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- schestowitz, on 10/10/2007, -1/+21The days when non-gamers can kiss the binary blob goodbye are drawing near.
- larryni, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9The point is that you can output the video signal to your TV. Meaning you can for example watch your video files on your TV without having to burn them to a DVD.
- liquidjamm, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Too bad, Nvidia already got my money.
- gungaroo22, on 10/10/2007, -0/+530 bucks is SOOOO expensive man!! This'll stop EVERYONE
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814122221 - inactive, on 10/18/2007, -0/+5It is because this is the community-created open source driver, not the binary blob from ATI. That is why this was posted - as to feature the accomplishments of the open source ati community.
- tnoy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4You're supposed to buy hardware that Linux already works with, and not expect Linux to support the hardware you already have.
At least, thats the only reply I've gotten about something that is unsupported. - MasteRR, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Computer to TV is video out. The other way around is video capture and which most (probably none) video cards do not support so would require a separate video capture card.
- Giga, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Not sure whether I want to digg you up or down. On one hand, you carried on the tradition of blaming the users choice of hardware. On the other, you speak the truth about it being the main response.
- lampshade, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3This kind of thinking has to stop. I'm a GNU+Linux user and the President of a LUG. As a result, I run into this attitude all the time and it is a BAD attitude. If you get something to work on linux using a terrible, terrible hack or you get something to work with a lot less features and quality, YOU AREN"T REALLY GETTING IT TO WORK!
Apply the same attitude to cars. "Well, what is the news here? My car starts up. Granted you have to get out and put pieces together yourself and then kick it around and even then it still gets horrible mileage and doesn't start in the Winter--but hey it starts and that is all that matters"
yuck! - 9a3eedi, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3just that the opensource driver's 3D acceleration has crappy performance.. which makes me stick to fglrx
- dorianh49, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3str3ama, if your s-video-looking connection is actually a VIVO (video in - video out) port, you can use a special Y-cable to send and capture video. Find the exact model name of your card, google it, and if you see that it has VIVO, then all you need is the special cable. Otherwise, a decent card with VIVO support should only be around $100 or so.
- pHr34kY, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Sweet! Now I can finally build my old laptop into a MythTV client :)
- bangmalley, on 08/30/2008, -2/+4pls support 3d acceleration
- krnldmp, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3No. This does not make a hardware DAC an ADC.
- GMorgan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Are these in the same format that can be burnt to CD in iTunes. Burn to a CD-RW then rip.
- msiner, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Lack of this feature is one of the key things that drove me back to Windows. I use my s-video out a lot and got tired of having to reboot into Windows just to use it. Thank you to the GATOS project for changing the license from GPL to MIT to make this possible.
- SoAnIs, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2In the case of my parents? 23 years.
I'm 21. They've had their oldest child for less time than their TV.
We don't watch much tv, ever. - Piedramente, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Another step toward mainstream for linux!
- roguetrick, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2You took the hard route to find why DRM is bad.
- tripzero, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Nvidia's driver pwns ATI's driver. The open source drivers are a completely different story as none of them are supported by the graphics card vendor.
- sinembarg0, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Ever hear of the All-in-Wonder cards? There's a Radeon (in the 8500 series I believe) that has a firewire port, as well as many other input ports. I have an AiW 7500, and it has composite in, S-Video in, a TV Tunes, and S-Video and DVI out.
- rullingen, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2I'll be interested when it supports my
x1950 - str3ama, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3thnx for the explanation. The cards that capture from the TV seem to be really expensive, probably to stop tv pirates or something? I always assumed that tv shows available for download were captured this way.
- toxicityj, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2umm I've been able to do this for like 2 years without any patches. granted the on-TV quality is crap, but still I could do it...
- fritzek, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I've got older TV card Winfast 2000XP which I bought for 10$(It wasnt new). It can grab video from TV.
- joelito, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1You could install vmware server from Canonical's commercial repo and run Windows there
- Deived, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I'm working on making the switch from XP to Ubuntu. I was waiting for this. Awesome timing.
The only thing that's keeping me from switching now is that I need to convert my purchased audio books from audible and iTunes to something not copy protected. Boo to audible for no Linux support. - marx2k, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1You can always buy one of the old ATI All-In-Wonder cards - I have one and switched it out for an NVidia card - but the ATI All In Wonder Radeons must be cheap as hell by now and they do TV in and TV out on the same card
- joelito, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1It does, I'm using that exact same card right now with Compiz and some games.
- Deived, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I have so many books, it would take tons of cds. Not exactly what I want to do. found a fix though. Nero 7 reads and burns audio from audible.com. I burn to nero image, then deamon tools to mount the nrg, and rip into iTunes as mp3. Doesnt solve my problem for iTunes content though
- antdude, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1You need a TV card or a card that can do TV in.
Does anyone know of a good cheap one for HDTV stuff? - damentz, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2At least it can play quake 3.
- emrikol, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Good lord, it's been so long since I've used my old Radeon 9200 in Linux I don't even know if it uses the xf86 driver. I think it does though. I'll have to check this out later.
- Giga, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Yes, it will. Buying new hardware should not be the only solution to software inadequacies. Not everyone can afford new TVs.
- tech42er, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I don't blame the users. I blame the manufacturers.
- MasteRR, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1That's right, I forgot about those.
Okay, most. - str3ama, on 10/10/2007, -3/+4I have a card with tv-in (I think that's what its called), I can send video from my computer to my tv - I use an RCA cable for that, I think I have an s-video port as well..but I can't send video from tv to my comp, does that mean that with this driver I would be able to via the s-video port? Sorry for my n00bness, it's an ATI Radeon 7000 series or something (yea it's crap I know)
- mykool, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Larry is exactly right. It's the one feature that has been holding me back from switching to Linux.
- msiner, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0The article does not seem to really give credit where credit is due by discussing the history. For a while there has been a GPL driver supporting TV-Out on ATI cards. Since the code was GPL, it could not be incorporated into the mainline X.org release. The main developer of the GATOS project, Frederico Ulivi, recently decided to relicense the driver so that the TV-Out code could be merged with the mainline X.org ati driver. Find out more here:
http://www.x.org/wiki/radeonTV - marx2k, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0Will this even be that much of an issue when most new TV's are coming out with a VGA port and most video cards have an extra DVI-Out port that you can either do direct DVI-DVI on TV or employ a DVI-HDMI cable on? This was an issue with my 32" CRT Toshiba that only had RCA-type video in, component video in and S-Video in, but running the DVI out from my NVidia to the HDMI in on my 65" Toshiba DLP HDTV is pure enjoyment without needing to worry about anything except how crappy divx/xvid looks when blown up into 65"
- marx2k, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0You'll notice I said WHEN MOST NEW TV's ... meaning when people buy their next set. How long do you suppose people will stick with the same TV? 5 years? 10 years?
- srfrogger, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1If only they could fix the vista drivers for me.
- damentz, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1At least it can play quake 3.
- davidlin, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1What are you talking about? 3D acceleration is supported by the x86-video-ati driver for the R100/200/300/400 series. 3D acceleration will come for R500/600 in the Avivo driver.
- damentz, on 10/10/2007, -5/+1Thank you linux zealot.
- UtopiaInTheSky, on 10/10/2007, -8/+3Great, now if only Nvidia could release some anti-suckass drivers. Get me?
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