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- legoalert33, on 09/06/2008, -5/+87Dual Boot.
- mark076h, on 09/06/2008, -1/+55if you are a hardcore gamer then dual boot is the only option.
- GumGuts, on 09/06/2008, -3/+49I think the best solution is developers make ports for Linux...
- nemoder, on 09/06/2008, -6/+48Wine can be made to work with most of the top games as well but it can take a bit more tweaking to get working properly. But at least it's Free.
http://appdb.winehq.org/ - CyberBeast, on 09/06/2008, -3/+40Use Wine!
Run Crisys as a step based strategy game! - Kingoftherings, on 09/06/2008, -3/+32Didn't even mention Play On Linux.
- Anand999, on 09/06/2008, -2/+27All Wine is basically doing is translating Windows API calls to an equivalent Linux API call. It doesn't really implement the necessary APIs itself. So it's not really fair to say that Windows could be rewritten as a 7MB OS, rather it takes 7MB of code to translate the Windows calls to Linux calls.
- postpostmodern, on 09/06/2008, -16/+40You know, it has always intrigued me that Windows fanboys never notice that Linux can actually run software made for Windows with a 7 megabyte download (Wine). A 7 MB download!!!. And that's without a single line of code from Microsoft.
Windows sucks at being Linux... and Linux... does slightly poorer at being Windows than Windows. - cday, on 09/06/2008, -6/+29Obviously it does work well for other folks...which makes yours a "Very useless" comment.
Sheeesh, if you don't like Wine, then go Digg some Silverlight news, whydon'tcha? - Zaggynl, on 09/06/2008, -2/+22Wine is an amazing piece of art, but it doesn't beat native games.
Please gamedevs, port your games to the penguin! - mrfanboy, on 09/06/2008, -1/+21Someone named "Tux Geek" can't even get WoW to run under Wine, a task which can be solved in five minutes by looking at ANY popular Linux forum. Buried.
- championchap, on 09/06/2008, -0/+19If the primary use of your PC is to Game on then why the hell did any of you install Linux?
- Soytaco, on 09/06/2008, -2/+19Windows tries to be Linux?
- martian67, on 09/06/2008, -4/+21this whole article is such a load of astroturfing crap on cedegas part...
DOS accounting programs and text editors? WTF...
Wine works perfectly well with alot of games out of the box, especially games that use OpenGL like most of blizzards catalouge... - noots, on 09/06/2008, -1/+15i'm the same, Dual Boot is the superior option.
Not only is it ideal to switch to windows so games run how they are supposed to. But if you do the bulk of your work in Linux it prevents you from "loading a game for 30 min" and distracting you from stuff you need to be doing.
i usually find myself looking to waste some time, then when i realize i need to close everything down and reboot i find myself just getting back to work, or browsing the internet.... - inactive, on 09/06/2008, -9/+23Microsoft is so 1995
- Hermmunster, on 09/06/2008, -1/+15Cedega does not work any more. Used to. I've not managed to get it to work with most anything these days. Can't give it credit for much of anything.
I used to be able to get many programs working with it. Lots of games would run. But now it doesn't and their support is bottom of the barrel.
Just being honest. - HarryRag, on 09/06/2008, -2/+15Digging an article on playing Windows Games under Linux. What are your options:
- Getting buried for INFORMING people of their options when playing games on PCs
- Getting spammed by know-nothing-know-it-all Windows fanboys
- Have insults thrown at you (a 'poor bum' for not using Windows... wtf?) - alexforcefive, on 09/06/2008, -2/+15If you're using Linux it's probably for some kind of ethical/anti-corporate reason, in which case I'd recommend staying away from Cedega. From winehq...
"Cedega (formerly WineX) is a product from a company called TransGaming. TransGaming based their product on Wine back in 2002 when Wine had a different license, closed their source code, and rebranded their version as specialized for gamers. In the years since Cedega was originally created from Wine, development on Wine and Cedega have continued mostly independently. TransGaming currently gives back very little code to Wine. Cedega is not "Wine with more gaming support" - because Wine has had years of development since Cedega was made, many games actually run better under Wine than under Cedega. Currently, Wine has more advanced Direct3D support than Cedega, but Cedega still has more advanced copy protection support due to TransGaming's licensing of (closed source) code from a handful of copy protection companies. Unlike CrossOver, most improvements to Wine don't get into Cedega due to the license differences between Cedega and Wine." - neasteflorin, on 09/06/2008, -3/+15Right on cday!
- Inaeth, on 09/06/2008, -3/+16You are absolutely incorrect. Having used Linux as my primary OS for the past 4 years, and having used Wine to game in Linux for the rare times I actually have time to game, I've ~never~ needed to install a DLL to make the game play. Wine is ready to run, out-of-the-box. One may need to check the Applications Database (appDB) on the Wine web site every once in awhile to see if a program is compatible with the current version of Wine, and every once in awhile one may need to get a DLL for one specific program, but those files are almost always the files that MS freely distributes from their own web site.
Please, at least have a little experience with the software in question in these articles before making inane comments about them. - dtfinch, on 09/06/2008, -1/+13Wine, Wine, or Wine.
- neasteflorin, on 09/06/2008, -4/+15I hate recommending for pay closed source apps, really. But I have to give credit where credit is due, and Cedega really works. Yes, Wine can be 'tamed' to work with some games, but it takes some effort and ultimately the performance isn't that great.
- djbon2112, on 09/06/2008, -0/+11It does that on Windows too...
- kent1146, on 09/06/2008, -2/+12How many people do you know who bought their copy of Windows?
The only people that I know who "paid" for their copy of Windows got an OEM copy that came pre-installed on some hardware they purchased. - explnx, on 04/27/2009, -0/+10If you don't care about free software, why not get a cheap copy of xp and dual boot? It will run everything.
- neasteflorin, on 09/06/2008, -2/+12Linux is still new for a lot of people.
- themusicalduck, on 09/06/2008, -0/+9I'm not a linux hater, but I seem to be one of those unfortunate individuals who no matter how much tweaking and troubleshooting I do, just can't get any of my games to run smoothly or even at all under Linux. The only success I ever had was with WoW, but even then it has enough problems to put me off using Linux to play it.
It could be something to do with my particular hardware or some strange configuration I've missed, but for now I'm still a dual-booter while only really being a casual gamer..
I'm sure it works great for some people, but for me no such luck. - BeatPunchbeef, on 09/06/2008, -1/+10What "premium os" are you speaking of? If you are referring to XP or Vista, well then, have fun getting buried.
- RKDN, on 09/06/2008, -1/+10PlayonLinux is the best solution I have found. Free and its better than Cedega in my opinion.
- DefaultGen, on 09/06/2008, -4/+13It about time people realize this is the answer for 100% of games instead of posting articles about how you can make "popular" games work or make games work "almost" as well as on Windows.
- Viperidae, on 09/06/2008, -2/+10But does it run Crysis?
ummm actually it does! - sjust, on 09/06/2008, -1/+9I run WoW in wine runs just as fast as it does on windows only I get a lot better ping rates.
- bj1989, on 09/06/2008, -1/+9Anything more complex then minesweeper? Wine doesn't require a single native DLL to run Half-Life 2, Oblivion and tons of other games. While it's that a lot of games don't run in their full potential, you don't make yourself sound very believable.
- CorbinFox, on 09/06/2008, -3/+12@alexforcefive: I don't use linux for ethical/anti-corporate reasons (tho they are fun to be able to brag about). i use it because it is faster, easier, and just plain better for me to use.
- somestranger26, on 09/06/2008, -7/+14"Uninstall Windows" and Install Linux? Easy... besides, you don't have to get rid of windows.
"Lots of configuration" uh... plenty of games work out-of-the-box, and the ones that don't are easy to configure.
"Emulate windows poorly" Really? I get better or comparable framerates in most compatible games because I'm lacking the added Windows bloat. - UNL1M1T3D, on 09/06/2008, -1/+8That's the dumbest analogy I've ever heard.
- greevar, on 09/06/2008, -1/+8I think the real solution to Linux vs. Windows vs. Mac OSX is that the ISO should adopt a standard for the API that all operating systems use to run applications. This way an app for Windows will run on Linux and OSX or what ever platform you prefer. It would eliminate "porting" software from one OS to another, reduce coding bugs, and it would expand the potential market for software makers. Most importantly, it should be open source and free (as in beer) to anyone to use for their software development. A universal open source API?
- dtfinch, on 09/06/2008, -0/+7You'd think DOS accounting programs would be dead. Not where I work.
http://www.qwpage.com/product.html - parax, on 09/06/2008, -0/+8I thought the number of times Richard Stallman has repeated his mantra "free as in speech not free as in beer" would have sunk it into even the thickest heads.
One of the key advantages of Linux is that it's free, not that it's low-cost/no-cost which is nice but not necessarily a key advantage. The fact that Linux works better means I'd pay at least as much money for it as I'd pay for Windows, so it's price is not a key advantage. - bj1989, on 09/06/2008, -0/+6No virtual machine supports full 3d acceleration yet. It's expirimental at best and you will ALWAYS have a massive performance hit when using virtual machines, for now at least.
- houndeyex, on 09/06/2008, -0/+6Cedega is $45 for a whole year. I hardly say that's overkill for as well supported as it sounds.
- ChiaGod, on 09/06/2008, -2/+8I agree, this article is pure crap. Having used all three I can definitely say that for Linux wine is the best option for the majority of games. I was a Cedega subscriber for the longest time, but after a while of issues going unresolved (with fixes that read "Run the updater under wine, then you can play WoW again under Cedega!") I decided to give wine a try.
For WoW in particular I had to do two things to maximize performance:
1) Add one line to the registry (step by step instructions on winehq.org)
2) Set WoW to launch w/ OpenGL.
All other games I've tried seem to work quite well (Halflife 2 + Episode1 and 2; Portal, Team Fortress, Eve Online, Old Blizzard games, Ventrilo, Portal, some tax software I picked up last april (don't remember the name), DVD Shrink, DVD Decrypter, and Supreme Commander (which is the only game I've installed that required 2or3 dlls - for sound - which were available via link from it's winehq-appdb site).
For mac Crossover Games is a nice alternative (easy to install) and my wife's been enjoying Portal on her mac.
Cedega does have it's strengths (if your game is officially supported), but it might not be any better than wine (keep in mind, cedega forked off wine a LOOOONG time a go so the two are quite dissimilar now). Two nice features I do have to say for Cedega are the automatic defaults for some programs and the ability to change which version of the Cedega engine a particular game launches with.
Crossover (which has a regular and a Crossover Games version) offers the ability to create "bottles", where essentially you have your program installed in it's own fake windows with it's own settings, you can then just copy the whole bottle to other Linux installs (saving you the time of re-installing the program for that computer). The other bonus is that the Crossover folks (unlike the Cedega peeps) contribute back to wine. - Feldon, on 09/06/2008, -1/+7I Play WoW on Linux yes the first time you configure it's at pain after that it's cake walk. Works for me no problems what so ever.
- djbon2112, on 09/06/2008, -0/+6If it's optimized, I couldn't care less!
- ferrariman60, on 09/06/2008, -0/+6Yeah, it really is the only way to go. I mean, it's great that you can make Linux "mostly" work with games and such, but there really is no beating the real thing. Play your game, reboot into your distro of choice.
- greevar, on 09/06/2008, -1/+7As a game design student, I whole-heartedly hear you.
- ttforum, on 09/06/2008, -2/+8I like linux, but after using it for awhile I had to go back to windows. I got tired of everything taking hours, if not days, to make it work correctly. It isn't Linux's fault. It just doesn't have the marketshare to get mainstream support.
- tech10171968, on 09/06/2008, -1/+6I dugg you up because at least you gave it a shot before criticizing. Most Windows fanboys don't even go that far; they just hurl insults without even having seen, let alone tried to use, the OS in the first place.
- zip000, on 09/06/2008, -2/+7If you do much programming you typically have to install some linux or unix environments, yes.
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