- jasonmantey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0They are going to horribly blow this. It will be incredibly proprietary (though linux) and I think that the open source community (their best customers) will feel used when they let this out. Just imo.
- bluffcityjk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'll stick with Familiar and Opie on my iPaq, thanks.
- patricks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Explain to me exactly what about this will be proprietary? ALP will be based on a linux kernel (completely open source) and the Gnome Tool Kit for the interface (completely open source).
- robbyt, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6you're = you are
your = possessive - lilazndrumrboy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0hmm........not much imagination, eh?.........
- Ultim8Fury, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0About time palmOS went linux.
- Elleo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2PalmOS have stated that they're not going to follow Motorola's bad example, and are going to make sure the APIs for development are open and readily available. (Source: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/02/14/palmsource_linux_alp/ )
- brandon20, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0your right, my bad
- JesseH, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0That is sad for all of us Palm OS fans. Guess the Treo 700 Palm version will never live to see the light of day. ;(
- mrkoffee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0If they handle it like Sharp handled the linux-based Zaurus, then the handheld will run Linux, but the desktop synchronization software will only run on Windows or Mac.
- Sirfrummel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"let you're imagination drive your comments"
... I imagine a utopian envioronment, where the sky is an ever-changing set of psychedelic colors, everyone is happy, fruit juice is abundant, and everyone will be effortlessly communicating back and forth through linux-powered devices. - ascheinberg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Why would they get rid of a brand name like Palm and use a new stupid, unmemorable acronym?? Silly!
- TheD, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'll stick with saying "I'll stick with".
- patricks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Clearly the acronym is just a temporary nomer.
- Slipdisc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It's about time. Palm was a very popular OS for handhelds but I never really cared for it. Although I know many did.
- SidewalkPilot, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Let's give thanks to the Jesus.
- NoThnMoreAB, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Tell the truth... this doesn't excite me. I had a Windows mobile sprint phone that went bad by way of falling to it's death on the sidewalk... it was promptly replaced by Lock/Line with a Treo 600... which promptly died. Four Treos later and i'm really begining to desire a switch back to a good flip phone. Thus being done with having to pay exuberant fees for any apps worth a crap and a two handed plastic stone that reboots nonstop and crashes all the damn time. IMO... Palm or AL(whatever the hell) can kiss my ass.
- usergentoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0its good to see linux used on more products
it makes linux a better product the more developers have to write software for it and fix bugs - Elleo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"If they handle it like Sharp handled the linux-based Zaurus, then the handheld will run Linux, but the desktop synchronization software will only run on Windows or Mac."
QTopia Desktop (the synchronisation software for the Zaurus) is available for Linux: http://www.trolltech.com/products/qtopia/desktopdownloads.html - Sabot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Man the spelling police are out in force. Why don't you guys just go work on the spelling for your favorite Wikipedia page and leave us alone.
Now it really is MS against GNULinux in the hand held world. This should be fun. - Adamesq, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Move in Apple! Move in! Revenge of the Newton!
- bieber, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Yay. I've previously never even considered getting a handheld, because I won't use proprietary software, and guess what all the mobile OS's are. But now, just maybe one of these days I'll get a Palm.
- nicarley, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0So can we get some source to BEOS Yet?
- ryanknapper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Totally. Free BeOS!
/fanboy - abid786, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Honestly, this should be old news. When the Access deal was completed, we knew that Palm OS Linux was coming out at one time or another. This is not surprising news to me.
- riskin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The frustrating thing is that they aren't using the code base from BeOS, which Palm purchased several years ago. Why use Linux when the Be code would fit so well with the usage of a handheld computing device? It was designed for media processing, which is the direction toward which handheld computing is moving. I'm all for Linux, but use it where it makes sense.
- palmdoc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The 6 million dollar question is will Palm (the hardware Co) use PalmOS-Linux?
- hordak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Wow. Rip PalmOS. :(
- sremick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0As a Palm-owner of many years, now on a T3 and loving it, I'll be interested to see how this turns out.
- ollywompus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Blah, all bow before mighty Symbian!
-olly - Permanent4, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Dudes, the Treo 700p isn't dead. ALP won't actually be on any Treos or PDAs until 2007. Palm isn't going to sit on the 650 and 700w for a full year.
- mrblogadise, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0See ya, wouldnt wanna be ya. I have had Palmos devices since the first handspring visor. The os never evolved to fit the times.
The best thing about the Palm vs windows handhelds was always bettery life. Let's see how linux competes with windows on the battery life issue. And what happened to the symbian os handhelds that were supposed to be everywhere by now? Are they still living happily in Asia? is symbian dead outside of phones? - veritech, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The sad thing is (at least until some nice person changes it) that folks with older palm devices won't be able to get access to this desperately needed upgrade. Any one who's used palm os 5.4 knows what i mean. Hopefully the palm Linux project will enable us to run palm Linux devices native on our current hardware.
T|X fan boy - ollywompus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"is symbian dead outside of phones?"
HANDHELDS are dead outside of phones... the market for a standalone handheld is going to be nil in the next 5 years IMHO.
-olly - samdu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0As a Zaurus owner for several years (SL-5500 and REALLY wishing I could get my hands on an SL-6000 for less than an arm and a leg), this is outSTANDing news.
- jedeye, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Move in Apple! Move in! Revenge of the Newton!"
RIM are in trouble, PalmOS is dying a death and PocketPC sucks!
I agree, please apple join the race!
Although it would be nice to see some Linux handheld's to take the Zaurus's place. - drawkbox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0this will only give MS the ability to take the market like they have before. Blackberry and Palm in trouble when windows Mobile is launching strong with the Treo 700. Brace yourself for more MS control.
- trogdoor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Well I guess I am the only one with an imagination her but here goes:
This will be a hit and it will be for desktop Linux what the ipod was for Apple. People will love the interface and extendability / customizability so much that they will want it on their computer. Then when the noobs find out that palm has ported this new great operating system to regular computers (face it, that is probably what they will think Linux is), and it's free! they will wonder why anyone ever paid for windows. Then, at the same time, there will be more commercial software being made for the palm devices and software developers will see how much better Linux APIs are and become familiar with the Linux kernel so they will start developing software for Linux. Linux will then become filled with bad proprietary software (and some small amount of good) but there will still be as much, if not more, open source.The difference will be that commercial software companies will be pushing hardware manufacturers to develop drivers so that they won't have to be reverse engineered. What will be left will be new more popular crap versions of Linux but we will still have the good versions we have now but with actual hardware support.
Never going to happen but I can dream can't I? - Dogmatix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@Olly,
Having designed/coded for both at the system level, Symbian is a toy by comparison with Windows Mobile. Symbian was designed for devices that weren't very capable and that is now showing, IMHO.
Symbian has just slashed licence fees by 2/3 to gain market share. It's only hope now it the idea that it can support multi-core based telephone designs. After that it has a neighbour called the Dodo.
I would imagine, that you disagree. - diggnationdevon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0That's stupid.
- mynameisob3l, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0let you're imagination drive your comments...
wow. ok. i am imagination. hmm... this is harder than it sounds. - ollywompus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"
Having designed/coded for both at the system level, Symbian is a toy by comparison with Windows Mobile. Symbian was designed for devices that weren't very capable and that is now showing, IMHO.
Symbian has just slashed licence fees by 2/3 to gain market share. It's only hope now it the idea that it can support multi-core based telephone designs. After that it has a neighbour called the Dodo.
I would imagine, that you disagree."
lol, you are correct, I do disagree. Other than syncing with M$'s own products (i.e. Outlook/Exchange/Etc), name me a function that Windows Mobile does that Symbian doesn't? Now, I'll be the first to say Windows Mobile is one of the only things to come out of Microsoft that has been a pretty decent product, but it doesn't do anything special over Linux or Symbian. Palm OS is dead, mostly because they never got around to making their OS multitask, but the other three are about on par with useability and functionality. I will always prefer Linux and Symbian on my handhelds, for a variety of reasons, but M$ isn't a terrible product.
As for the marketshare comment, depends on how you define handhelds. Are you talking strictly non-phone handhelds? Then yes, M$ dominates. Are you talking about smartphones? Symbian FAR dominates over anyone else (I think it's something like 70-80% of the smartphone market). But as I said previously, and I standby this, other than niche markets, the non-phone handheld is going bye-bye... the future is connectivity in our handhelds, and Symbian has far larger marketshare than anyone else in this arena.
-olly - hardkoretom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0who really cares? i sure dont
if it switches, that isnt incentive for me to drop my dell x51 for it - spress, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'm still using my Handspring Visor (Palm OS 3) since 2000 -- my iPod can hold contacts and calendars, but not other utilities or apps -- a database, for example.
Access's original press release is here:
http://www.access.co.jp/english/press/060214.html


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