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- dharm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5it is somewhat expected... if you have looked at any oracle documentation or official learning material (oracle university course materials), all of the stuff is in bash shell syntax (the CLI stuff that is)
- rebrad, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1Maybe that's why he was canned. Ellison was an *****. I hope he rots in retirement.
- GeekyGirl, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6It was good to see that this strong preference for Linux usage internally at Oracle is not driven as a cost savings move.
Jesper Anderson, Oracle's Sr. VP for application strategy, also pointed out that "the service component of our software business is increasingly important. The maintenance revenue of our business is a bigger and bigger part of our business." This seems to be part of why they see open source as an opportunity for them.- raynevandunem, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Besides cost savings, I think that Linux (and other open source enterprise stuff) will offer Oracle a much greater chance of control over their own products, rather than having to stick with the Windows standard (which is held by an avowedly rival company), so I would say that there is a matter of pride involved here.
Given the huge press about Oracle's relationship with Linux, and the fact that Oracle, a database company (and the second largest software company in the world) is even involved in a satisfactory relationship of any kind with the Linux world, I guess it would be safe to say that this proves that Linux, after all is said and done, is an OS for servers primarily and exclusively.
Besides, why do you think that it continues to make the booting noise after it has booted on a PC (just like it does on a server, only that its supposed to do that on a server and NOT a PC)?
Go React OS!
- raynevandunem, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Besides cost savings, I think that Linux (and other open source enterprise stuff) will offer Oracle a much greater chance of control over their own products, rather than having to stick with the Windows standard (which is held by an avowedly rival company), so I would say that there is a matter of pride involved here.
- monolith, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4This is good n all... but unfortunately it isn't because 'Larry' thinks Linux is better for this (I think it is). It's because 'Larry' is trying to put the scare into Red Hat for some stupid reason. He actually thinks that his problems with open source databases will be solved by intimidating his partners. Sorry Larry, your problems with open source databases (and middlleware, and web portals, and whatever else Oracle sells) will only be solved by going Open Source with YOUR products. Postgresql, Mysql, and others are catching up, it's only a matter of time before they are 'good enough'.
- MoeB, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3i think he just hates MS because oracle has been loosing market share to sql server 2005 for the past year due to lower costs. Oracle hates MS!
- lnxaddct, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Both Oracle and MS have been losing customers to MySql and PostgreSQL, I don't know of anyone in this day and age who looks at Oracle or MS anymore when they need a large enterprise class database. There are a few exceptions where I can see Oracle being a clear choice over going open source, such as to use their spatial support, but at the end of the day you're a fool to pay for Oracle or SQL Server unless you have very, very unique niche needs.
-Steve ( http://krenzel.info ) - RobGamble, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1SQL Server has been much less expensive than Oracle for many years. SQL 2000 was introduced at $25,000 / cpu where Oracle was $40,000/cpu. Oracle will run on more hardware and there's a huge and talented pool of developers to choose from but Microsoft has been creeping into Oracle's space for a long time now. That's likely to keep happening too.
- bcnewman, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1"I don't know of anyone in this day and age who looks at Oracle or MS anymore when they need a large enterprise class database."
Your joking right? - monolith, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3He must be joking... or not working in any real capacity with any enterprise class databases.... say anything more than a couple of hundred Gig in size...
- lnxaddct, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Both Oracle and MS have been losing customers to MySql and PostgreSQL, I don't know of anyone in this day and age who looks at Oracle or MS anymore when they need a large enterprise class database. There are a few exceptions where I can see Oracle being a clear choice over going open source, such as to use their spatial support, but at the end of the day you're a fool to pay for Oracle or SQL Server unless you have very, very unique niche needs.
- malliemcg, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2If I were a shareholder, I would be somewhat scared of Oracle's CEO (Larry Ellison) being fanatical in this fasion. While I have no issue with a company using a product for whatever reason, I do find fanatasism to be spooky.
- RomeyRome, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Resume sent...
- MoeB, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Resume denied!!!
- monolith, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4No! Even WORSE! Resume ACCEPTED!!!
- tmarc, on 10/12/2007, -12/+2larry elison is gay he doesn't send us oracle academy HS students all the free stuff we were promised
- ctheory, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2What. The. *****.
- gildude, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1As if the CEO of a company Oracle's size would EVER see a purchase order for any reason. There is no way he would ever even SEE one. Now, he may have directed underlings to deny them - but they would be several levels below him.
- Whiff, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Dude, too literal. The headline reflects his policy, not his actions.
- ctheory, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2So basically, he's looking at using linux now, and sounds like developing his own flavor, that he'll presumably try to force on people.
Greeeeeeeeeeeeeat. - mandarin, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Doesnt he usually focus on other pursuits like sailing and buying properties most of the time?
- leonbev, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4The article only said that all "mid-tier" database servers are supposed to run Linux now. I'd imagine that all of their really BIG databases (like 1 TB or better) are still being run on mainframes or giant Sun and HP servers.
- enzomedici, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3
I wouldn't really use mysql in a critical mission application or situation, like in a bank. Oracle provides enterprise features, like Flashback Query,Dataguard for Multiple Standby databases, RAC, inline object redefinition, Index Organized Tables, multiple ways to partition data, column level encryption, and on and on.
The real critical must have features are for disaster recovery and security. mysql is coming along nicely, but not
there yet. A few more years and some more enterprise class features and it will be there. - mandarin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Whats Oracle Academy?
- OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3I think it's a porn movie.
Sorry. I was thinking of Oral Academy.
- OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3I think it's a porn movie.
- google_bot, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1OMG. the site is taking forever to load.
Its CNET. did we kill it? - Zephiron, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0PT/BR: http://www.htk.com.br/noticia.php?noticia=575
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