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- mattlee, on 05/14/2008, -0/+51WBUR, the NPR news station is streaming its broadcasts in a free and open format, Ogg Vorbis. This is good news, because it removes a reliance on proprietary software, such as RealPlayer or on patent-encumbered formats like MP3.
- McShr3dd3r, on 05/14/2008, -15/+49I don't get it
- makosharkattack, on 05/14/2008, -1/+33Amazing news! I really do hope that other stations will follow WBUR's lead!
- xXShadowstormXx, on 05/14/2008, -2/+32What are you guys doing? Don't bury him. Not everyone knows as much in something in which you might have a lot of experience/knowledge in.
- TRScheel, on 05/14/2008, -1/+27And burying it potentially hides the answer from others...
Its like you all say you love open source then squash anyone who has a curiousity in it - calcnerd256, on 05/14/2008, -1/+22Yay, Ogg!
- mz00m, on 05/14/2008, -2/+23I'm an NPR junkie and all... but WTF is Ogg Vorbis?
Oh.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorbis - autosovereign, on 12/06/2008, -1/+23I've always loved WBUR - listen to it every day :)
- doctorcaligari, on 05/14/2008, -1/+17I wish I could mod you up 10 times. All too often, I see the same thing happen on Linux boards, where new users are berated for not knowing arcane command line scripts.
- piratehead, on 05/14/2008, -0/+12I really wish my local radio stations would stream in a free format!
- flashingcurser, on 05/14/2008, -0/+12Sounds very good for 22k. Much better than mp3 at that bandwidth. You can listen to it with winamp.
You can listen to a high bandwith ogg station here:
http://classicrock.virginradio.co.uk/thestation/li ...
Virgin radio classic rock is very safe for work. - th3wiz4rd, on 05/15/2008, -1/+11You shmos bashing vorbis need to understand that a lot of software including a ton of recent games use vorbis for 2 reasons:
1. It's free
2. It offers high quality at low bitrate (like mp3, arguably better)
For example, check this out:
http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/Games_that_use_Vorb ... - ArielMT, on 05/14/2008, -0/+10I have consulted the Great Oracle Of Graciously Liberating Enlightenment and received these two cryptic answers:
http://www.google.com/search?q=ogg+codec+windows+m ...
http://www.google.com/search?q=ogg+codec+itunes - moghua, on 05/14/2008, -0/+7Canada's CBC has been streaming ogg for a couple of years now.
http://www.cbc.ca/listen/ogg.html - blup3ace, on 05/14/2008, -0/+7I'm proud they're my local station!
- greenlight2001, on 05/14/2008, -4/+10Perhaps you should spend less time with NPR and more time with digg!
- DeadPanDan, on 05/15/2008, -0/+6Right. The people who are most qualified to recognize superior technology should be ignored.
- hayzeus, on 05/14/2008, -2/+8We've apparently "shown our support" by killing it.
- charlie55, on 05/14/2008, -4/+11this makes it easier to fulfill my obligations as a white person.
- inactive, on 05/15/2008, -0/+6Thats part of the beauty of ogg vorbis. A stream at 24kbs with the ogg audio codec would sound about the same as a stream at 96kbp in mp3.
- DontGiveADamn, on 05/15/2008, -0/+4This is why I own a Cowon media player, they play ogg and flac.
- TrbleClef, on 05/15/2008, -0/+5And even though diggers around the world desperately click their thumbs-down button whenever they hear us say it...
...this is NPR, national public radio. - toodamfast, on 05/15/2008, -0/+5sounds fantastic. I want to know why every music player does not support ogg? its free...
Works in Amarok. - desertpenquin, on 05/14/2008, -0/+4My only hope now is that they will follow up this move by championing Open Source OS use, too.
- ooh456, on 05/14/2008, -6/+11I agree more people should use this technology. It's too bad they picked such a dumb name for it. That is probably holding it back more than anything.
- courtjester555, on 05/15/2008, -0/+4Car Talk FTW
- Aiwanei, on 05/15/2008, -0/+4things like this are the reason why I donate to WBUR everytime they have a fund drive. I am on the mass/nh border, and while nh public radio is good, it doesn't compete with wbur in my opinion.
- ArielMT, on 05/14/2008, -0/+4London's Virgin Radio has been streaming in Ogg Vorbis for a few years as well.
For the bandwidth-impaired (16 Kbps):
http://network.virginradio.co.uk/core/audio/ogg/li ...
For those with 160 Kbps to spare:
http://network.virginradio.co.uk/core/audio/ogg/li ...
Source: http://www.virginradio.co.uk/listen/ - cparker, on 05/16/2008, -0/+3I agree that this story is in the wrong category (What does NPR have to do with "Linux/UNIX"? Ogg Vorbis can be played using proprietary software, too.), but seriously, man, you need to get a hobby.
- wellyuk, on 05/14/2008, -1/+4Well done :)
- Trixrox, on 05/14/2008, -2/+8Is there a codec for .ogg that will work with Windows Media Player or iTunes? I guess I'm lame and use pretty closed programs.
- Trixrox, on 05/14/2008, -1/+5I guess it is personal preference. I find NPR to be the most balanced news station. People always say they tend to be liberal...but compared to NBC ... etc they are pretty damn balanced. They definitely aren't like Fox either.
- MrCanard, on 05/15/2008, -0/+3Works with Rhythmbox.
- jdpalite, on 05/14/2008, -0/+3Me too!
- Jowe, on 05/15/2008, -2/+5I ***** LOVE OGG VORBIS
- DeadPanDan, on 05/15/2008, -0/+3Excellent argument. Honestly, I don't know what I was thinking.
- DeadPanDan, on 05/15/2008, -0/+2Other formats have been more popular because they used simple processing that could easily be put into a portable player. Now that it's common to have what amounts to a mini-PC in your pocket, you'll be hearing more about it.
- Aiwanei, on 05/15/2008, -0/+2Yeah whenever I'm in the car I have wbur on, though I admit I sometimes switch to NH Public Radio.
- econofast, on 05/14/2008, -0/+2Yes, as well as (as they are more than happy to remind you) by You, Our Listeners
- Jforsyth89, on 05/14/2008, -1/+3This is pretty cool. I now have an NPR file in my music player just like any other song, that streams live when I click on it.
- absurdist, on 05/15/2008, -1/+3www.free-codecs.com
k-light codec pack or k-light megacodecs pack.
Simple. unlike the condescending ***** above. - Trixrox, on 05/15/2008, -0/+3Yeah, well the vorbis codec didn't do anything for me, it doesn't support streaming at least, that is why i asked.
- inactive, on 05/15/2008, -0/+2Just use XMPlay from http://www.un4seen.com/
Built in support for Vorbis and other formats. It's only 357k - inactive, on 05/15/2008, -0/+2Mmm, My favorite.
Good thing because it's becoming hard to get MP3 stuff working in some distros. - mesasone, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1Enjoy your commercials. As for me, I will continue to listen and donate to NPR and APM as a more than equitable trade off for the hours of quality programming they provide.
- ArielMT, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1Please accept my humble apologies for misunderstanding the nature of your request. When I last had the chance to use a Windows system I wasn't repairing, I didn't have the opportunity to stream any music, only to listen to files ripped from my CD collection. I believed that they supported streaming, and I believed so without verifying one way or the other. I'm sorry. Dugg.
- raynevandunem, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1PBN? Don't you mean PBS (Public Broadcasting Service)?
http://pbs.org
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Broadcasting_S ... - SanjayM, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1Amarok - ***** Yeaaaaaaaaaaaa
- Borbus, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1This story would be more suitable in a "free software" or even "free culture" category... but there is no such category...
Nobody is trying to "take credit" for Vorbis.... the story is just most relevant to free software users who do not like to use proprietary software. For a Windows user I think FLAC is important to them but not Vorbis... Why would a 'doze user care if there streaming media is not decoded with a free codec when their whole OS is non-free? - Wander, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1Why isn't "All Things Considered" on a podcast?
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