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- amfantasy, on 09/18/2008, -7/+237I hate when companies listen to their users. I have nothing to complain about :(
- Spr0k3t, on 09/17/2008, -3/+230A massive thank you to the Mozilla group for listening.
- dejanigma, on 09/17/2008, -6/+158Yaaaay.. Now I can use it on that nuclear bomb I was workin on!
- arjie, on 09/17/2008, -2/+114"We also want to tell people about the FLOSS license — as a notice, not as as EULA or use restriction"
I wouldn't mind an extra page opening up at first load saying, "What's special about the Mozilla licence" or something in a similar vein but better put. You know, like when you upgrade it opens an extra tab saying, "What's new".
Hurray for listening to the community. - pandaking, on 09/18/2008, -0/+104Makes Google Chromes EULA seem comical!
- hexydes, on 09/18/2008, -3/+83This is why products like Firefox are destroying products like Internet Explorer.
Cheers to Mozilla for doing away with worthless nonsense. - kalphegor, on 09/18/2008, -0/+74+1 for Firefox/Mozilla.
- rebelwoaclue, on 09/18/2008, -1/+70"Mark Shuttleworth, founder of Ubuntu, urged users to calm down while Canonical, the company behind Firefox, and Mozilla worked on the problem."
Canonical is not behind Firefox. Either the sentence was very poorly written or just completely wrong. It would be nice to see some editorial oversight, even if it is self-editing. Otherwise, good news and a definite demonstration of the power of FOSS. - thecheatah, on 09/18/2008, -4/+63you can still buy microsoft products....
- Elranzer, on 09/18/2008, -1/+55"Buy" ?
- ninjaskimo, on 09/18/2008, -1/+38allow me to introduce you to Comcast..
- Daniru, on 09/18/2008, -1/+37Atomic Firefox
- rawnzilla, on 09/18/2008, -3/+32NERDS GET IN FIGHT OVER BUTTON, PROBLEM RESOLVED PEACEFULLY BY OTHER NERDS.
FILM AT 11. - Spawn2105, on 09/18/2008, -2/+30I don't really care if i have to agree to EULA's, but the fact that Mozilla listened to the community and reacted this way is outstanding.
Kudos to you Mozilla / Firefox, thats how you keep the community happy. - Phssthpok, on 09/18/2008, -2/+29[[Whats so hard about clicking ok like once in your life time :S? ]]
[[ITS ONLY AN OK BUTTON ITS NOT FREEKEN]]
No, it's a binding contract. So go back to fifth grade and ask your teacher what that means. - powatom, on 09/18/2008, -1/+26It existed. Part of the FOSS mindset is that software usage should be unhindered. An EULA is a roadblock before you can use the software - regardless of how liberal that EULA is.
- whahaa, on 09/18/2008, -3/+25crap, i already agreed to it.
- powatom, on 09/18/2008, -0/+19Probably just a slip of the...hand? The writer probably meant to say 'Canonical, the company behind Ubuntu' or something similar, but was thinking about Firefox. That kind of thing happens quite a lot - but you're right, an editor should have caught this.
EDIT: Oh, and now it's been fixed :) - nickert0n, on 09/18/2008, -1/+19This wouldn't have anything to do with Chrome would it? =p
Never the less, Awesome Mozilla, Create a Digg account so I can Digg you up, and then you can go home, and be like OMGAWDFASFAS I got dugg so deep today! - fuckingusername, on 09/18/2008, -5/+23I still just click ok and it works the same.
- Vektuz, on 09/18/2008, -0/+17Several problems. First, nothing else on default Ubuntu tries to hinder your use of your system any way you want to. Secondly though, the moment you have an EULA appear that you have to agree to, it becomes questionable whether it can be used in say, a corporate environment, because now the laywers have to okay it before anyone can use it. It could eat into the corporate installbase.
And then some users just don't like the idea of agreeing to anything, no matter what it is, when they didn't have to before. - D4rk5, on 09/18/2008, -1/+17Ask and you shall receive...
- Durrok, on 09/18/2008, -0/+16It's great that they listen to their user base. I recently reported the "dugged" extension as resolving to an ad site (It added links to duggmirror.com which now resolves to freegoogleads.com or some other bs) and they had the extension removed and contacted the creator in less than an hour. Keep up the good work Mozilla! :)
- blackeagle613, on 09/18/2008, -0/+15just an error
"sjvn // Sep 18, 2008 at 8:31 am
Whoops!
Bad fingers! Bad!
Thanks for the catch. I’ve corrected the story.
Steven" - Cassanova, on 09/18/2008, -4/+18Can someone explain to me why the EULA was so bad? Did you have to promise your first born or something?
- zcreem, on 09/18/2008, -0/+13Nothing I bet the submitter just has more friends and so shouts louder.
- hexydes, on 09/18/2008, -0/+13I guess I needed to be more clear that it was not this one action by Mozilla, but just a general harmonious relationship they attempt to cultivate with their users. Yes, I'm aware that most people don't read EULAs; that isn't the point. What is the point, is the fact that this is not the first instance where the Mozilla foundation has listened to its users and bucked the trends of the industry, replacing the norm with what the users wanted.
THAT is the reason that products like Firefox are destroying products like Internet Explorer. I hope that helped clear everything up for you. - Vodd9, on 09/18/2008, -5/+17So, what was the problem with the EULA?
- Yazilliclick, on 09/18/2008, -6/+17wtf are you smoking? 99.9% of users don't read the eula nor care about it. This is an answer to a question nobody asked pretty much. Everybody asking about this was using it anyways.
- HonoredMule, on 09/18/2008, -0/+10Silly customer, EA's mandate is farming or hunting for PROFIT. You're just the crop, or the soil...or in some cases, the deer.
- HonoredMule, on 09/18/2008, -3/+13"As long as you still use /any part of Gnome/GTK+/, you'll have nothing to worry about.
There, fixed it for ya. - hexydes, on 09/18/2008, -1/+10I think it was the point that EULAs are worthless, and the open-source crowd is very critical of them, so there wasn't really any point to it being there.
- inactive, on 09/18/2008, -8/+16i'm so relieved. now i can go on with my life.
- Noobuntu, on 09/18/2008, -0/+8I believe it required you to either accept to respect their name and logo as their property or somthing, or else you can't use the program even though it's open source.
The Ubuntu team had a stripped version of the browser with no names or logos called "abrowser" as a backup plan in the repositories if it was going to be a problem. - neFariou5, on 09/18/2008, -2/+10i hope that one day by clicking agree, you remember this moment when you are asking yourself why you are in prison for using software for something you thought was legal.
Just clicking agree isn't the issue, it's what you are agreeing to! - CCmachined, on 09/18/2008, -0/+7i hate it when i queue up a load of installs in synaptic, then the process stops and i expand the terminal inside the synaptic window to see a license accept/deny request....
also, pages and pages long EULAs are a pain in the freakin ass for everyone. Firefox is free, open source, etc. it doesnt NEED a license. just add "this is GPL code and content" to the README and that's enough. - weizbox, on 09/18/2008, -6/+13How dare Mozilla try to educate people about free software....
- zcreem, on 09/18/2008, -0/+7There is nothing racist about what you just said I'm sure, but you're certainly xenophobic, most words in English are originally foreign, Greek Latin French German, Arabic, and yes even African.
- TeacherOfHeroes, on 09/18/2008, -0/+7The EULA was in there to warn people that Mozilla has trademarks on the Firefox brand. Really, a EULA wasn't even the right place to say this, as something under the About dialogue would do just fine.
- hexydes, on 09/18/2008, -1/+8Firefox took the de facto standard for web browsers from 100% to under 75% in less than five years. How many other products can say that?
- pjpete, on 09/18/2008, -0/+7You submitted your story about 4 hours later than this one.
- melonhedd, on 09/18/2008, -5/+12As long as you still use Pidgin, you'll have nothing to worry about.
- estacado, on 09/18/2008, -0/+7I use HairyBeaver.
- hexydes, on 09/18/2008, -0/+7I'm sure you're trying to be ironic or something by comparing them without mention to Microsoft, Internet Explorer, and the critics who wanted Internet Explorer remove from Windows. There are a number of flaws with this reasoning though:
1. Firefox can be removed from Ubuntu at any time.
2. I'm pretty sure if you use advanced installation mode you can uncheck the Firefox package from being installed.
3. Canonical does not own Firefox; that is Mozilla.
4. In fact, Mozilla doesn't really even "own" Firefox per se; they own the trademark or whatever mark the logo and name fall under. The source code belongs to everyone.
5. You suck at irony, or whatever that was you were attempting to do. Please refrain from doing it in the future. - valleyman86, on 09/18/2008, -1/+7Isn't the EULA there to protect Mozilla in case someone wants to sue them? Didn't know there were any restrictions using firefox...
- 2Bnor2B, on 09/18/2008, -0/+6I wish other some other companies listened to their customers as well as Mozilla..
{Yeah, I am talking to you EA Games !!} - craighoxton, on 09/18/2008, -0/+6Do you still have to think in Russian to use it?
- Gavagai80, on 09/18/2008, -2/+8Your definition of "destroying" is to be clobbered a little less badly by IE than everyone else is? IE has 75% market share, not Firefox.
- burkhartmj, on 09/18/2008, -0/+6Gavagai80. Firefox has taken noticeable marketshare from IE every year, and continues to grow. I'd like to know how that's being 'clobbered.' Opera has been around for years, and couldn't do it, yet Firefox is pushing through to the mass market. Even my college recommends Firefox over IE on all of its websites.
- JohnFlux, on 09/18/2008, -0/+6if by free software you mean US export licenses, Trademark protection and liability, and if by educate you mean force the users to agree to the terms and condition if they want to run the program, then yeah!
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