffice.org Writer..."
The thing is that a media centre is really something that very few people actually use, so it's pointless to have it there by default... If you want one, just search for 'Media Centre" in the Add and Remove programs, and you can get Elisa or MythTV or some other good ones. - gavintlgold, on 03/10/2009, -1/+3I really think many of the points in the original article are good. The taskbar IS ugly, no matter what icons are on there. I always look at a screenshot of someone's tweaked desktop and the taskbar always sticks out. The spacing is bad, and the organization (or lack of organization) is annoying. Sure, you can tweak the panel the way you want it, but maybe it's too much. GNOME is known for its lack of configuration options, which is mostly good, but here we have something that is way too cluttered and customizable to be pretty.
(speaking of which, it's really annoying moving icons and objects around on the panel. Lots of right-clicking involved. Why not just have an 'edit' mode that unsticks all the icons?) - Hellahulla, on 03/09/2009, -4/+6That's because they are.
The mainstream wants eye candy and twiddly wobbly bits. - johndavidjack, on 03/10/2009, -1/+3I'm not going to digg you down or anything, but I really have never had any problems installing Ubuntu on a machine.
- se1zure, on 03/10/2009, -2/+4If they just made Ubuntu look halfway decent...
Both OSX and vista (and windows seven for that matter) look terrificly polished and professionally designed. Whereas ubuntu looks like complete garbage, no matter what theme you slap on (there is always something like the text for example). Sure you could spend hours finding a decent theme, installing anti aliasing text applications, and whatnot, but how is that considered good usability? I know 20 people are about to post screenshots of supposedly amazing looking ubuntu desktops that probably took 3 hours to configure... but next to a screencap of osx or windows 7 it will never look professional...
Please understand this linux community:
Good design isn't windows that wobble and rotating cubes. Those are just pointless and gaudy effects. Raise some money, hire a well known graphic design, and get an interface that doesn't look like garbage. Then maybe some more people will bite. - croxis, on 03/10/2009, -0/+2The program you are thinking of is called Xplanet or it's ancestor Xearth. Xplanet is in the ubuntu repository (I use it), and I am sure it is in most other distro's as well.
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