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Raptor Menu for KDE4
raptor-menu.org — A new menu for KDE4 that lists what items it thinks you are most likely to choose. For example, if you have konqueror open and you usually have it open with konsole, it will be on the list. If you already have akregator open, it knows you don't want to open it again so it won't show that. If you always open wine pr0n.exe at 1am every night, ...
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- xsacha, on 05/05/2008, -6/+78How do you like their new website @ raptor-menu.org? KDE projects always seem to have the best looking websites.
- estvir, on 05/05/2008, -31/+24It's okay, fairly amateurish.
- Quite dark
- The rounded corners on the banner image do not even line up
- The title/slogan text has horrible AA/kerning
- Those random orange + pink 'lines' are ugly
- The text in general looks just thrown on top
- The 'gradient' behind the titles on the sidebar are ugly and generic
- The background is meh
And so on.. As far as 'best looking websites' go, I wouldn't agree at all unless you're talking about strictly within the OSS community because most of project sides are hideous.- xsacha, on 05/05/2008, -0/+18Yeah I am talking about OSS community websites. Most of them are just plain text and it is great to see one with graphics in it. Anyway, those tips are great thanks.
I believe the person who made the site was N. Pinheiro. Will like your feedback I'm sure :).- estvir, on 05/05/2008, -13/+4No problem, tell him good luck. If I have some spare time this week I could whip something up. See, I wouldn't mind designing some sites for OSS projects but there's so many that are in need and I don't feel like debugging more code, hah. :x
- Chris4, on 05/05/2008, -4/+20Quite dark? You don't say! It's a black layout.
- Tenoq, on 05/05/2008, -2/+13I'll have to respectfully disagree. The website is quite striking and attractive. It certainly makes me want to read it even though I'm not particularly interested in the content. I'd say that's the definition of good website design.
- estvir, on 05/06/2008, -2/+1Sorry, but no. Look at the site, the bloody banner's rounded corner doesn't even line up with the vertical sides. The site is not striking (In a bad way, yes, as that rounded corner lashed out at me from the monitor, insulting every half decent designer) and it's barely attractive (It does have some semblance of something almost appeasing to the eye).
Besides, I'm just being Dugg down by OSS fanatics who cant' bear to hear a negative word, at first my comment was in the ~ +20 and my kind reply to xsacha was also positive, now it's not for no other reason.
Now, I do not care that my comments were Dugg down, it's not my problem that some of the OSS kids are so fickle and, well, pathetic.
Hell, next time I'll actually be more honest, I was 'beating around the bush' a fair bit with my original comment, not wanting to offend certain dramatic whores. Also, look at all the other people pointing out problems, especially lordbuddylove's comment -- if you were to post this on a remotely decent design forum, you'd be laughed to your death bed.
- estvir, on 05/06/2008, -2/+1Sorry, but no. Look at the site, the bloody banner's rounded corner doesn't even line up with the vertical sides. The site is not striking (In a bad way, yes, as that rounded corner lashed out at me from the monitor, insulting every half decent designer) and it's barely attractive (It does have some semblance of something almost appeasing to the eye).
- zwaldowski, on 05/05/2008, -0/+7It looks like the product. That's like dissing Microsoft's website for (gasp!) looking like Vista.
- estvir, on 05/06/2008, -1/+1No, it doesn't look explicitly like the product, it may be similar but it's not exactly the same. Besides, that's the most retarded excuse for poor web design. I'm not even remotely dissing it for looking like the product, I'm objectively pointing out things through with a web design.
The Vista site has a similar style to Vista and the site actually looks okay.
- estvir, on 05/06/2008, -1/+1No, it doesn't look explicitly like the product, it may be similar but it's not exactly the same. Besides, that's the most retarded excuse for poor web design. I'm not even remotely dissing it for looking like the product, I'm objectively pointing out things through with a web design.
- xsacha, on 05/05/2008, -0/+18Yeah I am talking about OSS community websites. Most of them are just plain text and it is great to see one with graphics in it. Anyway, those tips are great thanks.
- ictharus, on 05/05/2008, -12/+7also:
-the white text on black is hard to read
-the 'gradient' at the top of the containers should either be eliminated or expanded to completely hold the title- romistrub, on 05/05/2008, -5/+6I agree... I find white on black's contrast hurts my eyes more than black on white. Not sure why.
- jgtg32a, on 05/05/2008, -2/+6Because it does
- talonstriker, on 05/05/2008, -0/+2I prefer to put light gray on black on my website design...It doesn't kill your eyes if you're reading large amount of text. But again, I guess that the monitor's contrast settings make the most difference.
- gn0stik, on 05/05/2008, -0/+3That's why most typically use a light shade of gray instead of white.
- romistrub, on 05/05/2008, -5/+6I agree... I find white on black's contrast hurts my eyes more than black on white. Not sure why.
- cypher35, on 05/05/2008, -6/+7yeah, not terribly impressive...
- abbathdoom, on 05/05/2008, -4/+1It's attempting to be pretty website but failing because of all the minor technical issues outlined above.
- alpha88, on 05/05/2008, -0/+2As a designer, I'm not impressed at all. I find it much too "template" style. It looks like they chose some mediocre "web 2.0" template with lots of shine, and pasted in a logo and their content. It's all been done before, and often much better.
- mrflood, on 05/05/2008, -0/+0Talk about subliminal advertising. OMG they're in my head!!
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/9666/raptorcomm ... - lordbuddylove, on 05/05/2008, -0/+2I'm also not impressed. The compression on many of the JPG images is horrible. The line-spacing, margins and general type treatment is amateur. No offense, of course, the site doesn't suck. Just nothing to write home about.
- estvir, on 05/05/2008, -31/+24It's okay, fairly amateurish.
- Kingoftherings, on 05/05/2008, -0/+7Cool Idea, but what I don't really like is that it only shows a few applications then you have to scroll through. Does this fully replace the normal K Menu or can I go back to that if I need to use an app I don't normally use?
- amfantasy, on 05/05/2008, -0/+8you don't use the raptor menu in the same way was the k menu, it's meant to be completely different not just pretty.
- xsacha, on 05/05/2008, -0/+10Yeah, I'd just like to add that you can type the start of the application you are looking for (notice the search box) and it will display it in your list.
The idea of this menu is that there really is no need for a gigantic menu that shows you all the options you don't want.- thefinger, on 05/05/2008, -7/+2uh... Vista?
- mrBitch, on 05/05/2008, -0/+2uh... OS X ? (released 2001).
- lAmoebal, on 05/05/2008, -0/+0uh... launchy? (released 2005).
- Kingoftherings, on 05/05/2008, -1/+1Actually sounds neat. The K Menu is one of the reasons I don't really like KDE, back when I first used 3.5, I didn't like how there were Utilities, System, and Tools folders, and they were all basically the same, and they even had some of the same programs. :P
- thefinger, on 05/05/2008, -7/+2uh... Vista?
- dirtyforker, on 05/05/2008, -0/+4The whole point of great big menus is that they do, in fact, display all of the options you DO want. All of these 'usable' menus are less usable for failing to do this. No menu is going to be able to guess which options I want (at least before computers become psychic) and so all are harder for me to use than the old-fashioned one. The current kde 4 menu is horrible.
We will however get the choice so I'm sure there are people out there who will like this thing.
- xsacha, on 05/05/2008, -0/+10Yeah, I'd just like to add that you can type the start of the application you are looking for (notice the search box) and it will display it in your list.
- rpgmaker, on 05/05/2008, -0/+2Raptor seems to be aiming to the same that Avant-Window-Navigator is aiming at. I'm impressed with the latest builds of AWN, really cool applets.
- rodrigo74, on 05/05/2008, -1/+2That's a much better design:
http://www.kde.org/
- amfantasy, on 05/05/2008, -0/+8you don't use the raptor menu in the same way was the k menu, it's meant to be completely different not just pretty.
- mikelieman, on 05/05/2008, -1/+22http://www.raptor-menu.org/files/images/Mockups/co ...
Ooh! Shiny!- theeldest, on 05/05/2008, -1/+1Firefly reference?
Also shiny.
- theeldest, on 05/05/2008, -1/+1Firefly reference?
- Simonft, on 05/05/2008, -8/+16That is enough to make anyone want to switch away from windows... Its so shiny and doesn't make your computer slow down to a snails pace.
- iofthestorm, on 05/05/2008, -6/+4And yet, games are enough to keep me on Windows. That and the fact that my computer isn't at a snail's pace, although it does seem like a few years of Windows on a computer without a reformat is guaranteed to make any computer go at a snail's pace. I hope mine is different, but we shall see in a few years... *crosses fingers*
- iofthestorm, on 05/05/2008, -5/+2But really, I love KDE but gaming is too big for me to give up Windows for. I've used Linux off and on in the past, compiled kernels and everything but it was always more of a "gee, this is fun" kind of thing rather than actually trying to use the computer. But maybe once I get a laptop with not as good specs I'll use Kubuntu. Also, I have a $250 graphics card which becomes a $250 paperweight in Linux so I don't feel particularly inclined to do that just yet. I'm really excited about the KDE Windows port though, as I can't wait to use Amarok and Kopete, maybe ditching Pidgin as the developers get more and more restrictive with their UI.
- PatrickBrown, on 05/05/2008, -2/+6Me too stupid. Me don't know how dual boot. Dual boot makes me angry!
The gaming argument is getting old. I wish people would just come out and tell the truth already. It takes me only one minute to reboot into a vanilla windows on which to play games. The "game" excuse is *****.- theeldest, on 05/05/2008, -1/+1I'm trying to set an uptime record (personal record that is) on my computer. I always failed when running windows, and do pretty well in Linux.
But rebooting to switch to Linux kills my uptime.
*How's that for a good excuse? ;) * - Tyrghast, on 05/05/2008, -2/+2Here's my excuse:
Too lazy, ***** off.
- theeldest, on 05/05/2008, -1/+1I'm trying to set an uptime record (personal record that is) on my computer. I always failed when running windows, and do pretty well in Linux.
- gage006, on 05/05/2008, -0/+2The point is we don't want to. If only there was a native WoW port, i'd be sold. Come on Blizzard, you already have the mac version!
- theeldest, on 05/05/2008, -0/+1WoW runs out of the box through Wine.
That is effectively a Linux port.
- theeldest, on 05/05/2008, -0/+1WoW runs out of the box through Wine.
- PatrickBrown, on 05/05/2008, -2/+6Me too stupid. Me don't know how dual boot. Dual boot makes me angry!
- iofthestorm, on 05/05/2008, -5/+2But really, I love KDE but gaming is too big for me to give up Windows for. I've used Linux off and on in the past, compiled kernels and everything but it was always more of a "gee, this is fun" kind of thing rather than actually trying to use the computer. But maybe once I get a laptop with not as good specs I'll use Kubuntu. Also, I have a $250 graphics card which becomes a $250 paperweight in Linux so I don't feel particularly inclined to do that just yet. I'm really excited about the KDE Windows port though, as I can't wait to use Amarok and Kopete, maybe ditching Pidgin as the developers get more and more restrictive with their UI.
- zongamin, on 05/05/2008, -8/+4Its terrible to think that grown men are so obsessed with playing computer games.
- mikelieman, on 05/05/2008, -5/+3It's terrible to think that grown men can't buy a PS3.
- Narishma, on 05/05/2008, -0/+6Yes because we all know only children play video games and watch anime.
- elliotks, on 05/05/2008, -0/+0Its terrible to think that grown men want to listen to grown women cry about how we are obsessed with playing computer games.
- monoa, on 05/05/2008, -2/+1There's lots of 'shiny' happening over at the Linux party, but the application ecosystem just doesn't compare to Windows. I've been trying for 18 months to migrate from XP to Ubuntu - but there are just too many apps I don't want to live without.
- iofthestorm, on 05/05/2008, -6/+4And yet, games are enough to keep me on Windows. That and the fact that my computer isn't at a snail's pace, although it does seem like a few years of Windows on a computer without a reformat is guaranteed to make any computer go at a snail's pace. I hope mine is different, but we shall see in a few years... *crosses fingers*
- tcardone05, on 05/05/2008, -2/+22Better, you know, if you spell powerful correctly on your top image.
- jlimon, on 05/05/2008, -1/+9Well, while I find it funny that it's misspelled..
It's actually even funnier if you realize it's just reading the .desktop file that some package manager wrote. - Buu700, on 05/05/2008, -0/+1Well, Firefox is pretty powreful...
- twiztidsinz, on 05/05/2008, -0/+9when you see it, you'll ***** birks.
- Disfnord, on 05/05/2008, -0/+1Latest in svn
ui dose not render...
fix typeo for boom1992...
- jlimon, on 05/05/2008, -1/+9Well, while I find it funny that it's misspelled..
- Danby123, on 05/05/2008, -28/+4Rick Roll!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU- afx1, on 05/05/2008, -0/+12the warning was quite polite and unexpected
- Danby123, on 05/05/2008, -2/+2No problem!
- dontaskagain, on 05/05/2008, -3/+3Your doing it wrong
- afx1, on 05/05/2008, -0/+12the warning was quite polite and unexpected
- thisguy47, on 05/05/2008, -3/+16Next up, raptor jesus menu!
- twiztidsinz, on 05/05/2008, -0/+2Tha'd get me to switch!
- Appleologist, on 05/05/2008, -15/+5sorry but that UI is ugly compared to quicksilver's available interfaces (my personal fav is BezelHUD)
- cesclaveria, on 05/05/2008, -0/+4so they should stop development because there is something nicer available on other, incompatible, platform?
- Appleologist, on 05/05/2008, -1/+1calm down Linux nerds! you all are the reason linux hasn't gone consumer-mainstream. I never said they should "stop development"… I just think that they have some work to do to clean up their ui.
- Appleologist, on 05/05/2008, -1/+1calm down Linux nerds! you all are the reason linux hasn't gone consumer-mainstream. I never said they should "stop development"… I just think that they have some work to do to clean up their ui.
- estvir, on 05/05/2008, -6/+2It's ugly compared to Gnome Do too.. and Gnome Do seems better as well..
http://do.davebsd.com/- sirhomer, on 05/05/2008, -1/+5It is not really comparable to Gnome-Do.
- patcito, on 05/05/2008, -2/+2KDE has the same thing, it's called katapult:
http://katapult.kde.org/
- cesclaveria, on 05/05/2008, -0/+4so they should stop development because there is something nicer available on other, incompatible, platform?
- TheRealToma, on 05/05/2008, -12/+18Is anyone else sick of gloss and glass on your desktop?
- TiMMY8765, on 05/05/2008, -2/+7yeah. also, I am not a huge fan of widgets and floating things that just clutter everything up
- mossblaser, on 05/05/2008, -0/+3Then choose one of the really nice matte styles (and I mean really nice) that KDE4 has (if you're using KDE 4) or just change your theme on KDE 3.5 or GNOME or whatever you're using.
- TheRealToma, on 05/05/2008, -2/+3Oh I do agree, but it seems that every widget and application these days is striving for that cheap plastic look. Could be the tech crowds love affair for the Shiny plastic macs. Heres a little theme I made for E17.
http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs27/i/2008/098/1/6/Gru ...
I crave some originality on my desktop.
- TheRealToma, on 05/05/2008, -2/+3Oh I do agree, but it seems that every widget and application these days is striving for that cheap plastic look. Could be the tech crowds love affair for the Shiny plastic macs. Heres a little theme I made for E17.
- ccaazz, on 05/05/2008, -2/+4No :P
- Echomote, on 05/05/2008, -1/+4I'm not sick of the gloss and glass, I'm sick of the dark, depressing colour everyone's starting to use again (black).
- Bkaufman, on 05/05/2008, -5/+11Dunno...KDE has some cool stuff, but I don't feel like spending alot of time fiddling with my UI. GNOME works fine for what I need, and its pretty enough. This is pretty though.
- Weejay, on 05/05/2008, -1/+8Before this degenerates into a holy war, I'd like to further comment on that issue: KDE might be powerful (that's a plus) but Gnome's defaults work better (at the expense of customization sometimes). So in the end, both DEs have their upsides and downsides, which is perfect, because Open Source is all about choice and healthy competition. Finally, as a Gnome user, I'd like to congratulate the KDE desktop team for their work on KDE 4.0, it looks stunning and will surely bring users on this side of the lawn.
- sloppychris, on 05/05/2008, -3/+5What about Raptor needs fiddling? Or is this a comment on KDE as a whole for some reason?
- Ademan, on 05/05/2008, -0/+2Definitely a cool idea, however trying to read a human's convoluted mind is pretty tricky, I think this would do best if it was somehow integrated into the K menu, or vice versa, that way the K menu is still there in the extremely likely case that it predicts wrong (but not taking up two spots in your kicker, also when I say it's most likely going to be wrong I don't mean to say the tech is bad, it's just that sort of thing is hard to get right, I mean, even if the tech was totally right on with its pattern recognition, that doesn't mean it can always know what the user actually wants)
- xsacha, on 05/05/2008, -0/+1Well the idea is you can just type the name of the program you want (it has search as you type) and it will have the program you want. You will be able to get anything that is in the normal KMenu.
- sirhomer, on 05/05/2008, -1/+6This has to be one of the coolest Linux things on Digg in a while. Very good work.
- cloak419, on 05/05/2008, -8/+1Lol, linux. Lol, cool.
- Snazz, on 05/05/2008, -8/+15So, it's like the personalised menu's in MS products that people revile and disable immediately... awesome.
- iofthestorm, on 05/05/2008, -2/+10Yes, but smarter. Read up on how it works, it's pretty fascinating and intelligent.
- droban, on 05/05/2008, -4/+1well this is tempting me to reinstall linux mint with KDE instead of gnome, looks cool!
- KingGorilla, on 05/05/2008, -0/+23This had nothing to do with eating dinosaurs
- mrflood, on 05/05/2008, -0/+0OMG they're in my head!!
[URL=http://imageshack.us][IMG]http://img211.imageshack ...
- mrflood, on 05/05/2008, -0/+0OMG they're in my head!!
- tylerjwilk, on 05/05/2008, -0/+1kinda cool idea but they need something more like gnome-do (read quicksilver)
love the tag line btw, "a new way to touch your apps" ... uumm sounds kinky- rexbron, on 05/05/2008, -0/+2See Katapult.
- ptFoe, on 05/05/2008, -0/+1Nice but Gnome-Do has become so powerful that I use it to open/run most things.
- LastDitchHero, on 05/05/2008, -0/+0and you know what is even better about Linux? If something works on KDE you can get it to run GNOME and vice versa. Its like having Big Mac sauce on a whopper just less disgusting.
- MattBD, on 05/05/2008, -0/+1I think Katapult is pretty similar to Gnome-Do.
- freality, on 05/06/2008, -0/+0Gnome-Do is what Katapult would've been if it was finished.
- allah6464, on 05/05/2008, -6/+0Am I the only one who absolutely loathes the fact that KDE seems to be attempting to replicate Vista-style glass and black gloss all over the place? As much as I dislike GNOME at times for its dumbed-down approach and performance issues, it looks a hell of a lot more professional than what we have been seeing from KDE lately.
As for the menu itself: how does replacing the traditional pop-out application menu with a set of giant and disorganized icons contribute to usability? Novell's slab menu in their implementation of GNOME is a decent compromise (with the search feature being the only real improvement in usability), but this seems to serve no purpose besides being different for the sake of being different.- LinuxGalore, on 05/05/2008, -0/+5Glass and crystal effects in KDE have been around for well over 6 years. You remind me of the idiot who told me that the animated unlock option I was demoing in Qtopia Mobile user interface was stolen from the iPhone even though the unlock applet feature has been in QTopia for 4 years.
- mossblaser, on 05/05/2008, -0/+3You'd be surprised how many of the most "new and innovative" features and visual trends were first seen in the wild on KDE. KDE has had compositing effects (simple drop shadows and the like) since well before compiz and looking glass. The crystal icons first featured in KDE have insipred a lot of new icon sets (used in a certain major operating system). KDE has some insane features in terms of random and very usefull functionallity. Eg. browse a CD and instead of the cda files you get mp3 or ogg files you can play or copy straight off the disk.
- mozzep, on 05/05/2008, -0/+1an improvement, but with application launchers like quicksilver or linux alternatives, even this improvement is superfluous.
- rjosal, on 05/05/2008, -0/+8Menu's like these, and the MS ones that show the part of the menu that you use most often, introduce thinking into the equation. I prefer being able to blindly click the same option at the same place every time. I do not have time to locate the correct item.
My hot pocket is done. Luckily the microwave is still in the same place, even though I've made more hot pockets this week.- mikelieman, on 05/05/2008, -0/+1While in KDE ( mostly my laptop... ) I prefer:
1. [Alt]+[F2]
2. type name of application
3. [Enter] - Trel, on 05/05/2008, -0/+2Ready, here's the best part.
If that's how you like it, then use the traditional menus. It's an option. It's not forced on you. That's one of the most beautiful things about OSS.
- mikelieman, on 05/05/2008, -0/+1While in KDE ( mostly my laptop... ) I prefer:
- 24imac, on 05/05/2008, -2/+3Cool stuff like this needs to be put in OSX. My macbook has no real reason to run OSX, i dont see why I cant have linux on it with KDE 4 and Raptor.
- mossblaser, on 05/05/2008, -1/+1In fact my macbook *does* have kde4 and raptor on it (i wiped mac os off about a year ago).
- pfranz, on 05/05/2008, -0/+3Since installing Quicksilver on my mac, I can't imagine a better application launcher.
- Skooma714, on 05/05/2008, -0/+2Seems like a toy more than anything serious.
I might give a try though - sonofabeast, on 05/05/2008, -8/+2Linus Torvalds is rolling in his grave.
- OneLess, on 05/05/2008, -0/+9We need to catch the bastard who buried him alive! To the Mystery Machine!
- SystemError51, on 05/05/2008, -1/+2Or Mythbusters =D
- OneLess, on 05/05/2008, -0/+9We need to catch the bastard who buried him alive! To the Mystery Machine!
- salvadorwii, on 05/05/2008, -3/+3well, if you run pr0n.exe every night, then you have a problem...
- PsychoBrat, on 05/05/2008, -0/+9Yeah, c'mon, surely you can find a native linux alternative.
- neko, on 05/05/2008, -0/+3You could set up a cron job to do it for you.
- scilec, on 05/05/2008, -0/+5I want a menu that helps me not only see a well-organized list of my installed apps, but get to them quickly & easily. That's why I absolutely HATE the new menu that comes with KDE 4. I realize that KDE 4 is still a work in progress, but the design team has to do something about the default menu in addition to the fact that everything is just... too big. I personally reverted to using the old KDE 3.5 style menu on my system. While it's not perfect either, at least I can see what I have and launch what I want fairly quickly.
I'm not sure about Raptor yet because I haven't tried it but I'll certainly give it a shot. - HairyPoter, on 05/05/2008, -10/+1Linux need more than pretty graphics to be popular. The problem with linux is that it is very complicate to get things done. For example: I have a machine running Ubuntu and I need a software to edit a video. I have download several software. All them I have to compile the software. Wait. I said I have to compile the program? WTF! Release the crap compiled, for God's sake! I'm aware that there are zillions of versions of Linux and that's why it is released not compiled and this is the second reason. Too many linux flavors, too much options, they will never be popular splitting. They should unify all Linuxes in One Linux. What Apple did to BSD Unix is a lesson to be learn by Linux guys. Apple put the simplicity in one side (the graphics interface), the power of Unix on the other side and created a layer between these two that makes the system works (core audio, quartz, etc.). That's what linux need, to join, not to split. And here talking is not a newbie.
- NuclearWookie, on 05/05/2008, -0/+6Dude, I don't think you have much of an understanding of how Linux works or is organized.
- SteveMax, on 05/05/2008, -0/+1Really? You mean there is NO video editing software in apt?
Your username and general attitude directly contradict your last sentence. - viggooo, on 05/05/2008, -0/+1There are a few video editors in the standard repositories for ubuntu 8.04, but I don't know if any of them are any good.
The ones I can see are:
- Pitivi Video Editor
- Avidemux
- Kino
- Open Movie Editor
- todisc GUI
- Bowie, on 05/05/2008, -2/+4Yawn.
Wake me up when someone decides to do something that doesn't look like Vista.
(I know it's horrible. Everyone knows it's horrible. But if it's so horrible, WTF are Linux developers doing trying to imitate it?)- mikelieman, on 05/05/2008, -0/+2You are looking for Ratpoison -- a mouseless GUI.
- Peterix, on 05/05/2008, -1/+3Every GUI should be usable without a mouse. Like the windows one. Try it if you don't believe me.
Gnome fails here, because I can't switch to the panels and tab through them or open the menu easily. I'm not talking about ability to control the mouse pointer with keyboard. that sucks.
I don't know about KDE, but I would be surprised if it did work without a mouse. Can anyone with more KDE experience comment on this?- SteveMax, on 05/05/2008, -0/+1Besides the odd Gnome/GTK app, KDE/Qt works fine without a mouse. You may have to add some keyboard shortcuts, though, depending on what your distro uses as default.
- mikelieman, on 05/05/2008, -0/+1There's a WORLD of difference between "It sorta works without a mouse" to "It was DESIGNED to be used -- ALL THE TIME -- without taking your hands away from the keyboard...
Additionally -- under Ratpoison -- I don't have *any* wasted screen real-estate. EVERYTHING runs full screen, and since it's DESIGNED to be used without a mouse, there's no pointless wasted space or resources dedicated to drawing pretty frames around windows, moving windows, resizing window -- there's no MINIMIZE or RESTORE or X buttons.
- Peterix, on 05/05/2008, -1/+3Every GUI should be usable without a mouse. Like the windows one. Try it if you don't believe me.
- mossblaser, on 05/05/2008, -1/+3You'd be surprised how many visual features of vista had thier first appearances in KDE, besides, KDE4 does not look like vista in the same way vista doesn't look like mac os X.
- mikelieman, on 05/05/2008, -0/+2You are looking for Ratpoison -- a mouseless GUI.
- TheHappyRobot, on 05/05/2008, -0/+1How does one patch KDE4 under FreeBSD?
- nxtwrld, on 05/05/2008, -1/+1Looks cool - hope it won't turn into MS Assistant given always wrong assistance....
- fishie, on 05/05/2008, -0/+1can this be installed in gnome, or does it require some kde parts?
- xsacha, on 05/05/2008, -1/+0It also uses KDE4 and Qt4.40 libraries.
- Echomote, on 05/05/2008, -1/+1Which means what for the people who don't want to learn about all these libraries? Can it run on gnome or not?
- BlackAdderIII, on 05/07/2008, -1/+1How about you don't bother to go to the "trouble", and go without.
- Echomote, on 05/05/2008, -1/+1Which means what for the people who don't want to learn about all these libraries? Can it run on gnome or not?
- Elv13, on 05/05/2008, -0/+0It is a plasma applet, so you cany use it at all in Gnome, you have to be in a full KDE sessions to use it (plasma+kde menu)
- xsacha, on 05/05/2008, -1/+0It also uses KDE4 and Qt4.40 libraries.
- tobyadams, on 05/05/2008, -0/+2yuck, i think kde looks so unfinished, but this is a start
- Elv13, on 05/05/2008, -0/+0I cant believe that nobody notice that this site is almost not updated since 6 month and that this menu is far from working and got less than 50 commit in the last years. Why is the page on digg today?
KDE4 is (as a dev myself) great and introduce some really nice piece of technology. It is now more mature (still not quite ready for general user, but still better than kde3 in my opinion). 4.1 will be a nice release, I don't think they should allow this young piece of software, probably ready less than 24 hours before the 4.1 release (if it is ready) to be part of it.
I also think that raptop should return to the center of the taskbar, it was nicer than in the corner, KDE don't have to be conservative about the taskbar, it was ugly in kde3 and still ugly in kde4, they have to redesign it, and the original mockup were nicer than the actual state in svn.- xsacha, on 05/05/2008, -0/+0That website (raptor-menu.org) was created just 2 months ago. How could the site not be updated in 6 months then?
The project is progressing slowly and could benefit from more developers. If you are willing to help, being a dev yourself, that would be greatly appreciated.
- xsacha, on 05/05/2008, -0/+0That website (raptor-menu.org) was created just 2 months ago. How could the site not be updated in 6 months then?
- GreatSunJester, on 05/05/2008, -0/+1I have the new version running in a VM at work. First thing I realized was I do no like the menu! I am a simple person, when I want a menu, I want a list of applications. I may or may not put them into folders to organize them, but I do NOT want a menu to change as i use it. I turn off Vista's personalized menus, and I will turn Raptor off as well.
- LastDitchHero, on 05/05/2008, -2/+0Psssh, who would want this when you could just have a grey Windows Bar/ GNOME Panel
/sarcasm
KDE is looking to kick some serious rear. It is nice to have options like raptor and all the desktop plasmids. When KDE hits 4.1 I will give it another serious try over GNOME- MattBD, on 05/05/2008, -0/+1I was looking forward to the Kubuntu KDE4 remix, but when it came out I wasn't quite happy with it, so for Hardy I'm sticking to KDE3.5. But when Intrepid Ibex is out in October, I'm going to be switching to KDE4 - hopefully KDE4.1 should see some real progress!
- TheWindBlows, on 05/08/2008, -0/+2GNOME doesn't look so bad once correctly themed.
- neFariou5, on 05/05/2008, -1/+1Is it me or does this look frightening similar to OSX's dock? (And no that isn't a good thing.)
- mikeivanov, on 05/05/2008, -0/+1> lists what items it thinks you are most likely to choose.
It's not a big problem. A small brain surgery could help this poor program not to think that much. Personally, I find too smart programs annoying.
