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- z00k, on 01/15/2009, -4/+72I want an OS that is based on Mortal Kombat.
- inactive, on 01/16/2009, -6/+62I am sick of the Linux vs. Windows pissing contest.
- Kriztov, on 01/16/2009, -0/+46I'm root
- minorgods, on 01/16/2009, -2/+42also in the news, bananas attack grapes for fruit superiority. Bananas still better in banana splits, grapes still make better grape juice.
- Dalhectar, on 01/15/2009, -12/+43On my tower, I'd rather have Win7.
On my desktop replacement laptop, OS X.
On my netbook, rather have Linux. - theragu40, on 01/16/2009, -1/+28You'd take ubuntu over linux, eh? I'll bet you would.
- mdmcgee, on 01/16/2009, -0/+23Buried for the total lack of combat.
If you mention Mortal Combat I want finishing moves, blood and death.
Not 8 paragraphs of Linux aggrandizement followed by yeah, Linux wins.
Bare minimum we need to see a Windows CD go through the shredder. - 6oo63D, on 01/15/2009, -8/+27I'm rooting for the underdog.
- xlocust, on 01/16/2009, -1/+18I want linux on my server
- cquinnd, on 01/15/2009, -0/+16Maybe not, the spelling corrections are brutal.
- JonForTheWin, on 01/16/2009, -3/+18GNU/Linux, Ubuntu in particular brings new life to "old" hardware (Pentium Ds with 1gig of RAM) which a lot of non-DX10 fanatics (as in families, relatives of friends young and old) still have and expect to be able to fully operate on. They have everything they need, and 95% of the time like the Mac it "just" . . *****, "works". Being the "technical guy with the fancy high-paying tech job" everyone comes to me. I support about twenty friends and acquaintances, all using Ubuntu. They don't ask me for help more than once a year on average. If you're the "technical" guy all your friends know and come to for help, do yourself a favor, stop supporting windows.
- a2fan, on 01/16/2009, -11/+26How can Windows 7 be called an upstart? It's got years of legacy code and left-over, warmed over technology, backwards compatibility and interface ideas from Microsoft's previous operating systems handicapping it. If anything, this is a pig with a new shade of lipstick on it.
- DrLazer, on 01/16/2009, -0/+14Instead of a segfault, you get a FATALITY
- MillionsLivio, on 01/16/2009, -5/+18Seriously, this Linux vs Windows 7 ***** has got to stop. Neither is going to "destroy" the other, drop it already.
- samanathon, on 01/15/2009, -7/+19IT STILL IN BETA!!!!!!!!
Holy crap people, the product it's even officially out yet. - shapul, on 01/16/2009, -5/+17On my desktop I'll go with Windows 7
On my laptop I'll go with Windows 7
On my web server I'll go with Linux
On my super computer in my lab, I'll go with Linux
As for OSX, well, it's on my iPhone - cquinnd, on 01/15/2009, -2/+14I'm rooting for the end users.
- Digglet69, on 01/16/2009, -3/+14Shouldn't it be OS Kombat instead of Mortal OS Kombat because the first word is what it doing said Kombating. and if the OS'es are fighting then it should be OS Kombat......
- inactive, on 01/16/2009, -1/+12I'm afraid to be root:
I'm sudo - eroticpie, on 01/16/2009, -3/+13until linux gets a nice lineup of games it will never fully take over windows as a desktop operating system, same for OSX, I love OSX to death but I still have to boot into windows if I want to play any games
- Ceryn1126, on 01/16/2009, -0/+10dual boot?
- LostSoul83, on 01/16/2009, -1/+10*runs outside and yells* "MORTAL KOMBAT!!!" :)
ahh the 1990s...
Seriously though, my vote is for Linux because I'm not funding the DRM machine! I prefer my OS to work ten years from now when the authentication servers go down. - ileftfark, on 01/16/2009, -0/+9Why does it have to be one or the other? Go nuts- install 145 operating systems!
http://www.justlinux.com/forum/showthread.php?thre ... - Phych, on 01/16/2009, -1/+9Microsoft needs to follow the other OS's leads and release only one freekin version that doesn't require a loan to purchase.
- thinkharderest, on 01/16/2009, -0/+8Microsoft needs linux, without it, they probably would have gotten away with vista. Competition is good.
- HonoredMule, on 01/16/2009, -0/+8"Just because it's loading something in the background doesn't mean it's not at a point completely usable by the user."
No, the fact that launching applications or trying to access the start/context menus results in nothing but more whirring and grinding on the hard drive for another minute means it's not at a point completely usable by the user. - mikelieman, on 01/16/2009, -1/+8BootStartTime 2009-01-14T02:55:47.687200300Z
BootEndTime 2009-01-14T02:57:49.113370300Z
57:49
55:47
02:02
2 Minutes from BootStartTime to BootEndTime, by your own logfiles, and you're saying something about 19 seconds?
And that's 2:02 without BIOS POST, too. - Patori, on 01/16/2009, -1/+8"GET OVER HERE!"
- TheWindBlows, on 01/15/2009, -1/+8I think this is Google strategy "BETA" = stable product fooling people interpretation of Beta.
Though the issue is that some BSoD shouldn't even happen they should be application crashes, but they're taking down the entire system. Such as network file transfer related, simple "previews" of text size increasing, yes this was repeatable for someone every single time. Those should cause a crash of that control application then maybe resume with an error message saying file a bug report, not kill everything that was being done and requiring a reboot. - HanSolo69, on 01/16/2009, -1/+8Can we please move this discussion into the more existential question of whether operating systems are mortal?
- mdmcgee, on 01/16/2009, -3/+10You do realize Linux encounters the BSOD too, right?
It's called a kernel panic and ALL operating systems encounter them, just not all of them are blue.
They are most often encountered when a "user" purchases the crappiest hardware they
can find because it is .50 cents cheaper.
They saved half a buck but the hardware is as stable as a 2-bit crack whore.
I'm not defending MS. I don't use their software but your statement that W7 sucks because someone
got a BETA product to "panic" is borderline retarded and your whole tantrum after that doesn't even remotely make sense. - etx313, on 01/16/2009, -0/+7Grammar Police weee oooo weee ooooo
- depro9, on 01/16/2009, -1/+8Stop buying windows &the game makers will follow or go under.
- Metasquares, on 01/16/2009, -0/+6That might make it a bit more difficult to kill rogue processes.
- kvgirard, on 01/16/2009, -0/+6i just got ubuntu 8.10 and windows 7 installed along side xp today. triple boot ftw
- gcnaddict, on 01/16/2009, -1/+7theragu40, I got owned. I meant Ubuntu over Windows 7, but regardless, I still got owned. /diggs up
@mrtherapist, too many for my own good. Think you can help me out? - DjOverEZ, on 01/16/2009, -5/+11"I'm rooting for the underdog."
Why would you root for Windows 7? - kiwiboyus, on 01/16/2009, -0/+5I've got Ubuntu, XP Home, OS X and now Windows 7 on my Wind right now. Windows 7 is a lot nicer than Vista and prettier than XP but Ubuntu with Netbook remix is still my favorite.
- jejones, on 01/16/2009, -1/+6"The Linux percentage is dropping and the return rate is three times higher than the equivalent laptops loaded with XP."
Why might that be, I wonder? I bought an Eee 900A at Best Buy; couldn't pass up the price, and it was the only one they had that wasn't contaminated with Windows. Lovely display, and I can deal with the tiny keys.
It comes with Xandros Linux, and had a nice interface... but uses UnionFS. A neat idea, and makes it possible to press Fsomething when you boot and go back to the initial state--but it ate the vast majority of the tiny 4GB SSD they saw fit to put on it. An automatic download of a dozen updates that occurred when I first connected it, and the SSD was full. Poof--an unusable netbook.
I, not being Joe Average, Googled a bit, wiped Xandros, installed Ubuntu Eee, and am a happy camper with over 700 MB free on that 4 GB SSD. Fine for now, though I'll upgrade to 2 GB of RAM and a bigger SSD.
Joe Average, or far worse, young Joe or Josie Average squealing with delight at getting a computer for Christmas, would NOT know to install a different distro. They, justly, would be furious at getting something that immediately makes itself unusable, stomp back to Best Buy, and probably get upsold to a bigger netbook or notebook with Windows, assured that they could get some real work done with it. Would they blame ASUS or Best Buy? I bet they'd blame Linux, for ASUS's poor decision to use UnionFS with so little available space.
If I wanted to make Linux look bad, I could not do much better than just what ASUS did with the model of Eee that I bought, and I have to wonder whether that was exactly their intent--they can protest that they gave Linux a chance, but people just didn't like it and kept bringing them back! - mithrasinvictus, on 01/16/2009, -0/+5You would "get a windows netbook on sale" while "netbooks are for coffee shop dorks" ?
- inactive, on 01/16/2009, -1/+6sounds like you have a lot of computers.
- smegthelight, on 01/16/2009, -0/+5And it's still rotten bananas and sour grapes.
- wiphye, on 01/16/2009, -2/+6Why does anyone care who wins market majority. As a consultant I support, install, and recommend all three operating systems every day. I have the same complaints everyone else has about each system but each one has its own strengths and should be used accordingly.
If you are building a small embedded device or a massive cluster you would be nuts not to use Linux. Linux represents choice and by doing this introduces complexity that some see as a strength and others would rather avoid.
If you want to play games or maintain compatibility with the last 20 years of the majority of software it is Windows. Windows offers good hardware support and large library of legacy applications but that has lead to security issues and certain amount of complexity itself.
If you don't have any legacy requirements and want the least amount of system administration then it is OSX. OSX, being BSD Unix based offers some choice but the closed nature of the platform limits this on the hardware side. On the up side everything can be tested and thus leads to a more stable system.
Everything has its place and there is no point in arguing over it. In fact I am happy the competition is there. Would window 7 ever get a decent command shell if it wasn't for the other two? Would it have the areo interface improvement if it wasn't of OSX and compwiz on Linux? Probably not. Would OSX and Linux be as cutting edge if they weren't trying to gain market share from Windows?
As end users and technology advocates we only benefit from this perceived mess so I for one am thankful. It only makes my business stronger.
I think that the only thing we should be concerned with is access to our data. All the opertating system can coexists pretty seemless these days. What cause most of my problems is data locked up in proprietary applications. Things like moving Word files to non MS systems or translating wierd database file formats. This is what we should harping on. - JonForTheWin, on 01/16/2009, -0/+4"a kernel panic will still take down the entire system" . . the kernel virtually *is* the ***** system
- PinkyTheWinky, on 01/16/2009, -0/+4I think he's saying that he's a coffee shop dork?
- Beerduck, on 01/16/2009, -0/+4I hate all these articles where Linux is compared to one thing or another. Linux is just the kernel running a non graphical OS. How about "Ubuntu versus Windows 7". Makes slightly more sense doesn't it?
- mdmcgee, on 01/16/2009, -0/+4OSX doesn't compete with windows but Linux does?
Comparing windows to OSX is most certainly not like comparing firmware on routers to a router.
They are both Operating Systems primarily used for the desktop. Seems to me it makes more sense as a comparison than to Linux which is more often (currently) used on the server. - inactive, on 01/16/2009, -4/+8Even if you steal windows, you still support the platform, you still buy the games for windows.
- inactive, on 01/16/2009, -0/+4Forget boot times, awake times.
It can boot for 4 minutes for all I care, so long as it wakes up as soon as I open the lid. -
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