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- Macuyiko, on 10/10/2007, -1/+52I seem to be one of the few people who like the Pidgin GUI: simple and to the point... I agree with the features however. Better support for MSN would be a nice start.
- tiax, on 10/10/2007, -2/+36yes. please.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -18/+52Each updated version of Pidgin is a bugfix release. I'm sick of it. I want NEW features, the project seems to be STUCK since ever. It feels so '98 and the GUI need to be rehaulted. They must learn something from the Adium developers.
- slamtv7, on 10/10/2007, -1/+24I actually really like pidgin the way it is. Maybe because I use it for mainly business contacts. But the simplicity is great. If your looking for a full fledged MSN messenger pidgin is def. a long way away from that, but if you have a lot of contacts that you just do business with, or more toned down chatting it's great.
- aptmunich, on 10/10/2007, -0/+17Plus to be fair, Adium relies on the work done by the Pidgin team as it takes care of all the connections to the various IM services. So they can spend all their time working on the additional stuff that makes Adium so great.
- NikoKun, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15When will they add support for MSN's status message?
- MBHoy, on 10/10/2007, -3/+16I wholeheartedly agree. And have brought it up on #pidgin (irc.freenode.net) many a time, but the Pidgin developers have the "if you want a feature, learn to code and put it in yourself" mentality some of the most annoying developers out there do, it's a shame for such a nice little project. I mean, I can see where they're coming from, but not everyone out there can code, and I think I speak for all of us out here when I say I'd rather have bleeding edge yet slightly unstable features than a rock solid yet featureless and ugly program.
- MBHoy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11My apologies for the double comment.
+ Remember, Pidgin isn't only MSN, although that's what you may use it for. aMSN doesn't have the support for AIM, ICQ, Jabber/XMPP, Yahoo!, Bonjour, Gadu-Gadu, IRC, Novell GroupWise Messenger, QQ, Lotus Sametime, SILC, SIMPLE, MyspaceIM or Zephyr. - MBHoy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12When they merge MSNP15 in. MSNP14 was scheduled to be merged some months ago, but the lazy developers never got around to it (not a huge shock). It's still marked as MSNP14 Branch Merge at pidgin.im, but it's actually P15, and when it goes in, you'll get full personal message support.
- tiax, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11please fix privacy on icq already.
- mcmlxxii, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11amsn might be ***** ugly (no offence intended) but it makes pidgin look like the poor relation when it comes to features and usability.
- cdmarcus, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10Adium is awesome, and I wish either the Pidgin developers would try to catch up with them, or the Adium developers would release a Linux/Windows version. The problem is, Pidgin doesn't have to compete with Adium because they don't really overlap platforms, and Adium depends on Pidgin for providing the IM backend that they use. As for Pidgin being a step backward from AIM, I disagree... AIM annoys the hell out of me, and I find Pidgin much nicer, better looking, and easier to use.
- elvenseven, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10pidgin please put mail notification sound!
- Rice, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10Adium is, ultimately, the shiz.
- MBHoy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8I'm looking forward to MSNP15 merges, which should bring some great features, but these little bugfix releases aren't much to get excited over. Having said that, there are some nice little changes this time.
- scottauth, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9I've been looking for a new AIM client on my PC. I tried Pidgin a few weeks ago, but it honestly feels like a step backwards from AIM. There are some nice features, but I use Dead AIM on top of AIM and I like it.
I really wish there was something similar to Adium X (Mac OS X) for the PC, that is my favorite IM client without a doubt. - Malachai, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7I wonder why the don't provide them on pidgin.im, too. But www.getdeb.net usually has a .deb within a few days.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Well, as loved as it is, it's still far from being ready for prime time. Until telepathy/empathy gets stables enough, pidgin will be the client of choice.
- cdmarcus, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7The fact is, they don't care how many people use it... unlike Ubuntu or Mozilla, they don't make any money off of Pidgin. If someone sponsored them or donated to them, I'm sure they'd be more willing to make their users happy, since they'd actually get paid for making a better product.
- jdhore1, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7First, Pidgin and Adium use the same backend (which is actually made by Pidgin), second, Pidgin devs have to do the hard work because they have to build a version for Windows and a version for Linux...Adium only have to build 1 version for OS X.
- MBHoy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5I hate to be the one that asks, but I don't really feel like compiling this on a Sunday afternoon, does anyone have a repository, or a .deb? Shame they don't provide them on pidgin.im.
- mcmlxxii, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Yes I appreciate pidgin has support for many different protocols, and it does use Gtk which helps it to blend into the desktop. Maybe time to try KDE and kopete.
- akkibaba, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7They aren't taking on an obligation to do anything. There's nothing that says that only the current developers have the right to work on the project. All the code is GPLed.
If you don't like what they're doing and would like to take the project in a different direction, you're more than welcome to do so. - Rabid_Llama, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Why do people digg this up? I love pidgin and all, but it has an auto-notify for updates, built right into the program. We don't need to waste front page space on stuff like this.
- cdmarcus, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4You can't expect them to package it for every OS... just compile it yourself, or look for the getdeb.net version.
- MBHoy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Kopete is a nice compromise. It has all of the main features, although it's not quite WLM-clone, like aMSN Is. It's nicer looking with nicer fonts, etc, but still has a bit of an ugly side.
It'll be in your repository, but only the bleeding edge has the features, they've started adding them recently: http://kopete.kde.org/ - cdmarcus, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6I don't know what you're talking about. Development was really slow up to version 2.0.0, because of the issues with AOL. Since then, they've been working on new features, and as a result, have accidentally put in quite a few bugs. Now they're fixing them, and that's a good thing.
As for the way it looks, I actually think that it looks fine. It's minimalistic, but that's what it's designed to be. I think it looks pretty good compared to the bloated, overdone UI's of the 1st-party clients. Also, the UI fits right in and is quite easy to use in a Gnome environment, where it was designed to be used.
Here's the thing. The developers make NO money off of Pidgin, and as such, aren't generally very willing to listen to their users. Big projects like Mozilla and Ubuntu HAVE to listen to their users, because they actually make money off of their products. Pidgin doesn't, and until someone or some company sponsors them, they're probably going to continue to develop the way they've been developing. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4That's a ***** excuse jdhore. Adium is GPL so the Pidgin developers could borrow some code from them, you know.
- MavRevMatt, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I've had that said to me too, and I find that just a stupid mentality if they want the app to get any more usage.
- helfire, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5Adium just updated to 1.1.3 with libpurple 2.2.1 (these fixes). Good work both Adium & Pidgen teams!
- goffy59, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Well this is awesome. I love Pidgin/Gaim, best chat program in the world! I will never touch another chat program again. AIM Triton(*****), Trillian(cost money for the good one), icq(*****), and the list goes on. Plus Pidgin/gaim have more functionality then any other chat program and its cross platform compatible.
- Macskeeball, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3@rpgmaker Adium makes heavy usage of Mac OS X only APIs such as Cocoa.
- rulus, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3We have mailnotification for that.
- iofthestorm, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4He's saying that instead of complaining, do something. At the least you could write a patch that changes something you want changed, like the guy who brought back protocol icons for 2.2.0.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5No one sponsor the Adium project and still is years ahead of Pidgin.
- Tenoq, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Great idea - but I'm not good at getting the other 100 contacts on my list to boycott MSN as well. So while I could switch to Jabber, there would be no point because I couldn't talk to anyone. :p
- Tenoq, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Miranda native Linux port. It's minimalistic design with feature adds by plugin is exactly what Linux needs - and suits the whole Linux philosophy. I'd pay to get Miranda working just like it does on Windows under Linux. That and a Truecrypt GUI. :P
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2SSL encryption to the aim servers like the aim lite client for windows does, please. no one wants their aim convos sniffed at a coffee house hotspot.
- goffy59, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Can you log onto Xire/myspace/msn/yahoo/aim/icq/etc/etc/etc on the AIM client. Dead aim kind of sucks, because whenever aim updates, you have to wait for them to release an update. With GAIM/Pidgin it always works with no adds/no *****!
- searayman, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2bot no one seems to care abotu usign pidgins source to actually do this....
- searayman, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2i wrote an article about my complaints on pidgin which a lot of people flamed me for:
http://thelinuxmovement.blogspot.com/2007/07/my-fe ... - osbjmg, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Just VPN to home/work when you are out and about - that way you don't leave any application out.
- phinn, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Yea amazing how the Windows users get it first while we gotta wait for the debs to go up. It only Linux could have a unified packaging system....
edit: and yes I know I can compile it myself but its not worth the trouble - ZachS, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2DeadAIM is.. well.. dead... There hasn't been any development on it for years. The support forums are just spam.
- Iam9376, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2pidgin-encryption.sf.net
- MBHoy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Agreed, especially when your business wants to communicate with people on numerous services, and one program allows you do do that. That really attracts me to Pidgin, one huge contact list between my single MSN Messenger account, two XMPP accounts and IRC account. Oh, and now MyspaceIM.
- sremick, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Or you could just boycott MSN like the rest of us do.
Choosing alternative software and yet going with Microsoft's IM network seems to contradict. There are better networks out there run by companies less-evil than MS, or run by no company at all (Jabber). - Gavagai80, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Then just use Kopete or Trillian, because you're not the target audience of pidgin.
- Macuyiko, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I definitely agree. But here in western Europe (Belgium, the Netherlands,...) MSN has a pretty big market share. There are even people still signing up for Windows Live Mail.
- rednaxela, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2fixing the chat window placement would be nice, i have the plug-in to move it to wherever but it's kinda a pain to have to fix every time I want to change location.
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