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OpenOffice.org 3.0 beta?
oooninja.com — The real OpenOffice.org 3.0 beta is due April 30. With any version, you are welcome and encouraged to test to find and report bugs and to discover new features. The stable OpenOffice.org 3.0 release is still due September 2008.
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- mossblaser, on 04/18/2008, -1/+23Woo Hoo!
Finally has picture cropping!
This release is looking more and more like it could alleviate most of the caveats I have with OOo. Not to say the current version is bad (I use it instead of MS Office entirely), but this next release should be excellent.- yuanzhoulu, on 04/18/2008, -9/+4i bet they'll do what Matlab and Maple already did. rewrite the whole nice fast, C application in Java. and it will be slow as hell, take 30 seconds to start up, freeze your mouse for 5 seconds in the process, and have ***** looking widgets that don't match your OS.
On my 1.7 GHz, 1GB RAM:
Maple 5: takes 3 seconds to start the interface
Maple 9: takes 20 seconds
Matlab 6.5.1: takes 8 seconds
Matlab 7.0: takes 35 seconds- nmnnotmyname, on 04/18/2008, -2/+3I'm sorry, this is just plain true. Java is only good for small things. OOo is very slow compared to it's potential. People, learn what to digg up and what to digg down. Just because your living in dream land with the delusion that Java can match up to C, while even just the design doesn't permit that, doesn't mean you must crush everything coming your way that even begins to contradict your thoughts.
- Mejogid, on 04/18/2008, -0/+2I'm sorry, you're speaking out of your arse. Java has an overhead associated with the virtual machine, and many interface bindings are comparatively slow but there's nothing inherently wrong with the language - benchmarks such as http://www.idiom.com/~zilla/Computer/javaCbenchmar ... show it can actually be very competitive with C. In both cases, there are tonnes of language-specific optimisations and considerations that mean a direct port will probably suffer from performance which I'd guess is the case with yuanzhoulu's examples. Oh, and your statement that "Java is only good for small things" is ridiculous - many huge computing projects make use of the language.
Besides that, only some additional functionality actually uses java. The start time, I will grant you, is slowed down when you enable the JRE and for that reason I personally have disabled it, since I don't depend on any of the functionality it provides.
- Mejogid, on 04/18/2008, -0/+2I'm sorry, you're speaking out of your arse. Java has an overhead associated with the virtual machine, and many interface bindings are comparatively slow but there's nothing inherently wrong with the language - benchmarks such as http://www.idiom.com/~zilla/Computer/javaCbenchmar ... show it can actually be very competitive with C. In both cases, there are tonnes of language-specific optimisations and considerations that mean a direct port will probably suffer from performance which I'd guess is the case with yuanzhoulu's examples. Oh, and your statement that "Java is only good for small things" is ridiculous - many huge computing projects make use of the language.
- nmnnotmyname, on 04/18/2008, -2/+3I'm sorry, this is just plain true. Java is only good for small things. OOo is very slow compared to it's potential. People, learn what to digg up and what to digg down. Just because your living in dream land with the delusion that Java can match up to C, while even just the design doesn't permit that, doesn't mean you must crush everything coming your way that even begins to contradict your thoughts.
- pigfister, on 04/18/2008, -1/+2too true
- yuanzhoulu, on 04/18/2008, -9/+4i bet they'll do what Matlab and Maple already did. rewrite the whole nice fast, C application in Java. and it will be slow as hell, take 30 seconds to start up, freeze your mouse for 5 seconds in the process, and have ***** looking widgets that don't match your OS.
- Kingoftherings, on 04/18/2008, -4/+30I already have MS Office, but I'm thinking about moving to OOo just to support FOSS, I don't even use MS Office all that often anyway. :)
- theaceoffire, on 04/18/2008, -0/+9You can try out the portable OO.o version, so that you don't have to install it:
http://portableapps.com/news/2008-04-15_-_openoffi ... - latova, on 04/18/2008, -2/+10Theres actually pretty much nothing you can't do in OOo that you can do in MS Office. OOo actually has a few things that MS office doesn't but probably isn't practical for the everyday user.
As long as you can adjust to a couple of options being in other places, OOo works great, and you'll wonder why you ever bothered buying/pirating/whatever MS office.
Also it supports doc and rtf just fine for import/export so theres no need to worry about sending things out to other people, although its ALWAYS preferable to have it in odf ;)- Kingoftherings, on 04/18/2008, -6/+2Lol, I have access to an MSDN account that I don't have to pay for, so I can get all the MS products for free. :P
- nmnnotmyname, on 04/18/2008, -0/+2Unless you plan on posting it's info... we don't care...
- ParanoydAndroid, on 04/19/2008, -3/+2"Unless you plan on posting it's info... we don't care..."
"plan on posting it's info"
"it's info"
"it's"
seriously? no, really, seriously? English *****, do you speak it? - ChuqAU, on 04/19/2008, -0/+3Free? Only if you call "locking yourself in to MS's proprietary format" "free",
- Kingoftherings, on 04/18/2008, -6/+2Lol, I have access to an MSDN account that I don't have to pay for, so I can get all the MS products for free. :P
- theaceoffire, on 04/18/2008, -0/+9You can try out the portable OO.o version, so that you don't have to install it:
- z0mbie2099, on 04/18/2008, -15/+8MS Office is doomed!
- TheUngod, on 04/18/2008, -5/+8Not if they keep bundling it. OOo is a great product, but most people buying a new computer will get MS Office for "free" and continue to use it.
- rmjb, on 04/18/2008, -1/+13You don't get MS Office for "free" it's an itemised cost that you can remove, and often it costs more than some core components in your PC. What you get for free is a MS Office trial, which asks you to pay for it 30/60/90 days after.
Unless by "free" you mean pirated... which I'm not sure if MS appreciates. - loneBoat, on 04/18/2008, -1/+8I've bought my share of new computers, and I've never received a "free" copy bundled. They've often come with MS Works and a 30-day Office TRIAL, but never a full-blown copy of MS Office.
- comstock76, on 04/18/2008, -0/+3I'm pretty sure TheUngod was trying to imply that the cost of MS Office was included in the final cost of purchasing the computer from say Dell, Gateway, etc. I have purchased MANY computers from such companies and they all come with "free" MS Office installed. It's not really free, just tacked on to the total price.
- rmjb, on 04/18/2008, -1/+13You don't get MS Office for "free" it's an itemised cost that you can remove, and often it costs more than some core components in your PC. What you get for free is a MS Office trial, which asks you to pay for it 30/60/90 days after.
- potterboy, on 04/18/2008, -10/+4Not yet, in the publishing world there is no competition for Microsoft Word.
- SteveMax, on 04/18/2008, -1/+8Good joke... Next you will be saying that in the design world there is no competition for Paint, or Imaging.
- shantanubala, on 04/18/2008, -1/+3Or "In the online world, there's no competition for IE"
Holy *****. I can't believe I just said that...
- shantanubala, on 04/18/2008, -1/+3Or "In the online world, there's no competition for IE"
- nmnnotmyname, on 04/18/2008, -0/+3Considering Word sucks very bad for publishing in the first place... :P
Honestly, If your doing publishing, there are programs 10 times better for the job than MS office. Granted, Inkscape isn't exactly what you think of when you think "Professional Desktop Publishing", but it works and fast, and there are better programs just like it.
Oh, and there are some useful things that OOo has been able to do for a while, like PDF export.
This really is equivalent to saying that IE has no competition. Sure, OOo isn't the Firefox of Office software, but it's damn well on it's way.
- SteveMax, on 04/18/2008, -1/+8Good joke... Next you will be saying that in the design world there is no competition for Paint, or Imaging.
- ha1f, on 04/18/2008, -7/+5That would imply that OOo is a superior product. It is not.
- kipmartin, on 04/18/2008, -2/+4umm...probably not. its just Open bloatware because they chose to go down the total MS compatibility path.
we still need a light, small footprint word processor that is compatible with Word.- clockdist, on 04/18/2008, -1/+5User Google Apps!
- mazza558, on 04/18/2008, -0/+5Abiword?
- anillop, on 04/18/2008, -0/+2OO has a long long way to go before that happens. But I can hope.
- TheUngod, on 04/18/2008, -5/+8Not if they keep bundling it. OOo is a great product, but most people buying a new computer will get MS Office for "free" and continue to use it.
- imacbook, on 04/18/2008, -39/+4I'll stick to iWork by Apple because it is the best, thanks.
- melat0nin, on 04/18/2008, -0/+5As you can see, the community is absolutely in agreement with you.
- nmnnotmyname, on 04/18/2008, -0/+3Hmm, I have an idea for Apple. the iDictionary:
Delusions: The only reason Mac is still popular.
Hypocrisy: See "Apple Fanboys"
- macbookbill, on 04/18/2008, -11/+4I am Ron Burgundy?
- vertigoblue, on 04/18/2008, -0/+4i love lamp?
- talonstriker, on 04/18/2008, -0/+36Awesome, I'm really looking forward to the PDF import feature.
- danwallace, on 04/18/2008, -14/+10I'll download it, but to be honest, I'll probably just continue to use MSOffice. I don't want to have to deal with any funky conversion issues and it's easier to stick with the standard. I loaded my resume into OOo once and it wasn't too happy with some formatting.
- qwuinc, on 04/18/2008, -0/+21The standard... heh.
- arjie, on 04/18/2008, -7/+2Sadly, through intensive lobbying OOXML is now a standard.
- theaceoffire, on 04/18/2008, -0/+6Not the version in Office. A new version they made, remade, and then after getting approved had a bunch of people set up to also remake it.
- spyres, on 04/18/2008, -1/+5Talk to us when Office actually uses OOXML
- 0Degrees, on 04/18/2008, -0/+8De-facto yes... by any other definition, it's debatable.
- arjie, on 04/18/2008, -7/+2Sadly, through intensive lobbying OOXML is now a standard.
- UberNick, on 04/18/2008, -0/+18Next time create the resume in OOo then export it as a PDF. Problem solved!
- cawpin, on 04/18/2008, -0/+3That's exactly what I've been doing for 5 years. If i send a resume through email it's a PDF file.
- mckinnej, on 04/18/2008, -5/+3Doesn't always work. Many companies insist on a Word document. I've even had companies respond that they couldn't open my pdf file because it was an unknown format. I finally gave up and stuck with Word for the resume.
OO fried the formatting on my resume too, so I don't go there anymore. And no, I didn't use the templates. They suck in several ways.- nmnnotmyname, on 04/18/2008, -0/+2Insisting on using the Word format is just plain stupid. It leaves no room for switching at all and it's not even that good.
- MKdx, on 04/19/2008, -0/+1One option you might want to try is the Sun ODF plugin http://www.sun.com/software/star/odf_plugin/index. ... . You can then do all the typing and formatting in ODF and just save it as Word format when you need.
- LastDitchHero, on 04/18/2008, -0/+2You said your resume, so I am guessing you used the Resume wizard in Office. I actually had a professor who would doc points for anyone who used the resume wizard for a resume. The reason being some work places have old versions of Office that make all the formating in those templates look like crap. So your better off not using those templates. If your worried about your resume looking right do it as simple as possible, export to RTF then import back into Word, or send as PDF.
- HalfGiraffe, on 04/18/2008, -0/+1Better to either create your resume using a plain text editor or use a minimum of fancy formatting so that you can easily export to plain text. That way it's easy to paste it into recruiting and job search websites.
- qwuinc, on 04/18/2008, -0/+21The standard... heh.
- maxyRO, on 04/18/2008, -14/+9it's still ugly
- acidandspatter, on 04/20/2008, -0/+1Compared to Office 2007's ribbon it definitely is. All they need to do is just loose all those grey boxes and backgrounds and move for pastel colours and it would look so much more professional and advertising for new users.
- ha1f, on 04/18/2008, -1/+16Why isn't this in the software section?
- secleinteer, on 04/18/2008, -6/+2Because it's mainly for Linux, bitch.
- nmnnotmyname, on 04/18/2008, -2/+3Actually, Java sucks on Linux. Sorry, Sun needs to step it up - Java is hard to install, is ***** buggy in ANY netscape plugin compatible browser, and generally annoying with problems on any platforms.
Granted, most popular distros have began to support Java explicitly and they have gone a long way with it.
- nmnnotmyname, on 04/18/2008, -2/+3Actually, Java sucks on Linux. Sorry, Sun needs to step it up - Java is hard to install, is ***** buggy in ANY netscape plugin compatible browser, and generally annoying with problems on any platforms.
- rimbaud, on 04/18/2008, -1/+2Agreed buried for being wrong topic.
- kretik, on 04/19/2008, -0/+3One word: Spamowitz.
- secleinteer, on 04/18/2008, -6/+2Because it's mainly for Linux, bitch.
- BigKeg, on 04/18/2008, -13/+4Ill be too busy with GTA IV
- nmnnotmyname, on 04/18/2008, -0/+2Then you shouldn't be interested in reading a story about word processors or Open Source.
- Cladouros, on 04/18/2008, -10/+4Well, it's still horrible on OS X.
- kipmartin, on 04/18/2008, -0/+6use NeoOffice. its great on OSX.
- belthesar, on 04/18/2008, -0/+5Apparently you haven't used the OpenOffice beta that has a Cocoa interface. Check it out, you might be surprised.
- nmnnotmyname, on 04/18/2008, -0/+1OS X is still horrible on OS X...
Okay, now that I'm done with that cheap laugh, I could either recommend that you learn how to use Google or how to ask for help. Seriously, If it's that bad, it's likely someone else has gone through it - It's especially surprising that I was able to find people doing stuff and having trouble with it on Linux even. (Yeah, really, who knew there was anybody else who tried playing Puyo Puyo 4 on Mupen64?.. lol. I actually did that by the way. lxdreams worked with the dreamcast version better anyways.)
- lsalih, on 04/18/2008, -4/+10Support Open-Source in general. Download Ubuntu if you're still using Windows.
- jonvdveen, on 04/18/2008, -1/+15Not to attack you, but I find your comment ironic considering that your profile picture is an MS Windows stock image! ;-)
- LastDitchHero, on 04/18/2008, -0/+5Hopefully some welcome improvements will come with 3.0. The Sun Report Builder has already improved a lot on Base, Calc already has some good improvements. If you do casual office work and you are going to pay for MS Office, use OOo for a week then decide.
- dragoninsane, on 04/18/2008, -4/+2hope they repair that ugly interface and remove win w0rd -97 icons from there cache.lol
- LastDitchHero, on 04/18/2008, -0/+5Umm....Tools - Options, expand OpenOffice.org then select View, change the Icons to whatever you want. I recommend crystal svg
- nmnnotmyname, on 04/18/2008, -0/+2If you were using it on Linux....
No but seriously it's just default. It's like Firefox except Firefox comes with better defaults. But Open Source devs aren't designers, and I'm glad they don't try to be... (If they did, we'd end up with programs using an Anime icon with triangular buttons and an theme interface that looks about as pretty as Motif does)
- clockdist, on 04/18/2008, -0/+2Hopefully MS will shoot themselves in the foot enough times with these annoying new versions of Office and Windows, so people will actually consider using an alternative to MS Office. Choices are a good thing.
- kipmartin, on 04/18/2008, -11/+5next time you steal software, remember that pirating impacts profits, which in turn impacts OUR jobs as developers. if my company writes some app, and it loses 10% to piracy, they will make it up with cuts in product development, not sr. management. dont steal *****--it impacts people like us.
you may think you are sticking it to Ballmer, but do you think he feels it? nope. the results are felt by Joe Coder in development. i know ill get buried because we like to feel like pirates and rebels, but life isnt a damned video game.- vertigoblue, on 04/18/2008, -0/+4life will be a video game on April 29th
- kipmartin, on 04/18/2008, -3/+2hahaha! oh yeah. i forgot! i hope it comes out on OSX for us mac fanboys!
- greenlight2001, on 04/18/2008, -2/+2I think you're a tool.
- nmnnotmyname, on 04/18/2008, -0/+1What I would do if life was a Linux machine and I got the root password
cd /home
rm kipmartin -rf
userdel kipmartin
echo "Who's trolling now?" > /dev/kipmartin
- kipmartin, on 04/18/2008, -3/+2hahaha! oh yeah. i forgot! i hope it comes out on OSX for us mac fanboys!
- jjustin01, on 04/18/2008, -0/+12What does your piracy speech have to do with an article that is about downloading a free, open-source product?
Have you been holding on to the speech for so long that you felt this was as good a place as any to put it?
I'm just trying to understand it's relevance - 0Degrees, on 04/18/2008, -0/+3...and your making this point here for what reason?
Not commenting on whether I agree or not - just seems like off topic spam. - bamboo7, on 04/18/2008, -2/+1I am in you compiler stealing your codes. Also your gay.
- jkgm, on 04/18/2008, -0/+4You're stealing his gay? Gay what? You can't just stop mid-sentence! I want to know what you're stealing that's gay!
- bamboo7, on 04/19/2008, -0/+0What are you talking about. This is my comment "I am in you compiler stealing your codes. Also your gay." is that not what is been seen. Im so confused.
- jkgm, on 04/18/2008, -0/+4You're stealing his gay? Gay what? You can't just stop mid-sentence! I want to know what you're stealing that's gay!
- nmnnotmyname, on 04/18/2008, -0/+1Remember people, by not supporting Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer your putting the poor (idiots who chose to be) workers at Microsoft in a slightly worse position than they normally would be. So never use Microsoft Office illegally. Besides, it has a much worse effect than skipping out on Microsoft altogether and just using Open Office in the first place.
Or wait... - anaoum, on 04/20/2008, -0/+0don't work for non open source companies then
- vertigoblue, on 04/18/2008, -0/+4life will be a video game on April 29th
- anshuman, on 04/18/2008, -0/+6they gotta massively overhaul UI before they release OO 3.0 stable.
- momsshizzle, on 04/18/2008, -7/+2OMG!!!! Yess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not. Buried.
- nmnnotmyname, on 04/18/2008, -1/+1OMG!!!! Yess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not. Buried.
Come on. The internet has enough idiots. I begin to feel sorry for the few sane Windows users who don't do anything to deserve the surge of people who make them look like assholes. Then in turn they must defend themselves against Linux pro content and then it just creates more Windows fanboys and that's just bad. It's like a circle - Linux and Windows idiots tend to make the whole group look bad, then there's turmoil and the intelligent population loses.
- nmnnotmyname, on 04/18/2008, -1/+1OMG!!!! Yess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not. Buried.
- jamesmcginnis, on 04/18/2008, -0/+1The only things missing for me are MS-Access & 100% Compatible VBA & MS Forms support in spreadsheets.
If these are already included...Sorry; I must have missed something somewhere.
oOo is the best office suite!!!!!- LastDitchHero, on 04/18/2008, -0/+1Ok, Base is close now with the Sun Report Builder, and your never going to get 100% Compatible VBA. And forms support in spreadsheets? Just click data form....
- jamesmcginnis, on 04/18/2008, -0/+2Just installing (again.....after a year's break) I'll check it out again thanks!!!!!
- FKnight, on 04/18/2008, -1/+2"oOo is the best office suite!!!!!"
Except for the three things you listed that oOo doesn't have that you said you need, that MS Office has.- nmnnotmyname, on 04/18/2008, -0/+1Oh well, PDF export, true standard document support (ODF), better transitions in slideshows, more 3D features... There are some advantages.
- jamesmcginnis, on 04/20/2008, -0/+1Simple enough for me at the moment........I use CutePDF.....Fantastic for ANY application that is able to print!!!!
- nmnnotmyname, on 04/18/2008, -0/+1Oh well, PDF export, true standard document support (ODF), better transitions in slideshows, more 3D features... There are some advantages.
- LastDitchHero, on 04/18/2008, -0/+1Ok, Base is close now with the Sun Report Builder, and your never going to get 100% Compatible VBA. And forms support in spreadsheets? Just click data form....
- growler1, on 04/18/2008, -0/+1I'm saying this with the full knowledge that the UI is secondary to the functionality and overall extensibility of OOo, but wouldn't a UI change (darker theme, something completely distinct from older versions of Word) make a lot more people excited about it as a product? Maybe like Ubuntu Studio?
I love Writer and Draw, but the UIs sometimes seem a bit blah or derivative.- manitoba98xp, on 04/18/2008, -0/+1I see your point, but I disagree. You want to create a familiar interface to lower the boundary to entry. You want the interface to match the OS, so it doesn't feel "alien". Besides, I personally prefer a dark-on-light interface to light-on-dark.
- jamesmcginnis, on 04/20/2008, -0/+1May be a plugin so you are able to theme the program yourself would be more suitable? What do you think?
I'd prefer this personnally.
- jamesmcginnis, on 04/20/2008, -0/+1May be a plugin so you are able to theme the program yourself would be more suitable? What do you think?
- manitoba98xp, on 04/18/2008, -0/+1I see your point, but I disagree. You want to create a familiar interface to lower the boundary to entry. You want the interface to match the OS, so it doesn't feel "alien". Besides, I personally prefer a dark-on-light interface to light-on-dark.
- Amiga500, on 04/18/2008, -1/+4I love OpenOffice, but they MUST get MS Office document compatibility issues fixed. I can't tell you the number of Word Documents I've opened that just don't look right. I can't completely dump Office until these issues are fixed.
- IanLynch, on 05/03/2008, -0/+1Which is why a single ISO open document standard is needed that is fully open and fully documented.
- Amiga500, on 04/18/2008, -0/+2As has happened before, this story is posted to the WRONG category. Open Office did not start as a Linux only application, it never was. It's always been available for Windows.
- nmnnotmyname, on 04/18/2008, -0/+1hehehe... maybe they did it to piss you off ;)
But I do agree. and Sun Java is pretty ***** bad In Linux... It's nearly completely solved by major distros, but Java itself is just deplorable in Linux in general.
- nmnnotmyname, on 04/18/2008, -0/+1hehehe... maybe they did it to piss you off ;)
- ladyxluck, on 04/18/2008, -0/+1Ive been told to get open office, would you recommend it?
- GrantTLC, on 04/19/2008, -0/+2That depends on who you are and what you'd use it for. While a free office suite is ofiicially A Good Thing, it might be more than you need.
Best way to answer your question is to install it and try it out for yourself. :)
http://www.openoffice.org/- jamesmcginnis, on 04/20/2008, -0/+1Agreed!!!!
- GrantTLC, on 04/19/2008, -0/+2That depends on who you are and what you'd use it for. While a free office suite is ofiicially A Good Thing, it might be more than you need.
- vincentweber, on 04/18/2008, -0/+2I have Office XP and even when I was still using Windows I preferred OOo because it seems more natural to me but that is just a personal thing. OOo impress is actually way better than Powerpoint. Now that we can also import and edit PDF instead of just exporting it, OOo is not even just FLOSS for me but a better Office suit to me. Ofcourse there are die-hard Excel users who can macro across the MS Office database ***** and all that but that will just be 1% of all people using it. So for the other 99% it's probably a better alternative.
- jamesmcginnis, on 04/20/2008, -0/+1That 1% of us really want to break away from Microsoft as much as the next guy since it is an industry standard AT THE MOMENT; I'm trying to convince all my customers and suppliers to make the switch (I'd say 10% of these ARE interested!!!)
- Lazymonkey44, on 04/18/2008, -2/+1What they should do is make it less bloated and make it look nice and give it support for .docx files! Then I will move from Office 2007 (I like it)
- ChuqAU, on 04/19/2008, -0/+1If you didn't use MS Office 2007, you wouldn't need to worry about if OOo supported .docx or not.
- Lazymonkey44, on 04/19/2008, -0/+0True, but, i have use office 2007 and if Open Office 3 is good enough, I'll use it
- jamesmcginnis, on 04/20/2008, -0/+1I dont know ANYONE who uses Office 2007 (I myself tried it and went back to 2003 - with 2007 suuport app) - I Hate the new interface - I don't know anyone who actually likes the new interface!
- Lazymonkey44, on 04/23/2008, -0/+1I like it, it takes some getting used to though
- Knet88, on 04/22/2008, -0/+1Some people like to annoy everyone else by sending files in the new format, I've seen and heard of it happening.
- ahz1, on 04/19/2008, -0/+1OpenOffice.org 3.0 does have .docx support and performance improvements. It's in the first article in this series http://www.oooninja.com/2008/03/openofficeorg-30-n ...
- ChuqAU, on 04/19/2008, -0/+1If you didn't use MS Office 2007, you wouldn't need to worry about if OOo supported .docx or not.
- Knet88, on 04/22/2008, -0/+1Novell's enhanced version of OpenOffice is good for people who find that they have to work with M$ Office 07 a lot and go back and forth between them frequently. Whether or not you like Novell, their version of OOo is handy. Novell actually knew that people would want support for the new Office format.
No matter how much I personally don't like OOXML I know that one of the first things that attracted my attention was that OOo supported a lot of formats, not just its own, and that feature is a great one to have.
OpenOffice is great, I use it exclusively, I wont touch M$ OFFice anymore, especially while there is a portable USB version.
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