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- inactive, on 01/19/2008, -23/+92The new MS Office is miles ahead of OpenOffice, hopefully 3.0 will put it back on par with it (or at least close).
- codyman, on 01/19/2008, -12/+59I've tried the new MSOffice, and for what I do (typing wise, which is basically basic, basic letters and whatnot), OpenOffice is more than fine... and the price fits
- ReturnToFreedom, on 01/19/2008, -5/+50Why do you think the latest version of MS Office is such an improvement? It's because they actually have competition now thanks to OpenOffice. As long as OpenOffice is around, competition will deliver better products to us. OpenOffice is the best choice because 1) it's free 2) open source 3) respects standards which increase competition, leading to better products for us all.
- inactive, on 01/19/2008, -9/+42Hahaha. Try formatting a 100+ page technical report with complex plots, equations, figure captions, footnotes, table of contents etc. in OOo and watch the wrapping and layout get horribly mangled as you try to edit it. Word is much more robust for professional page layout. Watch me get dugg down.
For basic stuff I use Google Docs. - vibrokatana, on 01/19/2008, -0/+26Try doing the same thing with latex and wonder why you even tried doing that in a WYSIWYG editor.
- GreenAlien, on 01/19/2008, -7/+32When are we going to see opensource design their own applications rather than do cheap imitations of commercial software. Just because Microsoft designed it this way doesnt make it the optimal design. Surely with opensource there's a way to really make use of all the open minds involved rather than just allocate out programming tasks. Microsoft showed that it's possible to radically redesign the UI of an office suite (and they did a good job in the latest version). I'm just asking the open source community to put their minds together and make some progress on UI design instead of copying. With open-source you're not under as much pressure to meet deadlines and line the pockets of company execs - you can just design and bang on it until you feel it's right. Give people an incentive to move to open-source other than making it free.
- ChuqAU, on 01/20/2008, -0/+20Haven't you heard? When a new version of a Microsoft program has a completely new interface, its a "revolutionary new design"
When an open source program has a completely new interface to the MS program it intends to compete with, its "too different and hard to learn" - themoosejuice, on 01/19/2008, -3/+22DEAD!!! Digg kills another server.
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---------------------------------------------- - mossblaser, on 01/20/2008, -0/+16If you use the more advanced features of open office you'll realize that it in fact is a lot more different to MS office than a normal screen shot suggests. You probbaly don't use open office (or at best have tried it once or twice) on any regular basis, I myself have now been using it for about a year and have noticed many differences, some good others bad - all that is similar is few tool bars at the top, document in the middle, status bar at the bottom - the rest is different.
- Rubuntu, on 01/20/2008, -0/+16Watch soon for a PDF import. Check out the http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/ for free add-ons, plugins...
- Muncher, on 01/20/2008, -0/+14Dude, that's the point, it's free of charge.
- K9Feldon, on 01/20/2008, -1/+15I'm looking forward to KOffice2 more than OO.org 3. Combined with the new tech in KDE4 its gonna be awesome. Plus they're talking about a Windows release for those of us that haven't taken the plunge into the world of Linux. :)
- niallabrown, on 01/19/2008, -0/+14Open Office or Lotus Symphony cover my needs very well. I publish rich documents on-line and on print with lots of images and formatting. They are both able to meet my high expectations in this area. It's also nice that they have one click PDF export built in without needing to use some crappy printer extension.
- inactive, on 01/19/2008, -3/+16Do you mean that basically?
- stormgren, on 01/19/2008, -2/+14Basically basic basic letters?
Really? - BinaryFragger, on 01/19/2008, -1/+13Dugg down for the use of "M$." Makes you look like an AOL-using idiot.
- carl0ski, on 01/20/2008, -0/+12heres a great slideshow of changes planned
http://marketing.openoffice.org/ooocon2007/program ... - K3ITHK, on 01/20/2008, -1/+12Perhaps they will finish Open Office Aqua so that it runs natively on the mac?
- GreenAlien, on 01/19/2008, -0/+11"Try doing the same thing with latex and wonder why you even tried doing that in a WYSIWYG editor."
Latex is brilliant and always has been. Amazingly powerful and feels like it can do pretty much anything. And this was over 10 years ago. The problem is it's a pain in the ass to learn. This is where UI design is so important. Imagine Latex with a MS Office UI wrapper on top. - Gathalimay, on 01/20/2008, -1/+12I can give you a pile of ***** for $4000 dollars but that doesn't mean it's going to be useful.
- GreenAlien, on 01/19/2008, -3/+12"Watch me get dugg down."
Doubt you'll get dugg down. Microsoft Office is in a different class. - RonnieW, on 01/20/2008, -0/+9And if you want people to switch from M$ to opensource it's a lot less scary for them if the GUI is similar to what they're used to.
- Rubuntu, on 01/20/2008, -2/+10Sure I will admit, the interface is cool. But I don't need coolness. I need freedom from having forced upgrades, file format lock-ins and other tie-ins in hidden APIs and keeping that cash in my pocket instead with a FREE program,. Free forever and satisfies all my needs for creating documents including a great PDF export.
- GMorgan, on 01/20/2008, -0/+8If feature parity means gaining the idiotic 'look at me, I'm different' ribbon interface then I'd rather have fewer features. An idiotic concept which only came about because OOo copied the old MSO interface. Interestingly, this is also why they changed the IE7 interface. They were a little cleverer about MSO though, they made an interface they intend to patent so no one can ever copy it again (they will fail because Blender invented it first and actually has the diversity of functionality to need it).
Anyway, any interface that makes common functionality even marginally harder to make less used functionality even greatly easier is simply idiotic. Take the key 10% of features, make it extremely easy to use this 10%, do not sacrifice ease of use on this 10% for any reason. I do the stuff that the ribbon makes easier about once a month, there are buttons I click perhaps once a minute. They've made the once a minute stuff slightly harder so it's stupid. - killerofkiller, on 01/19/2008, -5/+13say what you want, but the ribbon interface is amazing, almost every feature is 2 clicks away and easy to find.
- InorganicMatter, on 01/20/2008, -6/+13Maybe it'll finally get back on par with Microsoft's Office. The new 2007 interface is amazing, and the 2008 interface is even better.
Digg me down now, you know it's true. - glitchbit, on 01/19/2008, -0/+7Google Cache: http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:GcjZZkLUiRgJ: ...
- GMorgan, on 01/20/2008, -1/+8If you're using a lot of equations on a huge document you really should be using some sort of type setting program rather than something amateurish like a word processor. Word processors are for letters, not technical documents.
- dwbell, on 01/20/2008, -0/+6I did my Grad Thesis in OOo under Linux. No Problems. I did however use Power Point for the presentation because Impress is just blah...
- DiggerT, on 01/20/2008, -0/+6agreed, KOffice is very nice.
- asskey, on 01/19/2008, -3/+9I disagree with your third point. (First two are spot on, being free and open rocks.) Standards do not increase competition. Why do you think Microsoft is pushing their standard? OPEN standards, like OpenDocument, still limit competition, but more importantly, they completely kill anti-competition by preventing companies like Microsoft from dominating an industry with a file format.
- makario, on 09/03/2009, -0/+6Lyx is pretty cool.
- daviddiaz, on 01/19/2008, -2/+7I have to agree. OO.o is decent, but it lacks features that MS Office has, especially office 2007 and 2008.
- mroberts, on 01/20/2008, -0/+5OO.org is way to bloated for me, as is the case with MS Office. Abiword is much more suited to my usage, whether on Windows or GNU/Linux.
iWork '08 is the best office suite out there (IMHO). - JonForTheWin, on 01/20/2008, -0/+5Just even a serious graphical improvement will be a HUGE step forward. That's all users really care about any way.
- robertlankford, on 01/20/2008, -1/+6Digg me down now, you know it's true.
No I don't. I haven't used Microsoft's Office for years now. - Midtowner, on 01/20/2008, -0/+4All I want is for OpenOffice to include a halfway decent outlining tool.
- dunn2953, on 01/20/2008, -0/+4kind of like not knowing how to make analogies
- Ayavaron, on 01/20/2008, -0/+4If that's all your doing, why not use something a little more lightweight like AbiWord?
- inactive, on 01/19/2008, -2/+6BAD COMMENT
- andycr512, on 01/20/2008, -0/+4"Surely with opensource there's a way to really make use of all the open minds involved rather than just allocate out programming tasks."
That's the problem, so many open minds have a difficult time agreeing on a single idea. - djbutnot, on 01/20/2008, -0/+4Even though he was referring to the web site, not OpenOffice itself.
- HalfGiraffe, on 01/20/2008, -0/+4I hope they integrate a simple outlining feature rather than the clunky popup they have now.
- Breepee, on 01/20/2008, -0/+4KIA is a decent car manufacturer, so I don't see the problem. Maybe in your case KIA cars can't compensate enough for you short penis, but other than that they're fine. BMW isn't that much better you know... pretty much all cars are decent these days. A BMW is just faster and, for some, a better compensator.
And the car-analogy doesn't even apply on this one. - themoosejuice, on 01/20/2008, -0/+4Ummmm.... and who is going to train people to use the new Microsoft interface.
- ChuqAU, on 01/20/2008, -2/+5Yes it is way ahead.. cost wise.
- inactive, on 01/20/2008, -0/+3For home users? No.
- zzz@tkz, on 01/20/2008, -1/+4Basically.
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