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- schestowitz, on 10/10/2007, -3/+23It's a bit short (the article, I mean). Here's more from Mark's talk (Wired Mag attended): http://blog.wired.com/monkeybites/2007/07/shuttleworth-ub.html
- jer2eydevil88, on 10/10/2007, -1/+16As part of my job I recommend Linux to people for small business, I have been selling them on Ubuntu because of the LTS (for free) and I am glad that now there is a time frame set for the next version.
- prosthetichead, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13I'm not one to praise windows but if windows XP SP2 is crashing at least 3 times a day your doing it wrong.
- bieber, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10There is a fully functional broadcom driver. The problem is that your wireless card requires binary firmware to operate. If you want that changed, bitch at the manufacturer, not the Ubuntu folks.
- helfire, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10Well you'll have to wait until April 2008 (hence 8.04, year.month)
- mikusd, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6itchy iguana? irritating impala? illegal immigrant?
hmm that last one seems like a winner ;) - DarkN00b, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5That ".04" is the month of the release in Year.Month format. Therefore 8.04 would be April 2008.
- Turr, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8Soon someday..
in the future
there will be a fully function Broadcom driver
but i can dream can't I ?! - Spr0k3t, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6The bcm43xx deb works fantastic. You don't even need to set up ndiswrapper for it.
- starsky51, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5IN THAT CASE, PLEASE RESIST THE TEMPTATION TO CLICK STORIES WITH THE WORD 'UBUNTU' IN THE TITLE! ahh that's better.
- crazybrit, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4ndis wrapper usually works fine.
- Spr0k3t, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4It will be interesting to see what components are going to be a part of 8.04. Any ideas for the "code name"... can they reuse 'H'?
- barbobot, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4You need to specify the ammount of memory to be used by the initrd image, in grub's config menu.lst put ramdisk_size="8192" under your kernel, it will fix it.
- Spr0k3t, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Your logic is backwards. Purchasing hardware from a company to find out it does not work with your operating system... only to complain to the operating system for not offering direct support? Hang on a second... where did the money go when you purchased the hardware? To the hardware manufacturers. So who do you complain to if the hardware doesn't work? That's right, the hardware manufacturers. Your best bet is to purchase hardware which already has known working drivers. It's not hard to find a laptop without any of the broadcom chipsets... same goes for most wireless cards. Besides, is it really the developers of Ubuntu who are responsible for the lack of drivers? Or could it possibly be someone upstream? If you go to Broadcom and ask for the HAL documentation on their chipsets so you can write a fully supported and open source driver for their hardware... they tend to spit blood on your face. You can't find perfect drivers for all broadcom based wireless cards in almost any distribution... so why are you complaining about Ubuntu for their lack of support which shouldn't be there in the first place? (/rant)
- Spr0k3t, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Perhaps he's using WindowsME. We all know how much of a dream that one was.
- LastDitchHero, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Please, break his system with autobreakcrap.....
- Spr0k3t, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Turr, please be aware of the benefits and downfalls of Automatix before jumping into it. I used it with 6.10... it broke my system. I tried it with 7.04 and made it worse. However, your mileage may vary with it. Just make sure you have what you need before diving head first into the shallow end.
- venom8599, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Sucks for you then.
- schotty, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I must concur, any crashing is indicative of flaky hardware or unclean power. A bad power supply can also be the culprit, but alas, fits into the flaky 'hardware' category. These days Win XP/Vista should not crash.
BTW, I am a primaily a "Linux Guy" running Red Hat variants on all my systems (Fedora 7 here on this machine, CentOS/RHEL on my others). Just that the crashiness of Windows is just not a valid complaint anymore. The NT based kernels are MUCH better than the evil 9x garbage. - Churnd, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I'm not a Windows advocate either, but stupid comments like this do nothing to help the Linux movement. Please shut up.
- sqrt7744, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3you should both stop bitching. The package of interest is called bcm43xx-fwcutter. No ndiswrapper, etc. It has worked on a number of install for me without a hitch.
- TripinVA, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I had the same problem. But break=top in the boot options and then when it stops you at the prompt, put "modprobe piix" or "modprobe ide-generic" if the former does not work, then type "exit" and off you go. Assuming, that is, that yours is the same problem I had.
Not that I'm saying it shouldn't be fixed. Just that there is a workaround for you. - TripinVA, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I had the same problem. But break=top in the boot options and then when it stops you at the prompt, put "modprobe piix" or "modprobe ide-generic" if the former does not work, then type "exit" and off you go. Assuming, that is, that yours is the same problem I had.
Not that I'm saying it shouldn't be fixed. Just that there is a workaround for you. - sqrt7744, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Damn why hasn't anybody thought of that before? I'll get right onto it. Thanks for the tip mate! Now, if only I weren't retarded :(
- DarkN00b, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Nope. they already did "Hoary Hedgehog".
- Spr0k3t, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Normally I complain about people shouting. Digg++
- Churnd, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2From my experience, hardware related errors in linux usually point to an incompatible bios. If you're running the latest, you might need to flash back to an older one. If not, update your bios!
- Spr0k3t, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3As 1337 as your name sounds, your lack of knowledge in Linux is astounding. Grammar skills aside and all.
- TechCF, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Well help us Ubunteeros out and ask Broadcom (and specify open-source driver). The more that ask the bigger the chance to get one. They need to know the world is bigger than the WinXX world
- starsky51, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3reuse (tr.v.) To use again.
- ZekeSulastin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Wait, so you're saying that Linux has to be obscure to really be Linux, as opposed to one that many users who would consider switching would be comfortable with?
It's retards like you that help keep Linux out of the mainstream. - TechCF, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I liked the first one :)
- sqrt7744, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Captain Kirk, is that you?
- Izzie, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1last time I've seen windows crashing daily was back in pre-windows 98SE times, then I switched to NT and experienced very little crashes. I've been running win2k since it's been available and I can count on my fingers the number of times the system crashed in the last 4 years. I didn't downgrade to xp and will not downgrade to vista.
I tried using ubuntu in its 4th version and dropped out, but from then I tried each new version, I dropped ubuntu 5 (breezy badger) then dropped ubuntu 6 (dapper drake then edgy eft) to get kubuntu 6 (edgy eft) which I'm still using today but will soon upgrade to kubuntu 7 (Feisty Fawn).
have to say I experienced way more system crashes with ubuntu than I do with windows, but I'm way more accustomed to w2k and now how to tweak it while I'm still learning how to use kubuntu.
I alreday learned that I could have save a couple months by dumping gnome right away for any GUI that don't prevent me from using my computer the way I intend/want/like.
I'm still baffled by how GNU/linux is so behind what the freeware community added to windows feature-wise (supercopier, utorrent, foobar2000, GUI ftp client,...) while being way advanced on other features. - abandonedhero, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1***** (n): insulting terms of address for people who are stupid or irritating or ridiculous
http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=*****
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/***** - LANjackal, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Good move by Canonical
- shavenlunatic, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2er, we'll be onto H by then... Horny Hedgehog?
- weoh, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1bcm43xx stops working after a few minutes and i have to reload the driver to get it working again, but again it dies after a few minutes. ndiswrapper works fine though.
- troydoogle7, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1@sqrt you got me to laugh out loud.... nice chirp
- shavenlunatic, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1ah, as they're skipping H, yer gonna be in for "Itchy Internals"
- GliTCH82, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1I'm not even talking about hardware I purchase after I already convert to Linux, I'm talking about hardware I already have and that's been out for years. How is it that Microsoft has support for 90% of all hardware right out of the box but Linux somehow can't do the same thing?
It's a lot easier for an organization like Ubuntu to be taken seriously with other big organizations such as hardware manufacturers, than for one consumer to call in and bitch about not having the driver he needs for his operating system. As it stands, I have no incentive to do this for Ubuntu because Windows already has all my drivers. I tried to switch and was not able to get Ubuntu to recognize my ICH7R RAID10 volume to no avail. It was much easier for me to switch back than to call and complain. If Ubuntu wants a bigger market share, they're gonna have to step up, and I don't care what everyone else using Ubuntu says, that's just how it works. Microsoft works with other companies to get preliminary support for most hardware out of the box. No reason why Ubuntu can't do the same. - MavRevMatt, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1Didn't we already know there would be an LTS release in '08? I mean WTF does he need to announce it for?
- JonLatane, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1Um... wasn't Feisty+2 always LTS? Even before Feisty? Hell, even before Edgy?
- mikusd, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0you fell short of amusing sarcasm, sir (or madam).
- perlhacker14, on 10/10/2007, -2/+0Hopefully no one will use Ubuntu and use something better like Debian for servers and/or desktops... Even Red Hat would be a better alternative.
- CCmachined, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1Ubuntu: Linux for Human Beings!
A Free Operating System for the masses, not that many people even know about it :( - ufaithfull, on 10/10/2007, -8/+6Nice, been using Ubuntu 7.04 for about 2 months now...Crashed....hum, ONCE...while Windows about 3 times a day. And I was doing the same thing. Reading websites.
- AcousticBoom, on 10/10/2007, -10/+7Could be worse. Could be another iPhone article.
If i see one more of those i'm gonna.............. - fLUx1337, on 10/10/2007, -9/+3Wish they would stop adding .04 to the end of their main releases...
Ubuntu 8 sounds far better.....
Doubt I'll being upgrading, unless my system gets messed up....
Anyhow, its just my dev box (server), so theirs no need...
I like windows - Magisbladius, on 10/10/2007, -7/+1Call me when the infamous "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" error gets fixed -- without me having to buy new hardware. Otherwise, none of the Linux distros have ever been compatible with my year old hardware (ASUS PW-DH5, PATA HDD and DVD Drive).
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