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- d1g1ta7, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19hmm, don't know what your going by here. Suse has been around for a long time (didn't you see version 10?) Suse is one of the more professional and user-friendly of the Linux distributions.
- Tsuroerusu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14If you have actually tried Linux, I highly doubt you'd be sayingwhat you're saying.
First of all, if you go take a look at SLED 10, you'll see an extremely consistant desktop, and I doubt russian teenagers are doing this kinda stuff, I think a lot are busy trying to get fed everyday as A LOT of people in Russia are poor. Go look on the mailinglists, there you can see who do this kinda stuff, Novell employs the old Ximian and SUSE teams which consists of VERY skilled hackers. - threemagic, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Ha!! Jokes on you! SuSE is a GERMAN distro!
- dillrus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Point taken, though I guess I wouldn't really call Novell a "fly-by-night" outfit.
- Gman1223, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14I'm sorry I just can't take you seriously when you can't even say "Linux" right.
Go home Troll. - Jduv, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Suse is one of the more idiot proof linux distros, but I still had problems installing via their Live CD. I don't like memorizing long FTP servers and distribution folders.
- vvaduva, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Agh...when will they add support for Xenu??? Tom Cruise desperately needs it!
- hypershadow147, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I think it's more the way that it's supported. With a support contract, Xen is officially supported by Novell, so if there are problems, they will help you with it. Also it has a good frontend to Xen in YaST now, so there's a first I guess.
- knellotron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6"You're right. My German is rough, but SuSE (or susse) means "sweet." And oh how sweet it is."
fyi, it stands for "Software- und System-Entwicklung" - hypershadow147, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I've been messing with this for a while, and installed the final releases yesterday on a few machines.
Xen seems to run really well and is pretty easy to setup, although I couldn't get 802.1q tagging to work on the host with Xen running. Overall it's a very polished distro, and I can see more great things coming from Novell in the future, especially with the upcoming release of OES2 this fall. - Tsuroerusu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I think you have problems installing from the LiveDVD as it is not meant for installation, it is ONLY for demo purposes, you download CD1 - CD3, and if you want legal MP3 playback out of the box you need CD6 as well, and install it.
Sure this is a lot more than Ubuntu, but SUSE doesn't split KDE and GNOME up, even when you install KDE, you get Firefox, RealPlayer and a few other GTK apps. - motang, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I wonder if this is going to drivers for the Broadcom Wireless out of the box.
- sickaltima, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Xen open source virtualization technology was not mentioned in the previous article
- bootyfarm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Someone tell that guy how horrible his toupee is.
- justinjacobs, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@threemagic
You're right. My German is rough, but SuSE (or susse) means "sweet." And oh how sweet it is. - FluffyArmada, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3For the record, the Linux kernel was written by Linus Torvalds in Finland. He was trying to make a free, posix compliant version of Minix for his x386 [uncertain] box. My understanding is that he then used software from the GNU project to form the rest of the basic Linux system. Then other people started playing with it, and all sorts of chaos ensued. :-) But from chaos, comes order. :-)
Und!! SuSE ist toll! :D - mkaufman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2no, OpenSUSE is just a subset of SUSE Professional.
OpenSUSE comes only with free and open software. So, no MP3 and 3D support out of the box.
SUSE Linux Enterprise is targetted for the professional server market... - renrutal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Is this an innacurate header or this is old news? Looking at the xen and xen-sources ChangeLogs in Gentoo says they've been available since September 7th, 2005. And I doubt this was a even a "world's first".
- giancydni, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Ok, I've used SUSE 10.1 (OpenSUSE).. and quite dissapointed with Yast.. is Novell SUSE's Yast working fine?
- MisterCookie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2They recently got a patch out for YaST, but its still pretty unstable. I hear its because they changed the library behind it or something at the last minute and there were some problems. I recommend Smart as a package manager, alot faster.
- khag7, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1same exact thing here.. so annoying
- stonedgeek, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Yeah. I hope they have wireless network card drivers working out of the box. I have been trying to switch to linux for the last few weeks and that's one thing that has been a major pain.
- jamesuk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Pardon my ignorance on the Linux front but do you have to pay for SUSE? Is Open SUSE the same thing with all the bells and whistles?
Thanks - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2torrents!! torrents!! please.
- hutectro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Suse full retail version works very well Suse that you download does not----- it lacks support and drivers
For linux newbies get retail version you will be much happier using linux. - mparthas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1sweet = Suß
SuSE stood for Software und System Entwicklung.
but it has been retconned.
Now it is spelled SUSE and is no longer an acronym. - BugE, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I went to a "launch" event about SLED 10 yesterday here in Cape Town. What Novell showed off was pretty much standard fair nowadays. It all looked great, with Xgl and what not, but I can't help but feel that they're playing "Catch-Up" with Windows and MacOSX in terms of features and wobbly bits and plug-n-play bits. They say it's better than Ubuntu, I'm not so sure.
- amigiac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Open Suse 10.1 works for me, I run it on my HP Pavilion with no probs, it picked up my wifi and bluetooth, was connected to my wifi AP within 1 minute of the first login.
Not tried Xen yet, but I will install XP in there to see what the device support is like.
I'm liking it so far, installing software is still a bitch, but thats Linux for you. - BenStockwell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yes, it does do WiFi - http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
- Technopundit, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Does it do WiFi?
- Umberhulk, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3FC5 came with Xen already ...
- asg1290, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Flame me if you must but of all the distro's I've tried I have had the the worst luck with SUSE. It has never worked correctly for me from 9.0 till now. I just tried out OpenSuse 10;1 and my wireless card didn't work, 10 kernel paniced my box when login in, 9.3 wouldn't boot and yast kept jacking my xorg settings, I could go on. This isn't just me I've taken a small poll of my coworkers and they have all had similar problems or different quirks. Keep in mind I was running this on "suse approved" hardware whatever that means. (HP NC6000) Ubuntu on the other hand just worked even suspeneded correctly which completely suprised me.
- dcperspective, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0A couple of things to note here-
There are huge differences in opensuse and SLEDesktop/SLEServer
Mainly centered around corporate needs and support.
SLED is designed as a replacement option for MS desktops in a corporate environment.
It does cost $50 and $50 a year for subcription
SLES current has ZEN- SLED does not- will be added in the fall w/ sp1
I've been banging away at it for three weeks.
@50 a user in the corporate environment it's very impressive.
PS the Real deal w/ novell is the "workgroup suite" .
$80 a year subscritption includes
SLED
SLES
Zenworks
Groupwise
Open Enterprise Server
And a customized Open Office for Windows that has the visual basic macro capabilities
10 Users- complete productivity solutions from the desktop to the server for 10 users(multiple servers are covered in this too) with productivity tools= $800 a year.
One copy of Vista and One copy of Office Pro and antivirus will set you back that much for ONE USER - anonydigg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It's not just you.
Suse is crappy software which is overhyped!
It's well packaged, but unreliable and poorly designed underneath. Many more garage made distributions outperform it especially when it comes to stability. - jma06, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0> Flame me if you must but of all the distro's I've tried I have had the the worst luck with SUSE. It has never worked correctly for me from 9.0 till now.
My experiences exactly. Suse was my favorite till around that time. From what I read they still have problems in critical pieces of software such as YaST. I have moved to Ubuntu since and enjoy the larger software collection but miss YaST. I am hoping that Suse makes a comeback. - sidebuster, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Dang, Veruca Salt is as mean in real life as she is in Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory...
- Tsuroerusu, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3Duplicate story, got posted yesterday: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Novell_s_new_Linux_ready
- anonydigg, on 10/12/2007, -6/+0The open source version of SUSE was the least reliable OS running under Parallels in OS X. It was the only distro that forced hardware resets on the physical machine; It was also the slowest with setting menus taking time to expand and show up. Pretty but not that great at least in that environment. Based on that I am not expecting much from Xen either.
- verucasalt, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1+1 to visceral, who is laughing at the idiots with me
- threemagic, on 10/12/2007, -13/+3We all know only marijuana smokers use linux, so you are right, memorizing long stuff is hard.
- obey43, on 10/12/2007, -16/+5*yawn* another worthless comment.
enter redundancy... - Visceral, on 10/12/2007, -20/+2What's really funny are the retards responding to this that don't get your sarcasm.
- HoldenDapen0r, on 10/12/2007, -25/+3lollerskates
- verucasalt, on 10/12/2007, -70/+11*yawn*.... It's yet another linsux "distro" by yet another fly-by-night outfit. The world doesn't need more linsux distros or "live CD's"... the world needs a consistent, reliable, focused user experience... something that linsux cannot provide since it is crafted by russian teenagers living in their parent's basements in siberia, who have never seen the sun
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