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- wfmk, on 10/12/2007, -1/+29yes, we can read.
- Democritus2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Thanks for the response, but I do not buy it.
If adobe thinks it is "too hard" then perhaps they should turn over the code to someone else. Or just come out and tell us Linux users to ***** off.
(yes I am grumpy about it) - Haiyadragon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Still vaporware. And even if they do finally release a 32-bit Linux version, Flash 10 shows up a week later, for Win32 ofcourse, and we play this game all over again.
I stopped using Flash about a month ago. As a response to a digg article like this one. This is worse than simply being ignored. - Tuxbunta, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Made the switch to Ubuntu a few weeks ago, and every day since I run into sites which requires the latest. Luckily most offer downloads, but the lovely bastards at cnet don't. It should be illegal to create and control a standard and not support it on a major os like Linux, but I guess asking not to be screwed over is too much these days.
- garoo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Has anyone heard about a 64b version?
- fakesman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4The answer to your question can be found here, September 25th's blog entry, right under the part that says "What could possibly be so difficult about porting the Flash Player to Linux?"
http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/
The short answer is: libraries, libraries, libraries. - tonyr1988, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Actually, the article says it's pre-alpha even.
- rbtopp, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5@HeyGabe
go back to the apple section fanboy - Democritus2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3haiyadragon- i am with you on this one (see above post).
I use nothing but amd64/opteron machines, and it is a royal pain to get any Flash working (yes, I know the process).
I think I should go your way and just refuse to use it all. - nocircleno, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Don't think it is happening, go request it to Adobe and hopefully they will develope it.
- motang, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Finally some progress, hopefully by the end of the year we shall have a stable release.
- xsxs, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Gimme!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2wait till you see apollo!!!
- drzeus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Last time I checked, neither Mike nor Tinic said that it was "too hard". They're simply chronicling their progress, and that includes a few bumps along the way that ANY software project hits, but it seems to be going very well.
In fact, while folks are busy telling them that they should ask for the community's help, they are already are working with various project teams int the open source community to eliminate library issues. These are issues that your average project on SourceForge might not encounter because Flash has one big rule: A SWF needs to work the same and look the same across all platforms. Thus, certain versions of certain libraries are required to ensure this cross-platform compatibility. An open source project can be released as pre-alpha 0.0.0.0000.1a, but Flash needs at least a minimum before they'll do even a beta release.
By the way, word on the street is that Flash 9 for Linux is going through a beta certification RIGHT NOW!
From the blog of Emmy Huang (Flash Product Manager)
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/emmy/archives/2006/10/flash_player_9_3.cfm
"I know the first question that just popped into your head is "What about Linux?" The answer is: QE has not skipped a beat and is starting the beta certification of the Linux player which will go live on Adobe Labs when it passes the certification tests. You'll have to estimate when you think that will be on your own. ;-) Yes, it will be the same version as what was released today in the Win/Mac beta on Adobe Labs." - nocircleno, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Well talking is the best you can do. There only so many things that can get done in a development cycle and a limited about of hours. Best you can do keep bugging them.
- Grimboy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1While I don't agree with the parents statement about the law (I am of the opinion that the law should primarily defend people from companies and each other and do nothing else.). I do agree with the sentiment. Yes, initially the linux kernel was initially made to be something that was initially broken (of course that was just so the devs could have the fun of starting from scratch). However, modern day PC unix-likes have loads of working, high-quality, free software and kernels used in production versions of distros are stable as a rock, and if they is no hiding and predending it doesn't exist. If you insist on ignorance then fair enough. I can't force understanding in to you. It seems some people are just born stubborn.
As for flash player, all I can say is that adobe is getting off its arse a bit, but it seems to me that there aren't enough resourses being put into the linux version. If adobe want to push flex as a platform for web-development (wouldn't be my choice personally) then they can only persaude potential customers by making sure that their customers' users will be able to use their applications. - Resseguie, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I talked to Adobe about this at JavaOne this last May. The guy sounded very interested in my concern and said he'd "bring it up when he got back to the office." Of course, I still haven't heard anything about it. I'm still having to run Firefox in 32b mode.
- jlward4th, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0For more info on the 64bit stuff:
http://www.kaourantin.net/2006/07/random-bits-on-current-status.html - TomFrost, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3So exciting!
Linux users, for years, have been relying on a horribly built Flash 7 viewer. From that inadequacy spawned Gnash, the free, open-source flash viewer. But things were progressing so slowly -- it will be *wonderful* to finally be able to use flash until Gnash is up to par! - Democritus2, on 10/12/2007, -8/+4***** Flash and all who work there. *edit (ok, well not all who work there, as they are just schmucks who need the money like the next guy, so it really is not their fault)*
Seriously. Is it really that hard to put out a Linux version, or work with free software/open source people so it can work?
Another example of a god-damn company try to control *****. - nocircleno, on 10/12/2007, -8/+4Gnash will never be up to par with the Adobe Flash Player, because Adobe drives development of new features. And I'm am happy with that as a Flash Developer. Gnash has potential to break the build once, run on all OS/Browsers that have that version player installed. Not O' and that Gnash player that a few run on linux. It sucks to wait for anything, but it is coming.
- VinceNoir, on 10/12/2007, -6/+0Hehehe... that delivery reminds me of this old Mickey Rat comic strip where some Jehova's Witnesses wake him up on a drunken weekend morning. He tells them to leave him alone. THey ask if they can share the word of the Lord with him and he says, "If it's not smut, I won't read it". You remind me of Mickey Rat!!!
- ndansmith, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2If there is no PPC version, I am not interested.
- HeyGabe, on 10/12/2007, -13/+1Ain't that what makes people like Linux? I mean, I thought the appeal of Linux OSes was that they were broken most of the time. If you want a computer that works most of the time might I suggest Apple ][, becuase if the goverment mandated support of niche OSes, that's where technology would have stayed.
IIt should be illegal not to support Amiga. I mean, some people used it. - LlFT, on 10/12/2007, -43/+0Pre-beta...
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