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- schestowitz, on 01/09/2008, -20/+85Why insult Pixel an the GIMP by calling them "Photoshop for Linux"? ;-) Firefox -- the Internet Explorer of Linux?
- mahenda, on 01/09/2008, -1/+53Oops, I forgot, direct URL is http://www.pixelimageeditor.com
- Philluminati, on 01/09/2008, -6/+52Pixel as an alternative to Photoshop?
They look so much like the god damn same program I'd say "hey, Pixel, you want an Ice cream?" and both of them would say "Yes" - fotbr, on 01/09/2008, -1/+47Simple, the GIMP community is ***** obsessed with NOT being like photoshop. Suggestions are dismissed with 'you can write a plugin to do that" or "if you like photoshop so much, use it".
- corevette, on 01/09/2008, -2/+47because Firefox is 'more' well known....
"Hey I use Firefox!" "Hey me too!"
"Hey I use the GIMP!" "...the what?' - Arramol, on 01/09/2008, -1/+45Because comparing something to Photoshop is a compliment, while comparing it to IE is an insult. That, and there really is a demand for "Photoshop for Linux," whereas nobody misses IE when they make the switch.
- Elranzer, on 01/09/2008, -4/+37Pixel is little more than an extremely buggy program developed by one stubborn, irrational developer. The program may LOOK like Photoshop, but in the same way the Chinese Vii looks like the Wii. GIMP runs circles around Pixel in functionality. Pixel is only slightly above TuxPaint in functionality.
If you want a *real* alternative to Photoshop, that's also an alternative to GIMP, you might want to check out Paint-Mono (paint.net port) or KDE's Krita. - csulok, on 01/09/2008, -2/+35too bad it's not free :(
- inactive, on 01/09/2008, -6/+31GiMP is free
- Remmy, on 01/09/2008, -0/+23"Pixel’s price is now $38, the final release in 2007 will cost more ($89). If you purchase now, you can save $51 and all updates until the next major release (not including) are available for free."
Been waiting for that final release for damn near 2 years now.... - Justathought, on 01/09/2008, -0/+18Pixel is much better for working with RAW photographs than the Gimp since you can adjust many things in 16 bit mode. Too bad that it forces you to drop to 8 bits for using the Unsharp Mask. Cinepaint allows you to do it all in 16 bit mode, but it doesn't remember the folder you are working on when doing a "Save As", which makes working with it unnecessarily clunky.
- inactive, on 01/09/2008, -6/+21So what happened to free and open source software? Why can't they make GIMP as good as photoshop?
- Dragular, on 01/09/2008, -2/+17They are twins, that is why.
- coit, on 01/09/2008, -1/+16Looks nice, but it doesn't appear to be very well supported. Hardly any updates since 2006...
- Mejogid, on 01/09/2008, -1/+13Dugg for actually having experience with what you're talking about...
- Remmy, on 01/09/2008, -4/+16And then you deal with the potential licensing issues that arise from Mono. Looks like you're screwed either way you go.
- nkonstas, on 01/09/2008, -13/+24I'm sure in 10-20 years Gimp will be as good as Photoshop 7...
- sishgupta, on 01/09/2008, -1/+12Yes. I have used Pixel and agree with your assessment of the application whole-heartedly.
The more frustrating part is that this application pops up on digg once a month as some unfound holycrap photoshop replacement. - Elranzer, on 01/09/2008, -0/+10Stubborn, conservative developers (i.e. "It's fine the way it is!")... it's sorta in the same boat as XMMS. Luckily there's now a movement for GIMP to get a better interface.
- fotbr, on 01/09/2008, -2/+12Doesn't mean its a suitable replacement for photoshop though.
- niallabrown, on 01/09/2008, -8/+16Yea I've used it. It's quite decent actually and very affordable.
- struds, on 01/09/2008, -0/+7true, but only if you can run it
- nkonstas, on 01/09/2008, -4/+11It's not an insult - it's a complement!
- fyngyrz, on 01/09/2008, -2/+9Nonsense. Photoshop falls behind other apps in various areas. Paintshops brush-handling leaves photoshop in the dust; WinImages does better geometrics, has more layer modes, is tons faster, leaner and cheaper; Ron Scott's QFX has some really neat object oriented editing tools; even the Gimp has advantages, particularly in the area of plug-ins, and the next version, cooking now, looks to be very interesting.
Photoshop is huge, clunky, slow, and hugely expensive, and it is not the end-all and be-all of all graphics operations the fan-bois think it is. Sure, it is marketed very well, but if you think it is the best in all areas, you've just marked yourself as someone who isn't a top notch professional: someone who actually knows what is out there and when which tool is the best tool to use for any given graphics operation.
There *is* a replacement for ignorance. But you have to work at it. - Philluminati, on 01/09/2008, -0/+7It's interfaces like this that make Gnome / KDE's multiple desktop feature completely invaluable.
- bejayel, on 01/09/2008, -0/+7I dont think Pixel is either. Just because it looks the same a little bit doesnt make it a suitable replacement.
- bejayel, on 01/09/2008, -3/+10@Ademan
If a single mono developer looks at any part of the .net code and then uses an idea from it for mono, then it is a copyright infringment and microsoft will shut down the mono project, or at least that part of the development. - bigtrouble777, on 01/09/2008, -0/+6I purchased a license for pixel last year and tried it out in linux and osx. I even wrote an amd64 howto in ubuntuforums. To be honest, I lost interest in pixel as gimp has gotten considerably better over the past 2 years. Gimp now supports a phenomenal selection tool and healing brush, two things that I have a hard time living with out.
The only two things that kills me with gimp is the lack of cmyk (if I ever need to do print work), and the lack of layer effects. I strongly prefer gimp to photoshop for web work, but to each his own. - prosayik, on 01/09/2008, -0/+6I bought a license for BeOS when it was beta back in the day when giant dot com saurians roamed the Earth.
- Elranzer, on 01/09/2008, -3/+9http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/mario
- thotpoizn, on 01/09/2008, -0/+6What is this movement, and how can I contribute to it while still giving those grouchy, elitist "it's fine the way it is!" bastards the raspberry?
- ArthurSucks, on 01/09/2008, -0/+6I've been sitting on the license for so long I'm now damn good at the GIMP. What the hell?!
- iRelinquish, on 01/09/2008, -2/+8I have been using the gimp for photo editing on ubuntu.
Although, i often find my self getting pissed off at the program b/c im so used to photoshop.
I can't wait to give pixel a try : ) - jehnidiah, on 01/09/2008, -1/+7Umm... What about gimpshop? That's the best Photoshop-looking image photo editor out there. http://www.gimpshop.com
- Eevee, on 01/09/2008, -0/+6Fork and change the interface?
- bejayel, on 01/09/2008, -6/+12The interface is what really bugs the hell out of me in the gimp. Its too hard to find what you want and it doesnt feel like you are working with one program. I hate the multiple windows ***** in gimp
- skyshock1, on 01/09/2008, -4/+10http://www.mininova.org/tor/748721
http://torrents.thepiratebay.org/3731488/Pixel_1.0 ...
Just sayin'. - Ranvier, on 01/09/2008, -1/+7For a majority of users who crack PS without need, its a perfectly suitable replacement.
Now, on a professional level, it is not on par. - aladrin, on 01/09/2008, -0/+5Seems to have everything except Wacom support... Too bad that's a good portion of why I want Photoshop.
- bjornski, on 01/09/2008, -2/+7I'm on Windows, and I use Paint.net all the time.
I have Photoshop on my machine, but why load it when I can already be mostly done with my image by the time PS loads?
Paint.net rocks, and if Paint-Mono is as good, well yes, I'd recommend it hands down. - bjornski, on 01/09/2008, -0/+5Pixel Nuke'em Forever!
- inactive, on 01/09/2008, -0/+4And you didn't try the CMYK plugin?
- bjornski, on 01/09/2008, -1/+5It just works!
- speedeep, on 01/09/2008, -0/+4If you are interested in RAW photo processing on Linux, check out Bibble Labs' product offerings. Affordable, high-performance, and they produce really nice results. Linux, Mac and Windows versions available. Bibble Lite or Bibble Pro ($70-$130) at http://www.bibblelabs.com/ No affiliation, just a customer.
- dinostabOMG, on 01/09/2008, -1/+5What do you use it for? Nothing too complicated I imagine?
- directrix13, on 01/09/2008, -0/+4It shouldn't though. It should if people expect an all volunteer team to outperform a paid team. But free software is free only in the sense that the code is accessible to everyone. Many OSS projects have paid programmers. People that can bring a project more inline with what a company needs.
Honestly, I think the fact that people think that these programmers shouldn't be paid is the main problem. If your company has a long running contract with some software company, you are paying for development costs + overhead many times over. If your company makes strategic alliances with other companies and hires a dev team to sponsor an open source project, you will only get more money spent on the actual programmers/program and not as much on the cruft and you will get volunteer devs to take the project in new un-thought of ways. AND you only pay once for a feature. Open source software development is really a gold mine waiting to be tapped IMO. Software should be a tool not a product. - mossblaser, on 01/09/2008, -1/+5I would guess that the GIMP does more than you even know photoshop does so I'd stfu if i were you. Most digg users who cling to photoshop have pirated it and just use the leveling tools and crop and thats it. GIMP can do that its just different. Get over it.
- schotty, on 01/10/2008, -0/+4I am dead serious here, I am surprised that this has not occurred already. Why Red Hat or Novell hasn't forked it and sat down and made a PS clone with the existing GIMP code is beyond me.
- shakin, on 01/09/2008, -1/+5Most people who aren't professional graphic designers pirate Photoshop and most of those people don't use nearly all of Photoshop's features. While I don't think Pixel is very good, I do think there is room for a cheap or free alternative that may not be suitable for professionals, but is great for people wanting to touch up their photos, do some web graphics, etc. I think Gimp is good enough, and so would a lot of other people if it had a more Photoshop-like UI, but I also like Paint Shop Pro and I think Krita will be good once it's more mature.
- ArcOrion, on 01/09/2008, -0/+4My, that's an acute angle you have there.
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