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- DigitalJester, on 10/10/2007, -0/+28One more step in the right direction.
- geminitojanus, on 10/10/2007, -0/+27Allows for hardware accelerated video playback. It does scaling, color space transforms, etc in hardware so that the processor can do other things (like, for example, decoding the video).
- alexw, on 10/10/2007, -2/+24Because some people like to have a choice.
- praveenmarkandu, on 10/10/2007, -3/+21nvidia is blazing ahead of ati. im absolutely disappointed at ati linux proprietary drivers
after the amd-ati merger, both companies have fallen to new lows. - geminitojanus, on 10/10/2007, -6/+22Buried for patently obvious troll.
- dark_helmet, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15If you don't want to see linux stuff, don't read the linux topic.
- motang, on 10/10/2007, -2/+12Because people like to learn new stuff, and not have a stale experience using a computer.
- GMorgan, on 10/10/2007, -2/+12Buried for telling me why you buried it. Oh and being retarded, that too.
- c0ldfusi0n, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Nice. Take that, ATI.
- praveenmarkandu, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9you can still use compiz:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=488385 - FallOutBoyTonto, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't these open-source drivers not created by nVidia¿
So compairing these to ati proprietary linux isn't really fair, compair these to the open-source ati driver. But even then I don't know if its any better or not. - sq377, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9If you really dont want to read about linux news, then dont read the linux news. I for one am actually interested in seeing Nouveau's progress. Aso this is very little for Nvidia to stick in the nose of ATI. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but Nvidia isn't helping write these drivers, they assist only on the 2d driver (nv), so they get little praise on this. ATI wont even allow open source drivers of their newer cards to be released (written by independent developer).
- sq377, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6The hope is it will be. Nvidia's binary blob has had a couple security issues, which leaves the user troubled that they can't do anything about it. If everything is open source, there is always something that can be done. Also, the open source drivers (nv) have always been faster at rendering 2d than the proprietary drivers.
- polyGone, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5*ATI slave looks over at the Ohhh so green grass...........
- Xanium4332, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5you forgot one little fact. The open source drivers will work better than the proprietary versions. No need to bend your system in two just to get nvidia's drivers to work, in fact it will make most nvidia cards work great right out of the box...
- kingmoffa, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6This is welcoming news. I've not really tried the nouveau drivers as they have been far from incomplete. I have a couple of mythfrontend boxes with old nvidia cards i may try them out on that.
I wonder how the driver team are getting on with XVMC. - luciferin, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Sorry to double post, but did some looking around for you:
3 - The current specification for XvMC is considered not worth the amount of work required, as the XvMC interface is too limited to be useful with current video formats. A serious proposal (complete with acceptable code) to implement XvMC will not be turned down, though.
http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/FeatureMatrix - reqage, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4This ATI card is the last I'll ever buy unless they start supporting open source drivers. Only reason I went to ATI in the first place was due to the fact that I was fed up with the luck I was having with Nvidia cards. I had 3 7800GT cards (2 from XFX and 1 from EVGA) that died within 2 years of each other. The first two were within warranty but the last wasn't. Pissed me off just enough to switch and now that I'm running Ubuntu on several machines now with Fusion, I'll be switching back to Nvidia with the next upgrade.
- sq377, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Nobody requires this driver, it is just a huge improvement over using any binary blob. You ***** need to learn how to not read the linux section if you can't comprehend it.
- sqrt7744, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4You should really consider a career in stand-up comedy, that was great.
- 35263526, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3How are NVIDIA's linux drivers crappy? Generally there's feature parity between those and the Windows ones.
- Wyzard, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2PureVideo is hardware-based video decoding, right? I don't think Xorg supports that yet. There's XvMC for doing motion compensation in hardware, but AFAIK there's no way for Xorg to hand off the *entire* decoding task to the video driver. nVidia can't support PureVideo on Linux yet because there's no way to actually utilize it. (I believe this is being worked on by the Xorg developers, though.)
- dinostabOMG, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Me too. I didn't anticipate switching to ubuntu when I got my laptop, but it's pretty disappointing to not be able to use compiz now.
- OrangeTide, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2it's difficult for linux vendors to ship proprietary drivers because often the vendor has licensing restrictions that forbid the distribution of the binary only drivers without permission, and that they are only to be made available on the company's website. thus the real economic incentive for the community to produce open source drivers.
also it's a pain to deal with binary drivers if you're working on an overly new kernel, or if you have some unusual architecture. The last thing linux needs is one more reason for people not to test out new kernel versions. - disappointed, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1There may come a time when NVIDIA just give up on Linux drivers, in which case this project will take on a whole new importance. Right now, the drivers aren't much use but it's good that they exist.
- Gerz1219, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2The proprietary Linux drivers don't include a lot of the more advanced video acceleration features like PureVideo, and the 8000 series *still* suffers from the black window bug under Beryl/Compiz/Compiz Fusion. In addition, OpenGL performance in cross-platform games is often significantly lower compared to Windows. Ideally, there would be absolutely no performance hit in Linux. The drivers are unsatisfactory, and it's easy to see why -- there's no way Nvidia can justify spending the money optimizing them. This is why I think they should just open source as much as possible and let the community work out the rest. I just feel that trying to reverse engineer the drivers is a quixotic temper tantrum.
- solidsprite, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2So...is it better than the restricted nvidia driver???
- luciferin, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1I can't imagine to well, if they're even tackling it yet that is.
- Giga, on 10/10/2007, -3/+0There is a patent for being an obvious troll? I hope whoever owns that patent isn't a troll themselves...
- fourthtempleks, on 10/10/2007, -6/+2nvidia took a step in teh right direction by open sourcing the nforce network drivers. Id guess its because of all that proprietary directx implementation that is stopping them from open sourcing the video drivers... i absolutely hate the weak opengl support on consumer video cards. but whatever.. ***** monopolistic tyrannical jihad hardware developers. there should be a law that forces open standards, where everything is based on an open source kernel and the only layer is the window manager. seriously, life would be great if both vista and osx ran on the linux kernel and just developed window managers.. open standards for binaries and hardware. only if the government didnt have their thumbs up their ass.
- pcp777, on 10/10/2007, -9/+3Don't know How I'd live without XXX video...
- code2joy, on 10/10/2007, -7/+0Pretty cool how 0.001% of diggers will need this driver but it made the front page. You linux fanboys will change the world someday... when hell freezes over.
- praveenmarkandu, on 10/10/2007, -9/+1you can still use compiz:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=488385 - Gerz1219, on 10/10/2007, -11/+3This whole thing strikes me as a huge waste of time, of interest only to rabid ideologues. If Nvidia still releases such crappy Linux drivers with full access to the hardware specs, then it stands to reason that reverse-engineered drivers will always be significantly crappier. The Nouveau team really has no hope of meeting or exceeding the performance of the proprietary drivers, so they'll only ever be of use to people who care about principle more than performance. I think the energy would be better spent trying to get Nvidia to open up their drivers, or at least improve them. If they ever do, anyone who spent countless hours of their youth working on the Nouveau project is going to feel exceptionally silly.
- lead2thehead, on 10/10/2007, -12/+2Wow... stop the presses.
- Crazysah, on 10/10/2007, -15/+2What has become of digg? This is good though for Nvidia and a stick in the nose of ATI.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -18/+1Front page in under 35 diggs?
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -50/+3Buried as Linux. Why not just use Windows?
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