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- jackhole, on 10/12/2007, -2/+30Sure, you can forget about Ice Weasel, but you can't forget about the [reply] link.
- dsn0wman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23Very cool! Now we can forget about that heinous ice-weasel.
- 0siris, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18Good. Ice Weasel was the worst name choice ever. Almost as bad as Hoary Hedgehog....
- nx01, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Anyone who has been around the Linux community knows that this is going to be quite a bit of wasted effort. The sheer number of distros, and all of the politicking involved (and yes, they ALL have them!), means that Mozilla and it's volunteers will be knee deep in the internal crap workings of each and every distro out there. Here's a suggestion:
Make a Debian package, an RPM, and a source tarball. Just because distro Q decided not to include the latest GCC, or xyz package is not, and should not be Mozilla's problem. Keep the focus on what's important (making a good browser), make the effort to create standardized packaging for the most popular package managers, and let the rest be other people's problems. - EndofEternity, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I think that Mozilla should focus equally on the three major platforms, I think it's stupid to suggest that a fork. Forks aren't good for the situation that you described.
- antdude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4And Ice Ape.
- Ademan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4A fork isn't the answer, the answer is simply collaboration, I'm glad to see this happening. Also, the crashes are actually the fault of the Flash Player most of the time. I've also had trouble with the totem-firefox plugin (for viewing movies and whatever within firefox). What we need is a mplayer plugin for firefox, they've got one for mozilla...
(well the totem troubles have been my own experience, however the flash problems are well documented and there is a fix for it)
Having said that I can't help but wonder if Mark Shuttleworth's extending an olive branch to the mozilla foundation has anything to do with their change of heart.
On another note I never had nearly as many crashes as I'm having now with ff 1.5, it seems to be problems with the 2.0 release, not neglect for linux - joesmeat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Idealy, there should only be one DEB package for both Ubuntu and Debian (and their derivitives.)
- lengau, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Normally there is. If you build to the Lowest Common Denominator (Etch?), you should be able to run it on the rest of the systems.
- macewan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Show more respect for that man, without him we would be where we are today with this alternative system.
- Xilon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If this means that when Firefox X.Y alpha Z comes out, I will be able to go to the Firefox website and download firefox-x.yaz-amd64.deb, then I am all for it!
One thing that pisses me off is that it's impossible for me to compile the current firefox source code, and very difficult to install the vanilla binaries. Another thing is the lack of x86_64 support.
Debian is also pretty damn slow with updates... at least with Firefox 2.0 due to the whole IceWeasel thing... 2.0 only came out like a couple weeks to a month ago. - Xilon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Ideally yes, but that's like providing one package for Debian stable, testing, and unstable. Dependencies vary so it's not possible to just have one package for X amount of distros. And since Debian tends to be stable or testing, and Ubuntu is a derivative of Debian unstable, it just won't happen.
I think VLC did it pretty well: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
They probably included too much support though, I think it would make more sense to just support these:
* Debian GNU/Linux
* Ubuntu Linux
* Fedora Core
* SUSE Linux
* Red Hat Linux
* Slackware Linux
(not sure about red hat) - ceralor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1That would be enough, but sometimes a few more distros don't hurt. If it were up to me, I'd work with a Deb package, RPM, Ubuntu build, Portage build (that's properly updated), and the source tarball. Don't ignore the two more popular distros.
- stockjones, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0This is where too many distro's rear its ugly head. I know it semed cool that anyone can make their linux distro, but now things get so fragmented its like all the problems that plagued Unix all over again.
- biggbrother, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1Mozilla had definitely neglected Linux for at least a year (went for the money). Firefox was yet another reason to use Windows rather than Linux.
On Ubuntu, mine crashes all the time, and I'm not the only one with that problem. It's also dreadfully slow to get an updated version, and a bit of a nuisance to install the new version from their website, considering everything is automatic in Windows.
I was in favor of a fork of Firefox to eliminate the Windows advantage, maybe this will fix the problem. - NewChar, on 10/12/2007, -10/+1Hoary Weasel on the otherhand...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -18/+1 Ice who?
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