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- bettermentflux, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Good article: Raymond... a co-founder of the Open Source Initiative and author of The Cathedral and the Bazaar, recently declared that if the Linux desktop is ever to grab a large share of the desktop market it must do it soon or it will never happen."
"If desktop Linux is to advance to a broader audience, it must work with iPods and other MP3 players, play DVD movies, view Windows Media and Quick Time content on the web, and so on. I wish users didn't require these proprietary formats, but it's naive and unrealistic to expect the masses to forgo these requirements in the near future. Linux must make some compromises to attract mainstream users." - bf01, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Can the Internet as a whole stop stroking Raymond's ego? He's not *that* impressive of a speaker, writer, or open-source advocate. Puhleaze.
- cybersamurai, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Raymond has the right idea and Freespire is a testament to that. The largest problem standing in the way of forward thinkers such as him are the companies that control the content they want to use. Apple is a great examle in that they don't want anybody to use files bought through iTunes anywhere else, even though you paid for the content.
- Sabot, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Have IQ's just dropped? When did giving into commercial software give Free Software anything? It is by rejecting commercial and fighting for Free Software that we have made our largest gains. Don't be fooled by the embrace and extend morons that are out there. It leads to one place: Lose of freedom!
- bigtomrodney, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I wonder which decision came first, using proprietary software or working for Freespire.
- GMorgan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Allow others formats to work well with OSS. To paraphrase someone rather important to computing business "I'd rather see people use proprietry formats on our predominantly open platform than see people use open formats on a predominantly closed platform". Just the same as Bill prefered to see people pirate Windows than legally use something else we must prefer an 'impure' use of OSS to use of Windows.
It's better to have 99% of people listening to MP3's in Linux than having 99% of people use OGG's on Windows and its certainly preferable to seeing 99% of people using MP3's on Windows. - vvvv, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Just what they need, more fat guys.
- deadbaby, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Who's stroking his ego? He's very rarely in the news. According to digg's (sucky) search engine there's been 4 stories about Raymond in the last 365 days. Compare that to 23423423 for Steve Jobs and 2983748347 for Bill Gates. Eric Raymond is equally as important as those guys to the open source movement.
- byte, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Ubuntu is in trouble. Free CNR? Freespire? Eric Raymond and Ian Murdock backing it all? Support for MP3, Windows Media, QuickTime, Java, Flash, Real, ATI drivers, nVidia drivers, proprietary WiFi drivers, modem drivers, fonts, and so on?
Edgy better be good Mark!!!!!
-- /usr/bin/byte - macewan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2so he did drugs once, most hackers have
- GMorgan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Thats inaccurate. He holds strong political beliefs but he is certainly not a moron. His contributions are certainly overstated and maybe his writting isn't as good as its made out to be but he speaks for a very important section of OSS none the less. However much the GNU centric people may not like it proprietry software has a place in this world of ours (albeit significantly diminished) and it only hurts us to not allow compatibility.
There are issues, some their fault and some ours but we need to deal with these issues rather than skirt around them. - edgrr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Eric Raymond has some non-standard religous views. Consider http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/dancing.html - choice quotes include: "That girl had been trying to cope with a theophany; she had looked at me and seen a god". And also: "That day I was reborn; from a skinny lame kid with a flute into a shaman and a vessel of the Goat-Foot God, the Piper at the Gates of Dawn, the Horned Lord".
- Lemi4, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Ahh, but will they shipit?
- aplusbi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It must work with iPods?
http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/eric-buys-an-ipod - zeruch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I have known ESR for several years (when he was on the board for VA Linux Systems), and I have to say this strikes me as just odd.
While I agree with the intent (get FOSS working with popular media devices and formats) I am not entirely sold on his arguments of having to capitulate to entities that may not serve the interests of FOSS and certainly still have a slightly romaticized idea that instead of simply playing catch up, that FOSS instead leaps over and creates the media (and other content) formats and software to power said media devices. - tgone, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Haters, Raymond is right. Consumers need an alternative to Mac OS and Windows. The only way this is going to happen is if the OS supports mainstream products and formats like the iPod and MP3. It's not rocket science.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4Eric Raymond is an moron.
- transeunte, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Oh, please. So you really think that the way to victory is not allowing Linux users to open MS Word documents?
I think that's very narrow-minded for someone who talks as a *Free* Software defender. - ChileanGoD, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Mostly games.
- Haydre, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Chicken and the egg all over again.
- infernon, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2ahem-- and games...
- lyamkaskade, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4"Guru"?
- ChileanGoD, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1Bury me... someone allready posted my comment.


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