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- ChromaVita, on 10/10/2007, -15/+62Could that video have been any more boring?
- bromac, on 10/10/2007, -7/+4199% of people use Photoshop to crop and resize photos. It doesn't make the rest of it bloat.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -11/+45I believe Corel Painter does something similar to this.
- OnoTadaki, on 10/10/2007, -29/+57Actually, Corel Painter does this EXACTLY, plus it has options to greatly enhance the palette function far beyond what this demo can. This is nothing but a blatant and poor rip-off of Painter as per usual with the open source community.
- BonhamsGhost, on 10/10/2007, -8/+33Honestly Corel Painter does this, they just claim to do it better and more accurately here.
Go to conceptart.org and I think you'll see Corels' method works just fine...... - eean, on 10/10/2007, -2/+26Krita is more a painting application then it is a photo editor. Its application is pretty obvious if you've ever tried to pick colors from just a color wheel when painting.
- dwbell, on 10/10/2007, -1/+24It works like an oil painters palette, not hard to imagine that people with a background in painting would find this very useful and natural.
- Cymrubeats, on 11/14/2007, -12/+34http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/297/image2rj1.jpg Paint Shop Pro X does it.
- REUYL, on 10/10/2007, -5/+26It could have been directed by Uwe Boll...
- pipitas, on 10/10/2007, -1/+21Here: http://commit-digest.org/issues/2007-08-12/ is a directly working link for the background info about this new color/paint mixing software...
- livevil, on 10/10/2007, -3/+20Becareful you're surrounded by Apple zombies.
- codyfrisch, on 10/10/2007, -1/+17well something like this is actually useful from an artists perspective. if you're painting with various colors this easily lets you mix visually the colors you're using together. Doing that using a HSL/RGB based tool is difficult to say the least to blend colors together in varying amounts to create well what looks like painting.
- bieber, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15Read the background article. The point is that simply using colors' RGB values can't possibly let you mix them the way physical pigments actually combine. Unfortunately, you can't reduce all that math to just "set layers to multiply..."
- jesstech, on 10/10/2007, -3/+17ArtRage.
- theblt, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14Photoshop isn't bloat if you actually use the features as intended. Those who buy/pirate Photoshop to do just those 2 tasks are wasting their own time.
- superstoned, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14No, corel painter can't do this. Read the article. Krita is the first (though it's not released) which can do actual, reflection-based color mixing.
- KAMiKAZOW, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15That's wrong. It's not about paint mixing in general, but about the Kubelka Munk algorithm. If you had read the commit-digest.org link posted above, you'd know that.
- superstoned, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12the point of what krita did is that it actually is acurate, real-world. that's a first...
- smackhero, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14have you used real paints before? you clearly haven't because mixing colors using real mediums isn't the same as color blending using light. you're using subtractive mixing, not additive mixing, and the results on the krita demo are the most realistic simulation of subtractive mixing i've seen in any program.
mixing complementary colors causes a decrease in saturation whenever you use physical pigments such as paint. maybe you should actually try mixing paint yourself and see what results you get before commenting on how "off base" the program appears to you. here's a hint: research the difference between additive and subtractive color systems. - cynicist, on 10/10/2007, -6/+18Sorry, but the submitter does not represent "the linux community".
- Slacker1031, on 10/10/2007, -28/+40both photoshop and corel can do this. infact, it's quite a useless feature anyway, because the point of mixing colors in the first place is to produce a new color, a new color which already exists on the photoshop and corel color pallete. This is really useless eyecandy for the linux community to say "this is something nobody else is doing." and to an extent they are right, nobody else is wasting time making useless features to paint programs.
- dystopianray, on 10/10/2007, -3/+14Corel and Photoshop do have similar tools but what they don't have is the new mathematical colour model that is being used in Krita to make paint mixing significantly more realistic.
- smackhero, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10when i was studying color theory i actually tried to come up with formulas for mixing two colors in RGB color space, and it's a lot more complicated than just using multiply. in fact there are no blending modes in photoshop that replicate what's being done in this video.
- pak314, on 10/10/2007, -7/+17What about an iphone unboxing video?
- masterc, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9This might be useful for my color theory class...
- KAMiKAZOW, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Please read the article next time. It's linked in the first comment. It's about the used algorithm, not colour mixing in general. The author says that Krita is the first mainstream application (aside from non-mainstream research projects) that implents the Kubelka Munk algorithm that gives more acurate results.
- smackhero, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8exactly what features on photoshop are bloat in your opinion?
- KAMiKAZOW, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Emanuele Tamponi, the author of Krita's colour mixing feature, never claimed that Painter doesn't have colour mixing. He just says that he implented a more acurate algorithm originaly developed by Kubelka and Munk and later refined by Duncan.
- smackhero, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8just because you don't know how to use a particular filter doesn't make it useless/bloat. i use photoshop pretty frequently, and even though i rarely touch certain functions i'm not so arrogant as to presume that i'm the be all, end all paragon of graphic design. after doing graphic design for several years i'm still finding tutorials on the internet that show me uses for filters that i'd never thought of before. most of them are pretty basic general image processing algorithms. it's not like they're plugins that are only used for specific effects.
once again, name one that is superfluous in your view to back up your point. - markstory, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8If only it were that simple. I've used traditional media for years, and painter gets close, krita looks a little closer. But pigments mix far more differently than RGB values do. If you have some paint lying around mix some burnt sienna with an ultramarine blue. Then do the same with simillar colour values in an RGB space, the results will be so different that your resulting RGB colour is a muddy vomit tone, while the pigments maintains a warm subdued violet. Made my transition from traditional to digital media take a long time. Its so much more complex than set to multiplty.
- KAMiKAZOW, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8No, Corel Painter uses another algorithm, not Kubelka Munk. Read http://commit-digest.org/issues/2007-08-12/ for more info.
- KAMiKAZOW, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Um, yes. Unlike you. If you had done any research, you would know that Painter and Photoshop don't use the Kubelka Munk algorithm.
- Theli, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6"set layers to multiply"
And that would do what exactly?
Colors would only blend where the 'paint' of the two layers intersect and the brush would not gradually change its color based on the background.
The only thing you will accomplish is the color mixing effect (which will require a lot of tweaking to get right). - nxtwrld, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6creating and mixing complementary colors to existing ones in an image is quite a science. Basically it's something only a few people can mix these color from scratch - these tools come quite handy when trying to achieve at least some color balance.
The fact, that you do not know how to use these tools properly does not make them useless... - superstoned, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6The 'new' here is that this mixing algorithm, based on a lot of research, is much more acurate than any other app on the market.
- dlinkwit27, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8But has anyone? No, and that's the point.
- superstoned, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6The point of this article is that finally, for the first time in a painting app soon-to-be-released, an acutally ACURATE algorithm to mix and blend colors is implemented. Not that blending isn't done before, it just was never done acurately. Read the article before you comment, please.
- ilovenicotine, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5If by "*****" you mean "you", I just did.
- bromac, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8Because that's clumsy.
- darkmotion, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5I was thinking it would be a dandy tool that blends whilst you paint on canvas :(
- combatchuck, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5I have a background in painting. I hate sliders even more than I hate color wheels/triangles.
- superstoned, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Yeah, right. If you want to paint with real-life like paint using a tablet, the best application available right now is Krita-SVN. Photoshop, corel, whatever - they don't have something even half as accurate as this. Read before you comment...
- Magnes, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5The result is different.
- themilk, on 10/10/2007, -4/+9this is the kind of innovation i like to see. i have argued that programs such as gimp are poor imitations of programs like photoshop. I say why imitate when you can create something completely new. i would love to see linux used as a platform to create something totally new. also i wonder what type of support this program offers for pressure sensitive tablets.
- smackhero, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5actually, mixing physical pigments like paint/ink results in subtractive mixing. blending light is what causes additive mixing, which is what photoshop and most digital graphics programs perform. this feature is unique in that it perform realistic subtractive mixing which is rarely found on digital media.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5@sirhomer
The Apple zombies are the ones digging you up. - combatchuck, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4It's much more natural and fluid to mix colors in a palette than it is to pick them from a color wheel that includes all possible colors to distract you. I say this as a computer geek and a digital art hobbyist. If I had my way, there would be no buttons or palettes or dialogs. It's distracting and makes the creative process feel cluttered.
- thegenome, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5its really creepy how he leaves the mic on even though he doesnt say anything
- championchap, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5The idea of photoshop was always to be an image editor. And that's what it is, a fantastic one too.
But everyone uses it for creating digital paintings.. which it CAN do, but.. it's far from the best for it.
Painter is for digital painting
Photoshop is for image editing
It's pretty much in the names, so why must so many get it wrong?! - combatchuck, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4CMYK are primary pigments. The more pigments you add to a color mix, the darker it gets. Thus, subtractive color.
RGB are light. The more colors you add, the brighter it gets. Thus, additive color.
Red, blue, and yellow are the primary colors to a school child, (imo) mostly because it's easy to remember.
There is a reason professional printers use cyan, magenta, yellow, and black. -
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