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- crichton101, on 12/23/2007, -2/+73$10 says the US will be the very last country in the world to go that route.
- SeethisPass, on 12/23/2007, -1/+48Norway looks better every time it is looked at.
- schestowitz, on 12/23/2007, -6/+37Norway is far from alone here and many more governments are yet to follow this example. ODF is supported by almost 30 applications.
- Aensland, on 12/23/2007, -1/+28Hell, they're still using the imperial measurement system, and they don't even have an emperor (well, not yet). C'mon people, get with the metrics program :/
- Kr4t05, on 12/23/2007, -0/+27Of course. When companies like Microsoft, Sun, Adobe and Apple are domestic companies, there's no way the US government would rely on "foreign-made" formats like ODF.
Open source is just another part of the terrorists' plans to undermine the American way of life.
/cynicism - Daggity, on 12/23/2007, -0/+18Don't you know? Open Source hates our freedom!
- there, on 12/23/2007, -1/+19Go Norway.
I think those Scandinavian nations are filled with the most admirable human beings on the planet. Egalitarian, peaceful, free, crime free, and productive. The rest of the savages on this planet could learn a lot from them. - houndeyex, on 12/23/2007, -3/+19Microsoft better get on the ball and start supporting ODF. If people start switching formats and Word doesn't support it, things will be unlucky for Microsoft.
...or we can all just use OpenOffice. Free FTW? - vondur, on 12/23/2007, -2/+17Not only do they believe in Open Formats, they are also known for their Death Metal bands!
- inactive, on 12/23/2007, -4/+18If the U.S. gets any worse, Norway is the first on my list to move to.
- inactive, on 08/26/2008, -3/+16"Norway looks better every time it is looked at."
Michael Moore was right! - gopanthers, on 12/23/2007, -0/+11Apparently THEY'RE much smarter than you are. They understand how grammar works.
- Phlosten, on 12/23/2007, -2/+12Three cheers for Norway.
- Tippis, on 12/23/2007, -1/+11It's just a matter of getting it out of your system early ;)
- MadEnvoy, on 12/23/2007, -0/+9$20 gets you that the US won't ever adopt open standards. To much money lining politician pockets.
- Andrej73, on 12/23/2007, -1/+9Norway cool place.
In every meaning. - iPissExcellence, on 12/23/2007, -0/+7you make us sound like we are elves or something :) keep it coming
- Micherik, on 12/23/2007, -0/+6ehm, isn't this kinda like a dupe?
anyways.. gotta love Norway
Party @ my place if you ever come to visit ;)
bring your own beer though, it costs 5-6$ in stores and 12-15$ in bars and pubs here! - junaru, on 12/23/2007, -0/+6Everyone says that about a country next door
- falafelkiosken, on 12/23/2007, -0/+6And we Swedes say Norwegians are stupid, I take everything back
- Stonekeeper, on 12/23/2007, -2/+7They've come a long way since they raped and pillaged Europe, sacrificing people to thor.
j/k - pintomp3, on 12/23/2007, -5/+10damn socialists!
- inactive, on 12/23/2007, -2/+7Bill would support ODF too, if it didn't cost him billions of dollars by breaking his monopoly on text documents.
- acceleration, on 12/23/2007, -0/+5"Egalitarian, peaceful, free, crime free, and productive" has nothing to do with technological contribution.
- niallabrown, on 12/23/2007, -1/+6This will become increasingly true as Cellphone-UMPC platforms develop further that are not created by windows (pretty much all of them). These platforms wil start to run word processors that are not Word and willl not be able to run OOXML. That is when people will start to understand why vendor lock-in is unacceptable.
- yetAnotherCroc, on 12/23/2007, -0/+4Hm... Lets take a look at Scandinavian tech innovations...
Pacemaker
Propeller
Dynamite
Ziplock
Computer mouse
Computer Colour Graphics
NMT-cellphones (The first cellular phone network to cover an entire nation)
Skype,
Compiz,
AIP-propullsion in subs,
Transponders and airline radars,
MySQL,
etc. etc.
I think you'll find that more then a few things you think are american inventions infact come from Scandinavia.
Oh did I mention the engineer who built the Monitor (The ship that more or less singlehandedly won the naval part of the civil war for the northern states) was a Swede? - Locke23, on 12/23/2007, -4/+8Norway, Norway, Norway.
The country that never seems to go wrong.
Time to swallow our pride and take some examples don't you think? - MattBD, on 12/23/2007, -1/+5Online apps like Google Docs support it, and they may well be what kills off Microsoft's near monopoly on office software.
- glinsvad, on 12/23/2007, -0/+4Once vikings, now admirable and peaceful - aah how the mighty have fallen.
- MattBD, on 12/23/2007, -0/+4You think? Well, I'll tell you a little story.
Just over a year ago I bought a Dell pda, as I was into a little bit of creative writing, and thought I'd be able to start stories on that then transfer them to my laptop and finish them on there. All good in theory, until I tried to transfer them across. I had MS Works on my laptop, which had a perfectly serviceable word processor, but it didn't support Word documents. The pda could only save documents as Word documents or Rich Text. Rich Text didn't work terribly well, there were all sorts of problems in trying to sync documents between the laptop and pda. So I was basically going to have to pay over £100 for a copy of Word.
Fortunately, just in time I discovered OpenOffice, which would also open Word documents, and this eventually led to me dumping Windows for Linux. But many people wouldn't know about OpenOffice, and in the same situation might have been forced to buy a copy of MS Office. - inactive, on 12/23/2007, -0/+4I have to agree
- niallabrown, on 12/23/2007, -3/+6People need to be able to effectively edit the documents that are passed from office to office. Not just view them. And don't waste your breath trying to convince me that HTML is a reasonable solution for that. This is a very big issue.
- andycr512, on 12/23/2007, -0/+3http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_format
"Examples of open formats
(...)
* PDF (for documents)" - drunkwally, on 12/23/2007, -0/+3US Government version: Vendor lock-in is acceptable provided large campaign contribution is received up front.
- Pardis, on 12/23/2007, -0/+3Stutimandal Wrote: Oh yea. Like what technological contribution did Scandinavian countries have had in the past 20 years of computer world?
the comment by There " think those Scandinavian nations are filled with the most admirable human beings on the planet. Egalitarian, peaceful, free, crime free, and productive. The rest of the savages on this planet could learn a lot from them." you need to focus on the part "The rest of the savages on this planet could learn a lot from them." he it not talking about computers, but how PEACEFUL and for the betterment of society they are - SuperInfector, on 12/23/2007, -0/+3No, Dynamite was invented by the the Swedish inventor Alfred Nobel in Germany.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamite - MtheoryX, on 12/23/2007, -1/+4"Phrases like 'national security' didn't even exist until after 9/11."
Really? I'm pretty sure we had an NSA before that. So someone must have been using that phrase...because it's the first two freakin letters of that acronym. - catalysis, on 12/23/2007, -1/+4The only reason other countries are going to open formats is because most of the widely used proprietary ones are from US companies. This isn't because of some noble philosophy, but out of national security interest.
- glinsvad, on 12/23/2007, -0/+3WTF? As I'm sure you understand danish, read bill B103 on the adoption of open formats:
http://www.folketinget.dk/doc.aspx?/Samling/20051/ ... - bosse, on 12/24/2007, -0/+2Other Scandinavian tech innovations are:
Ericsson (cellphones, computers, defense, high tech engineering)
ABB (actually part Swedish, part Swiss)
Nokia (ok, it's Finland, and they speak funny, but they are our brothers and sisters)
Kongsberg Defence and Aerospace (supplies tools of death to the U.S. military)
SAAB and Volvo (although foreign owned now)
Brown goat cheese, the Norwegian way
One of the world's biggest merchant navies
Whaling harpoons ;-) - mcmlxxii, on 12/23/2007, -0/+2I'm a "hater". I loathe overuse, or even use, of the word "hater". It is dismissive and an attempt to stifle discussion.
- inactive, on 08/26/2008, -0/+2Dugg, for voicing my thoughts.
- Kr4t05, on 12/25/2007, -0/+2Them, too. Although, Google does contribute regularly to the FOSS movement in ways that best benefit it's core interests. This is neither an extremely good or bad thing, but the way a company should work. Companies like Microsoft that try to game the system and treat Free Software like syphilis are the sleazy ones. If more companies actually played by the rules and used Free Software to their advantage, we'd see quality software in both Free and proprietary licenses.
Like that will ever happen. - asdfer, on 12/23/2007, -0/+2Norway, Black Metal......
it's mandatory to say: IMMORTAL
http://www.immortalofficial.com/ - inactive, on 12/23/2007, -0/+2quit hatin, bitch
- inactive, on 12/23/2007, -0/+2them vikings really know when to jump ship
- streetstealth, on 12/23/2007, -0/+1The language is pretty cool -- it's actually liberally sprinkled with English cognates (words that look similar to the same word in English) due to the common Germanic roots of both.
- Hoxie, on 12/23/2007, -0/+1guys, you're retarded. I was simply poking fun at the heinous error in the headline. Thus the quotes around the lockin.
Jesus. - williamdyer, on 12/23/2007, -1/+2No government in its right mind should use software that they did not audit the sources of and build the production releases for in any sensitive application. Basic info security. The NSA does strong-arm U.S. suppliers into providing backdoors.
- inactive, on 12/23/2007, -0/+1gotta love windows for linux
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