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- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -2/+78If I could digg this more than once, I would. I've been waiting for someone to do this for a long time. Current cell phones are full of bloated ***** I don't want.
- nights0223, on 10/11/2007, -1/+53What knock off? Here's an article from last November showing the design for the phone:
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/smartphones/fics-linuxbased-smartphone-213016.php
If anything, the iPhone knocked off this. - kazamx, on 10/11/2007, -7/+54It looks interesting.
I don't think the first gen is going to be that popular, but it deffo looks like its going to be HUGE in the end - amfantasy, on 10/11/2007, -4/+47I was about to buy a iphone then I remembered this project. I think I know a better way to spend my 300 dollars, If they sell them in Canada I'll be buying one the first day.
- timo1023, on 10/11/2007, -0/+40http://www.openmoko.org/
- timo1023, on 10/11/2007, -10/+46that's what she said.
- markdrago, on 10/11/2007, -5/+41Just a heads up - this phone was announced months before the iPhone. And for that matter, there have been phones with a touch screen used for dialing, etc. before. That part of the iPhone isn't all that innovative. The iPhone has some cool features, but I'm really afraid that people are going to remember the iPhone as being innovative for it's use of the touch screen, when it really isn't.
The OpenMoko / Neo1973 was announced on 2006-11-07 [1]
The iPhone was announced on 2007-01-09 [2].
[1] http://www.openmoko.com/press/index.html
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iphone - TehDoctor, on 10/11/2007, -5/+36Are you for real? You think the full product name will turn people off?
I'm sure people would just call it the Neo. Just because Apple makes all it's ***** and you drink the kool aid doesn't mean they have better products. - heavyd14, on 10/11/2007, -0/+28Any gsm provider. (It takes a SIM card)
- livevil, on 10/11/2007, -0/+22It's not restricted like the iphone, it's an open source phone. That means applications can be installed and fully configurable.
- mjpatey, on 10/11/2007, -9/+29Unfortunately, Verizon (my wireless carrier, and the one with the best reception in my area) doesn't domestically support the GSM network that OpenMoko uses, nor does it allow the use of SIM cards. The carriers in my area that would be compatible with it, unfortunately, have inferior coverage, and I won't switch to them for that reason.
Come on, Verizon! Open up a little! - darwin81, on 10/11/2007, -1/+21It has a Linux-based open platform and better hardware features than the iPhone. So WHY couldn't they have put a little more effort into the case design and general aesthetics‽ I'd rather have this than the iPhone, but the average consumer is going to see the iPhone and say "oooh shiny!!!".
- fuzzmeister, on 10/11/2007, -2/+20It's not like Verizon is going to change from CDMA to GSM any time soon, so I don't see that happening.
- VirtualCtor, on 10/11/2007, -1/+19OMG, that machine is wide open!!! I just logged into it. I'm deleting the root disk now.
The weird part was that the root password was the same as mine. Huh. - missingnoh4x, on 10/11/2007, -1/+18Dugg to death. But just from the title and excerpt, I'm interested. Really, the first thing I thought when I saw the iPhone announced was "Take out the closed-source and the contract with cell phone provider monopolies, and I might give a *****."
- schestowitz, on 10/11/2007, -15/+32It's funny how the media gets infatuated with so-called Apple innovation, when the innovation is right here in a truly open phone.
Forget iPhone, hail OpenMoko, the true revolution
http://www.libervis.com/article/forget_iphone_hail_openmoko_the_true_revolution - livevil, on 10/11/2007, -7/+23A knock off, you're an idiot - just because it's not the Paris Hilton of cellphones? They announced this way before the iPhone. They're aiming at people who can use it's functionality to do work, not just for people like who jack off to shemale porn.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+14480x640 pixels on a 2.8 inch screen? That's incredible!
- kazamx, on 10/11/2007, -0/+14Phone makers make phones
Network providers supply networks
If your calls aren't reliable I will bet the vast majority of the time its the network, not the phone. This phone looks like what firefox used to be. A small simple core, but with the ability to add a million handy apps. This could be my dream phone (or at least rev 2 will be) - mjrauhal, on 10/11/2007, -0/+12First, you're talking about something that's very much a matter of taste.
Second, "Linux guys" didn't design the case. It was originally for a different project. So much for your boorish stab at that.
And I doubt anyone thinks this will "defeat" the iPhone at this point. Apple fans and fashion slaves will buy that thing no matter how many strings are attached or how limited it is. The important thing is that there is a market also for open phones. And as people interested in the openness pick it up, some of them will code apps for it, thus making it an ever-increasingly capable phone, thus attracting new users.
The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. - subcomandante, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11He's the one...
- myfanwy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12not s pipe dream at all, it's slated for the october hardware revision. chipset has been found, drivers sourced.
- Aldrenean, on 10/11/2007, -2/+12A) Dugg parent for "deffo."
B) It's moco, not moko. Españotard. - funtownarcade, on 10/11/2007, -3/+13looks horrid.
- smartalecks, on 10/11/2007, -2/+12http://www.lastpodcast.net.nyud.net:8080/2007/06/28/openmoko-the-anti-iphone/
- darwin81, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10According to Wikipedia, "It is named for the first year of mobile telephone communication: the inventor of the mobile phone, Martin Cooper, made the first call in 1973."
- darwin81, on 10/11/2007, -2/+12Uhh, The OpenMoko platform has been around since 2006 and this phone was done and was supposed to ship in 2006, but, according to WIkipedia, were "hampered by supplier shortages" and other problems.
- LLauranzonIII, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10here you go:
http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS2986976174.html
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/smartphones/openmoko-smartphone-did-they-have-a-time-machine-or-what-229243.php - Z_Man, on 10/11/2007, -2/+12yuck man you need a better inteface taste
- olik, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9How do I keep getting sent to http://127.0.0.12007/06/28/openmoko-the-anti-iphone/
Looks like a loopback with a a missing slash for folder: 127.0.0.1/[year]/[month]/[day]
But what's with the loopback? Anti-digg-effect? EDIT: OH! Anti-Hacker -- turn the hacker on themselves! Very nice! - Figs, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9You didn't count right;
Your syllables need some work --
No haiku cookie. - myfanwy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10neo 1973 is the phone
openmoko is the OS
compare to:
iphone is the phone
OSX is the OS
not so different - thaindian, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10Error 500 - Internal server error
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ive been collecting cash to buy the openmoko phone whenever available.. only issue is that it doesnt support EDGE, if it did then id beg...borrow....steal ... the $300 - wookieface, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9i would call it the neo
- myfanwy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8there are more designs in the works from FIC (the manufacturer), and other manufacturers are being encouraged to produce open hardware that the OS will run on
- Samtheman007, on 10/11/2007, -3/+11openmoko.com is down?? already
- CanceledCzech, on 10/11/2007, -2/+10That makes it even cooler.
- kazamx, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8The .org is still up (getting slow though)
http://www.openmoko.org/
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page ( has a good overview of the project)
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Introduction (has pics of the phone) - wolrah, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8CDMA as a radio technology is certainly superior to the TDMA system used by GSM (there's a reason HSDPA a.k.a. GSM 3G is a CDMA technology), but comparing CDMA2000 (Qualcomm's implementation of CDMA used by Verizon and the like) to GSM it's more of a toss up. CDMA2000 supports soft handoffs from tower to tower, where GSM requires a hard cut, so in theory you're less likely to drop a call on CDMA networks. On the other hand, CDMA systems suffer from a problem often referred to as "breathing" where the cell size shrinks as more users get on it. This can lead to transition areas between two heavily used cells losing service altogether.
Personally I've never experienced any drops on a hard cut over the 4 years I've used GSM phones, so the risk of that is so minimal that it's extremely outweighed by the flexibility to buy my own phones that aren't neutered by the provider. Hell, all three of my phones so far have been provider branded and not neutered because the providers know they can't get away with it. Verizon and Sprint however go ahead and get rid of lots of useful features so they can promote their own services, and unless you can find a firmware from a non-gimped model and reflash (voiding your warranty in the process) you're *****. They know they've got you by the balls and they love it. - attackcardio, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8http://www.openmoko.org/
- PRlME, on 10/11/2007, -4/+12not a knock-off it was designed b4 the i-Phone
- trghpy, on 10/11/2007, -23/+30Hey, a knock-off i can get behind.
Even has true GPS, a feature i thought that the iPhone should have had... - s1mph0ny, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9Yeah, because we all know how horribly XP failed thanks to it's stupid default GUI.
- the0arctic, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8"The phone itself has a 2.8-inch VGA display, USB mesh file sharing, MULTI-TOUCH sensor recognition, GSM, GPS, 128MB RAM, a Samsung ARM9-based processor and MP3 playback capabilities."
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/smartphones/fics-linuxbased-smartphone-213016.php (with PICS of multi-touch examples) - Blizzardman, on 10/11/2007, -3/+9Ya, but does it have an Apple logo?
- DroidBlender, on 09/18/2008, -2/+8I just had an idea. How cool would it be to put on the Moko an embedded version of Ubuntu (or any other embedded distro) and to integrate Compiz/Beryl/Fusion? That would blow the iPhone out of the water. But again, its just an idea. I think the Moko would have a better chance when they come out with the 2nd gen.
- jonshipman, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6too bad the iphone is cingular only
- bking, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Yeah, the New York Times will be all over this tomorrow :rolleyes:
- darwin81, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5I still wouldn't pay $500 for it.
- s1mph0ny, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8So switch to t-mobile. You get all the advantages, their roaming support even picks up at&t.
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