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- dynacrylic, on 01/28/2008, -9/+322This makes me laugh:
"Support for MS Office 2007 XML. Microsoft confusingly calls this ‘Office Open XML’. We call it Stop Naming Your Unstable Undocumented ***** Format To Sounds Like Ours Thanks." - KevinJim, on 01/28/2008, -11/+121I hope Microsoft's crap "Office Open XML" format don't pass as international accepted format and ODF get the stage. Then OOo developers can focus on essential thing like efficient UI ( and hopefully good looking ), speed and other stuff, instead of reverse engineering BS.
- zerodaysoon, on 01/28/2008, -0/+80"PDF files can be imported into Draw and edited with all their layout intact. Yum."
indeed... :-) - Bartboy919, on 01/28/2008, -8/+78Tara Reid? DO NOT WANT!
- TnTBass, on 01/28/2008, -2/+62 * Email
* Calendaring with meeting invites and free/busy publishing
* Task management
* Server connectivity to CalDAV servers, Google Calendar and Sun Calendar Server, as well as the obligatory iCal support. Alas, no mention of Zimbra.
* Specifically touted by OpenOffice developers as an ‘Outlook replacement’
Shall I be the one to say it?
Thank You! - manitoba98xp, on 01/28/2008, -1/+61SNYUUSFTSLOT. Catchy.
- mooninite, on 01/28/2008, -0/+44Lawsuit for what? PDF is an open format. *sigh*
- mCanada, on 01/28/2008, -6/+44"Unfortunately in current betas, when this feature is enabled, OpenOffice smells vaguely of pee." -best tech comment ever lololol
- IHaveIssues, on 01/28/2008, -0/+34Botched boob job half-star.
- lengau, on 01/28/2008, -1/+30Here's the thing, though.
NO office suite supports OOXML.
One would think that Microsoft Office 2007 would.
It doesn't.
It supports something *very similar* to OOXML. But it does NOT support standard OOXML.
So there is absolutely no real reason to support OOXML, especially when one considers that there are already ways for MS Office to read and write ODF files... - whiteknives, on 01/28/2008, -0/+27The Tara Reid function:
"Unfortunately in current betas, when this feature is enabled, OpenOffice smells vaguely of pee." - ekso, on 01/28/2008, -8/+35I've been using OO for quite a few years, but... on the new version, can you EASILY AND QUICKLY change and install dictionaries in other languages???
- inactive, on 01/28/2008, -5/+31Just cuz your computer is messed does not mean OO is a ***** product...
- carbon12, on 01/28/2008, -1/+25FTA:
"New PIM....Specifically touted by OpenOffice developers as an ‘Outlook replacement’" - mossblaser, on 01/28/2008, -1/+23Real life shows that without linux you wouldn't be sending these messages, you wouldn't have google'd anything today, you wouldn't be using DNS and your ISP probably wouldn't be doing its job. Basically, without linux you'd be screwed.
- gameforge, on 01/28/2008, -1/+22Most people will recognize it not as the clever acronym that it is, but as the sound of somebody snorting a line of cocaine... that's why it'll stick.
- ashmon, on 01/28/2008, -1/+22Big deal. Outlook comes free with every $500 MS Office purchase. Oh, wait...
- inactive, on 01/28/2008, -0/+21Thunderbird works very well, I replaced Outlook with it a long time ago and thanks to the plug ins, I can do about 10 times more with Thunderbird than I ever could with Outlook. Like one click to send phishing emails to phishtank, one click to pass all my spam on to KnuJon, Message level authentication, a button to do redirects... etc etc etc. All this is great for average users but its amazing if you are a system administrator.
- macoafi, on 01/28/2008, -0/+21See, now, my "who gives a crap" is more along the lines of "LaTeX is better than word processing anyway."
I don't have Microsoft Office. There's no Linux-native version, and it's not FOSS, so what reason have I to "acquire" it? - thcobbs, on 01/28/2008, -4/+24basically.... Microsoft is stuffing bad ***** up a slot?
- Darkhacker, on 01/29/2008, -0/+20That's why I personally refuse to call it "OOXML" and instead use the term MSOXML, for Microsoft Office XML.
- radius7, on 01/28/2008, -3/+22btw, wht is Tara Reid ????
- desistere, on 01/28/2008, -3/+22Laugh out loud out loud out loud?
- drag, on 01/29/2008, -1/+20""I was told I had to use MS Office for my college work, Sucks ass""
Ignore them. Seriously. Use whatever is most usefull, most comfortable for you in the environment you prefer. Your paying for College, they are working for you.
Most likely they just don't want to deal with badly formated reports and such and that can happen with mistakes between different types of document conversion. How you deal with that is that when your finished with your report you just go down to the library and make sure your stuff looks good on the version of Office they are using.
This is something you should do anyways, unless your absolutely sure everybody and their mom is going to be running the same exact version of MS Office as you are. If there is some special need for Office because of VB scripts, crappy third party apps, or other silliness, then you might still have to use MS Office. There are good reasons why you may have it... but all the good reasons are fairly unlikely to occure.
Making you go out and spend money on a specific version of OS so you can buy a specific version of word proccessing software 'just because' is no good.
""Sorry people, I've tried to use OO several times over the past few years, and it just sucks compared to MS Office. I hope they keep working on it, because once it's on par, I will switch.""
It's a Office productivity suite. You make spreedsheets, design reports, hook up to databases, write macros, work a word proccessor. The majority of people would be just as well served with just a program the equivelent of Wordpad and something that will do basic spreadsheets. Suffice it to say OpenOffice.org and MS Office capabilities far surpass the needs of most people.
The sucky part happens is when companies have their 'knowledge worker' environment based around MS Office. There are a lot of things that MS Office can do that will not translate well to OpenOffice.org. It's not that OO.org is less capable.. it is in some respects and is more capable in others, but that it just would take a lot of money and time to migrate from one to the other. ..And, more importantly, any sort of change pisses off most people at their jobs.
The problem is that Office Suites are designed for efficient communication and manipulation of data. So the major rub with sticking with MS Office vs OO.org is that when you are using MS Office your going to end up using all Microsoft proprietary formats and your information will be trapped in these incompatable and closed systems.
So anybody you wish to communicate with will also be required to purchase and use the same closed proprietary software and if they choose to use those formats then anybody they communicate with will be forced to use MS Office also. Now OO.org folks have worked very hard at getting MS compatability, but it's not going to be perfect.
In contrast, when you use OO.org to make documents and for communication with other people they do not need to purchase any software. They can download OO.org for free and give free copies to friends and families without commiting a felony offense. This is something that is not possible with MS Office. Also by choosing to use OO.org and using open documents those other people can use a whole host of other programs that may be (in fact very likely) superior to OO.org in many ways. Stuff like Abiword, Gnumeric, Koffice suite (which is very nice and can even edit HD video frames), and others.
Of course, quality matters. So hopefull OO.org 3 will be able to convince you and lots of other people to switch over so I don't have to deal with this MS Office format ***** anymore. - noahsawyer, on 01/28/2008, -0/+17Plus it's free.
- wonderchemist, on 01/28/2008, -3/+20Tara Reid? Did OO get a bad skin job?
- vuke69, on 01/28/2008, -1/+16Sadly enough, he's spent the last two years teaching the family dog to walk on two legs.
- gr00vy, on 01/28/2008, -0/+15You entirely miss Adobe's business model here. They have opened up PDF to things like Java and Quartz. There goal is to be the number one, kickass best PDF generator, editor, and composer out there. They open up the standard to all comers, and it is up to them to match them spec to spec, bug to bug. It has worked brilliantly to this point, patents not required.
This is good for Adobe, the more people that experience and want to edit PDF files, the more that they will grow and need either Acrobat Pro, or the design products, and if you don't maybe someone upstream or downstream of your document does. This is all good. - aaronshaf, on 01/28/2008, -1/+15Mirror?
- FTLJohnson, on 01/28/2008, -1/+14http://duggmirror.com/linux_unix/OpenOffice_3_has_ ...
- mannaran, on 01/28/2008, -0/+13In international standards voting OOXML got only one vote from a nordic country.. that too withdrawn later on..!! No need to support that..!!
- WhereAmI, on 01/28/2008, -0/+13Jordan's sister on Scrubs.
- SillyDigger, on 01/28/2008, -1/+12In his defense he never specified what he would hit "it" with.
- niallabrown, on 01/28/2008, -0/+11That also sounds amazing. I cant wait to have editable PDF's and a proper native Mac version!
- flyingmeteor, on 01/28/2008, -1/+12Here's the thing, when an Open Source project says they'll have feature x, it will be there.
- Luminoth, on 01/28/2008, -2/+13"Projecting in a defensive manner are we?"
Welcome to Digg. - mCanada, on 01/28/2008, -2/+13Yes it was quite funny thanks
- bulkhater, on 01/28/2008, -1/+11Since it's (In my experience) more stable than Office, I can only imagine what you think of the MS Suite. What do you use instead?
- AdmiralKarelia, on 01/29/2008, -1/+11Use something like OpenOffice for one paper, and see if the professor can even tell the difference.
- jeffiel, on 01/28/2008, -0/+10Disable your web server's keepalives. Keepalies are hogging all your httpd connections, without doing any work. That's why load is low, but connections fail.
- lump1, on 01/29/2008, -1/+11New lipstick on an old dog. I'm not impressed. Or rather, I'm all for keeping OOo alive for now, while we still need it, but there should be a parallel effort to restart the whole project from scratch. The whole codebase is so old and tangled that it's impossible now to make OOo feel quick and responsive, not even with a brand new computer.
OOo's model should be Mozilla or KDE, who, when their realized the limitations of their old code, decided to do a complete rewrite of the internals. Mozilla did this after dumping the old Navigator code, and KDE is in the process of doing it now, with KDE4. But OOo needs this refresh more than either of the others.
Instead of adding more freatures, how about instead trying to rewrite the framework so as to make it easier to add new features in the future? - MadOgre, on 01/28/2008, -0/+9I'd rather hit Jordan and Pretty Blond Doctor...
- Klowner, on 01/28/2008, -1/+9Lethargic Overweight Leprechauns Obnoxiously Licking Oversized Lollypops indeed.
- lovekudu, on 01/28/2008, -0/+8Damnit, after I was Dugg for a week ago, I moved my blog to a dedicated server with a hundred megabit uplink.
Seems that's still not enough. Wordpress is up, load average is low, but it seems my incoming bandwidth isn't good enough. - SSCrow, on 01/28/2008, -2/+10I do hope they have improved their interface.
The organization and grouping of functions was terrble in OO.o 2 - Klowner, on 01/28/2008, -2/+10pancake boobs :-[
- mossblaser, on 01/28/2008, -0/+8*cough* Microsoft-Skinned-Office *cough*
- mabhatter, on 01/29/2008, -0/+8why would we want Email in OpenOffice? There are plenty of other more than good email solutions out there. Open standards to connect are better than trying to write yet another email/calender program. Mozilla and others are working on that, no need to duplicate effort.
- sirhomer, on 01/28/2008, -1/+8Do you know how much of a challenge that would be? It could would be a damn near rewrite. It already uses GTK+ and Tango icons to some extent, however, thanks to the openoffice-gnome project.
- ricodued, on 01/28/2008, -0/+7Yyyeaahhh. No. I use and maintain Lotus Notes in a corporate environment and it supports themes.
Let me tell you that themes are a pain in the ass and offer absolutely no productivity "edge" as you state. -
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