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New Nokia N800 Internet Tablet available now
linuxdevices.com — Nokia has quietly begun delivering an upgrade to its Linux-based 770 Internet Tablet. The Nokia N800 Internet Tablet is available now from at least two retail stores in the U.S., priced at $399.99, CompUSA's Chicago "superstore" has confirmed.
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- schestowitz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I guess the 330 was just a rumours then...?
Nokia's 770 successor to feature GPS?
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| Several sites around the Internet are reporting on a
| rumored successor to the Nokia 770 Internet Tablet
| that could ship in time for the 2006 holiday
| gift-giving season. The so-called "330" tablet appears
| to be smaller, more entertainment oriented, and to
| have built-in GPS capabilities. Nokia had no comment.
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http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6587556759.html- deviceguru, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6The 330 turned out to be an entirely thing -- doesn't run Linux, Windows Mobile, or any sophisticated OS:
"Nokia's 330 is simply a navigation device"
http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS2533522538.html - PCDestroyer, on 05/04/2008, -0/+1The N810 has built in GPS
- deviceguru, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6The 330 turned out to be an entirely thing -- doesn't run Linux, Windows Mobile, or any sophisticated OS:
- finite, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Posting this from my new N800 now... It feels about a million times faster than the 770 (okay maybe only 2x really) but... unfortunately my first video call was not so good. Many dropped frames of both A & V.
I suspect compusa wasn't supposed to be selling these before the CES launch next week, because Nokia's tableteer site (the default homepage) redirects me to a password prompt :) i'm not complaining though!- drizek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2what is the cpu speed?
- ArrowApollo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I just bought a 770 a few weeks ago! I like the 770's look better anyway.
- nofxjunkee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Whatever makes you feel better. :)
- mooninite, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I bet this doesn't have an A2DP Bluetooth profile either. What's the deal with Nokia dragging their ass on Bluetooth profiles? LG, Motorola, and Samsung all outgun Nokia when it comes to Bluetooth.
- plum, on 10/12/2007, -11/+3Still ***** design.
- roprot, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Do you need to sign up for a contract with that price, or is there nothing to 'contract for' with Nokia's tablets - you just get them on your own WLAN and off you go?
As a programmer, these things seem like the ideal way to go - develop software for it, deliver said software on a cheap platform. Awesome!
(Still kicking my GP2X fleet around, however..)- ssam, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7no need for contract. is a small computer not a phone. it can do voip. it connects to the internet via wifi, or a bluetooth phone.
- JQP123, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1"is a small computer not a phone."
An interesting concept with huge potential; however, standalone wireless connectivity is still the essential, missing ingredient. Without this, it's just a niche product. Blackberry will continue to dominate the business market in my opinion, at least in the US. - 4NDr01D, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10blackberry sucks
it screams middle management
tethered to email, no mater the time of day
no you don't have an assistant, you are the assistant...
I laugh at anyone using one - JQP123, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"I laugh at anyone using one"
Like RIM cares, they're laughing all the way to the bank.
- n3tfury, on 10/12/2007, -8/+4boy is that a niche device.
- ffttoteof, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9No more screen cover? Isn't it likely the screen will now get scratched up when it's in your pocket or backpack or whatever?
- ssam, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5specs are at http://thoughtfix.blogspot.com/2007/01/critical-question-answered-yes-n800-is.html
- ck01, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Pretty cool. I hope their screen is better now too. Hopefully, it will give iRex (iLiad e-reader), HanLin, Sony and others some pressure to drop prices on their multi-function e-book reader products.
- mashedup, on 10/12/2007, -6/+5Don't even think about buying the 770 ! I made that mistake, when the device breaks down (the 770 Nokia white screen of death is only a moment away) Nokia will disown you. That's my experience here in the UK. After you spend two weeks trying to find where you have to go to have Nokia fix it (Nokia have no idea about this product and how it gets fixed and they will send you on a wild goose chase of different outlets at your expense of course. When you finally do find a repair center to take it they will take 6 weeks to return it, unfixed of course. In the end I had to hire a lawyer to threaten Nokia UK with legal action that got it fixed 4 weeks later. But of course same thing again, white screen of death faulty video chip. The device itself is very slow crashes on the hour, every hour. I love Linux, but I could never recommend this device and Nokia's repair and customer service is an absolute joke.
- marcuso, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Unlucky! Mine works a treat - hasn't crashed at all.
I just wish that the battery life was better (about 3hrs when you are connected to WiFi) - zetsurin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I had a very similar TERRIBLE experience with my 770 in the UK. Screen broke about a month after purchase and the support line was incredibly rude and wouldn't deal with me unless I provided them an IMEI code from my 'nokia phone' (even they didn't know it wasn't a phone). I went through a hellish couple of weeks of jumping through massive hoops with their support and finally had the unit picked up. I was told to package it as it was new for pickup. A week later I get the unit back repaired sans packaging or battery or anything - just the bare unit. I had to chase nokia down daily after that and finally got the rest of the gear and promptly sold it on ebay to wash my hands of the affair.
It would take an amazing device for me to ever bother with such a Nokia product ever again. Works gadget experience of my life by a mile. - zetsurin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6And I will add that almost every bloody 770 cracks it's case between the USB and audio sockets. Nokia continues to deny it's a problem.
- zetsurin, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3Wow, dugg down for posting factual content. Lovely example of how democratic moderation simply doesn't work.
- edk4971, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I LOVE my 770.. Most of my use of it comes in the form of maemo mapper and my bluetooth gps (AMAZING system btw) but in classes I take notes, I have my calendar and contacts on me at all times, battery life seems pretty good (it will survive at least a 6 hour trip while connected to a bluetooth gps) although I haven't done a lot of testing with wifi running. Nokia needs to look at some of the more successful open source projects (obex push comes to mind) and add that functionality out of the box. But since it runs linux, if it doesn't do something you want it to do... chances are there's a program out there somewhere that does that just needs to be ported to ARM so quit your bitching.
Between wifi and my cell phone, I have internet access anywhere in the world more or less, which is nice when I need it
oh and I haven't seen any of the h/w problems all the above people have posted about, nor have I heard of anyone else having them so your experiences sound kinda rare... - mallardtheduck, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Firstly, the occurrences of hardware in the 770 problems are greatly exaggerated. Most people base their impressions on forum posts, but forums inherently contain a disproportionate amount of complaints and problems.
(Estimated statistics follow).
The WSOD (screen failure) probably happens in 2-5% of devices, however, having it happen once will increase the chance of it happening again (theory is that a minor fault in the power circuit causes the LCD to fail, but they only replace the LCD when sent for repair.).
The "crack of doom" (crack near the ports on the bottom) happens in at most 10% of devices. In most of these cases, it is a purely cosmetic problem, but in some cases it can lead to parts of the plastics falling off. In a few cases, the presence of this crack has been taken as evidence of misuse by nokia repair personnel.
Nokia support has had some issues with the device, but these cases seem to becoming rarer.
Software stability is very good with the 2006 software (the original devices shipped with 2005). Software start-up time could be improved, but this is an issue even with desktop Linux.
With swap enabled (easy to do in the control panel), the 770 has enough RAM and is fast enough most of the time.
Occasionally people get software issues from corrupted software images or a re-flashing error. There appear to be some devices that have severe stability issues probably due to hardware fault.
I have owned a 770 since April 06. My experiences have been overwhelmingly positive, especially with the 2006 software. My only major issue was when the GTK+ theme became corrupted, but this only affected the 'look' of the GUI, it was still functional and was easily fixed by re-flashing the software (I have of heard no other instances of the problem I had).
I will be purchasing an N800 when I have the money (probably Sept-Oct).
- marcuso, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Unlucky! Mine works a treat - hasn't crashed at all.
- jdpeek0, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4no we can sell them, I work at compusa we got a shipment of twenty sometime this week.
the distributor would tell us if we couldn't, well usually
anyways its a nice system and it still runs linux - ZaNkY, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Dupe, but I won't complain (since my submission is so old it fell off the queue :P)
Check out the high res pics at Flickr: http://digg.com/gadgets/Nokia_s_Internet_Tablet_Unboxed_and_renamed_Nokia_N800_HIGH_RES_pics
When I say high res, I mean 3888 x 2592! :D
--ZaNkY - simonvc, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Can someone put a duggmirror link up, i cant work out how to do it and the sites real slow already.
- deviceguru, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1the system had gone down, but now it's back
- Mike_SL300i, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The Nokia N800 looks to be an all-round improvement on my Nokia 770 which I personally love because of the opensource software development continuously ongoing from it's user community. Take a look at www.maemo.org and the list of applications already available for the Nokia 770 at http://maemo.org/maemowiki/ApplicationCatalog2006
InternetTabletTalk is also a handy drop of point to read about the Nokia 770 and now Nokia N800 http://www.internettablettalk.com/
I currently have a post in my blog to keep track on information being posted in various Forums and Blogs about the Nokia 800 and its comparisons with the Nokia 770 etc http://mikesl300i.blogspot.com/2007/01/nokia-n800-internet-tablet-on-its-way.html - beg513, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1does anyone want my 770?
I think i'm going to have to sell it - pinesol101, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Where's the KEYBOARD?
- ssam, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2when you order the n800 from the nokia website there is a bluetooth keyboard listed in the accessories.
- jimrooney, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Keyboard's onscreen (touchscreen) or bluetooth.
You can hack it to be USB master and use a USB keyboard, this is clunky however... the bluetooth works well. I use the onscreen for all but long emails.
Faster processor is nice to be sure, but I'll wait to hear something more compelling to upgrade.
(USB master without the "power injector" hack would do it) - absolut1983, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0More about it:
http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS7056717365.html
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