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- subscriber, on 10/12/2007, -5/+106"They rebooted the aircraft in midair" ... copilot to captain: "I know we're behind schedule, but no more overclocking!"
- keng, on 10/12/2007, -3/+48looks more like their inflight entertainment system than anything vital (unless it was a long flight, then those things can be indispensible).
- Sparklehorse, on 10/12/2007, -1/+37At least it wasn't an airplane crashing while running linux.
- senfo, on 10/12/2007, -14/+43The subject of this post is a bit misleading. It's not really fair to say that Linux crashed, because it's obviously a hardware issue. Most operating systems would behave similarly if they suddenly lost the ability to read/write from their primary storage device. In fact, Linux was still running and attempting to correct the issue, itself.
- TheBeaver, on 10/12/2007, -3/+27yeah, it's a little misleading to say they rebooted "the aircraft" in mid air.
- hexix, on 10/12/2007, -5/+25ryanrk:
The point is, this is not a picture of linux crashing. It is a picture of linux booting. And the caption states they were having problems and rebooted. So that could mean they were just having strange behavior and decided to reboot, it does not imply a crash.
Don't get me wrong, it's possible for linux to crash, but this is not a picture of linux crashing. Not quite the same as getting a picture of a blue screen of death. This would be the same as taking a picture of windows booting on a computer because the staff decided it was acting strange so they turned it off and back on. - ryanrk, on 10/12/2007, -9/+28However if that was Windows you would just say it was the OS and how it sucks. We can say the same thing it was hardware and not software.
- Udon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15This happens very often. Very normal and obviously completely harmless. Some personal in-flight entertainment (IFE) systems are prone to crashing when many people are fast forwarding or rewinding at the same time. In some cases you need to boot the whole cabin's IFE system - sometimes only within the separate classes such as economy and business.
- chicken101, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14Still, it's interesting to see, considering we've all seen so many pictures of windows crashing in airports/kiosks ect.
- jiminoc, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12this is what I work on full time now :)
in flight entertainment systems on linux, its crazy the tech that goes into these systems.
The main system is completely seperate, this is just the IFE system which is not connected to the main system but receives data about the system. - starbirix, on 10/12/2007, -5/+16Dugg, only to be fair.
At least it's not a spinning beach ball on everyone's screens. - DnH500, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13Well its linux... I did not think a title like "hardware crash on airplane" would be sufficient. But point taken anyways.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Will your work ever filter into mainstream distros making linux more viable as an entertainment option
- mfearby, on 10/12/2007, -13/+22@ryanrk: at best, Windows flicks tiny crumbs of information off its humungous banquet plate whereas Linux really does tell you exactly what's going on. Windows is blamed for most hardware problems because the OS is too secretive and won't tell you a damned thing. If Windows hides information from the user, then as far as I'm concerned, Windows deserves the blame.
- rpdillon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9This doesn't appear to be a crash. The photo doesn't offer too many details, even in its highest resolution version, but the ""bad direction" error is apparent. It doesn't have to do with disk issues as the summary indicates.
That error is associated with svc, and is most often a result of the network configuration of other computers on the network with the Linux computer. Certain types of broadcast messages will generate this error, which is most often seen in /var/log/messages (not often on the boot screen). Which is another point: this doesn't look like a crash at all, since the computer has obviously not even booted yet.
My best estimate using data from the article is that the machine hung during boot due to improperly configured network and no one fixed the issue for about 20 minutes.
Anyway, the problem is solved most all the time by configuring the network correctly on the other machines, or, if that is not possible, setting IPTables to filter the offending traffic. In any case, it seems to be quite rare.
Good photo, at any rate. - GrinningFool, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10I recall seeing some screen shots of "windows crashes" that were actually application and/or hardware issues. At least folks are equal-opportunity in their ignorance.
- LoungeActx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8amen to that..the language used to describe the article made it seem that way.
- lordhits, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10This is most definitely a reboot of the in flight entertainment system. It happened to me on a South African Airways flight. Airbus A360.
- GrinningFool, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9Also, I agree with parent -- looking closer, I see no actual error message. Just a reboot screen, which was done (it sounds like) deliberately.
- strictnein, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Windows (well, at least Windows XP embedded) can not be used for aviation purposes.
- Jams, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8@mfearby
Use the Windows kernel debugger.. - drlog, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I have seen this screen before on a flight. It is just booting linux...big deal?
Well, the "big deal" is that it took so long to boot. From what I can see, it looks like some hardware was missing and that was causing the error to display. I wouldnt call this a "crash" but more of an error message...depending on the way you look at it :D
Cool pic though - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6This looks like a simple re-boot, not a kernel panic. Usually kernel panics don't have the Tux logo at the top... lol.
- boohiss, on 10/12/2007, -7/+11If it was Windows I bet you would want to digg it multiple times.
- cjonpayne, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Indeed, when I went to see "V for Vendetta" on Saturday night, all the LCD TVs that the movie theater usually used to advertise popcorn and drinks were instead showing the Windows blue screen of death. Only later did the irony occur to me that this was the first time in years that I had actually bought any concessions at a movie theater, which I go to quite often. Maybe it was because the BSOD kept me from realizing just how much I was getting ripped off!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Yeah, that's definiately fair... Linux never slows down, has problems, crashes, churns, or needs an appropriate amount of memory to function well.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -10/+14I hate how even when linux crashes the photo's owner STILL says he'd rather have a crashing linux box than MS's OS, and this form an Ubuntu user.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9That little logo in the top-left looks spookily like the old AOL one :)
That is till you zoom in, then its clearly Tux. - jasqwerty, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Stop it from restarting on faults then, duh?
Just because you're too stupid to use a tool correctly doesn't mean the tool sucks. - nograz, on 10/12/2007, -9/+12Like already pointed out, to be fair, it is a hardware issue. And, linux is handling it better than Windows would be.
Also, if jiminoc is really what he said. Sounds like this is a highly customized system. - nugget, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3ya, a title like "Hardware crash on an airplane" might freak me out.
- bdxphoenix, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I'm not an expert with linux but isn't the message only saying that it can't seem to connect to the HTTP server or file server to get the information requested? It isn't 127.0.0.1, although I can't safely assume that localhost isn't something else it looks like it can't connect to another server on the airplane for information requests
- paolonorte, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4's funny, the 'inflight entertainment system' on many airplanes is still just a vhs player. You can tell when they hit pause. I'm certain that the nav systems on the plane have to be on proprietary hardware with failsafes built in.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3ryanrk, windows won't give almost any valuable information and it probably would freeze or show BSOD. Oposite to linux witch trys to continue working.
- Dwebtron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3yeah, i saw this years ago too...
- mcdpa, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5sounds interesting.... can you tell us more about the software your using?
- azar, on 10/12/2007, -9/+12LOL at you mac/linux heads that are giving my previous comment negative diggs because I am saying something pro-microsoft. But what about this fact: I do not even own an x86 computer. All I own is a mac, which dual boots OS X Tiger and Linux, of which I am completely happy with both. All of you that thumbs-downed my comment are apple/linux whores who think they are cool because their OS of choice is so underground and not mainstream. Get a ***** life.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I hope the in-flight *navigation* system isn't running Linux!
- WalterDirt, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I love this general assumption that linux is infallable.
- DeadPain, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7@ Arch
haha Its funny 'cause its not true, Linux handles Hardware failures (or changes) way better than Windows, I can take a HD with Linux installed in it and put it in another computer and the only problem I may have would be the video resolution which can be easily fixed, but if I try to do that with windows it will not even boot. - scarolan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Meh, those screens only show movies and a little diagram of the plane's current location. I seriously doubt they are tied into the plane's mission-critical navigation systems. Funny nonetheless!
- MaoSca, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@ ratbaqu
I wish I could say the same thing, unless the new PC you are placing the HD has the same hardware as the old PC it will not boot or in the best case scenario you will get the BSOD a lot. - pgm_01, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The first line is:
mkdir /
Further down it says
default_packet_size=1760
default_delay_packet=2500
It appears that something was trying to load and actually did cause a problem in the kernel but it is not really a crash. I would guess it is a problem with the network. What I really want to know if it plays DVDs and if so, how? I guess it is because Air Algerie doesn't have to follow the DMCA. - Darkelysium, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Actually its pretty common on the airbus line, there is a glitch in the games on demand section of their entertainment where if your playing bejewelled or caveman and try to quit out at certain times it freezes the system. I had it happen to me on my flight to paris 2 weeks ago. They usually only have to reboot specific seats but in our case they had to reboot the system. This is because when they rebooted my seat they inadvertantly gave me control over every seat in my section and i could alternate between each seat and stop movies, fast forward, end games, start music and well wreak havoc lol. It was rather fun after i realized what i was doing. They caught me when other passengers in our section started complaining about problems with the video on demand system. Anyways i thought i might share that lol.
- MrPenguin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Nice, I didn't know it was my mate Tux showing all those movies. Though the submitter had me a little confused at first. I was picturing the plane plummeting and then they are sitting at the cli typing "telinit 6..oh wait.. log in as root...." then the plane jerks upright and flies merrily on it's way lol (Like Bart Simpson and his Gameboy, "Turn it back on! Turn it back on!!"). Still, neat shot.
- theantidote, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2If you were wondering Dell doesn't actually make hard drives so no need to blame them.
- Jams, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Can only swap the HDD if the system uses the same HAL
- tarball, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4At least when Linux crashes it gives you some clues as to why it crashes.
My WinXP box at work reboots itself when I remove my USB flash drive (yes I do the 'remove safely' stuff). I have no idea why it does this, Linux on the same box handles the removal of the USB drive fine. - bigkm, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4the artical makes it sound like everyones life is at risk rebooting a entertainment sysatem in mid air.
- williamhelmick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2that's what I was saying with my comment above, I'm not trying to make any statement either pro windows or pro linux. perhaps the people digging down the comment somehow think I'm trying to insult one or the other, which I'm not. I was merely saying how stupid it is to call linux "Redmond's finest," when everybody should know that Microsoft has nothing to do with linux.
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