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- tadelste, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5This mornings news story instigated by the Boston Globe against Peter Quinn is pure slime. They're investigating him for going to some conferences. The amounts are peanuts. This isn't a Tom DeLay trip to Scotland's Golf Course for $500,000 where a Preston Gates and Ellis credit card receipt shows payment of the hotel and where the Microsoft lobbyist arranged the travel itinery.
This is dirty.
Digg Andy's story story. Don't let this slip through on a holiday. - oepapel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4" It's business. If you ran a multi-billion dollar corperation, you'd ***** do the same thing"
No, it's NOT business! America (the most pro-capitalistic society on the planet) has laws specifically to prevent manipulation of the press, undue pressure on the government through lobbying and market leveraging a monopoly.
Just because you got away with it in the past doesn't make it right. If you shoplift, you are breaking the law whether or not you get caught. Trying to argue that it's only illegal unless you get caught is unsupportable and ultimately self defeating since you operate under delusion of more protection under the law than you actually have.
Does Microsoft get away with more than it's fair share of law-bending? Sure. But it is still wrong. - helios, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4You gotta be kidding me. These people don't think for a moment this move will not be hooked up with current OSS efforts in Mass.? This is the height of both arrogance and Elitism. Cheeze-whiz on a stick! This Globe piece confirms my suspicions.
They think we are idiots. I wonder if they pass out their list of us to the NY and LA Times?
helios - penedo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3To Helios
You and I maybe not idiots and can see through this, but the average guy on the street who hardly understands what's going on and that Open Standards are not company-specific (and that MS can support ODF whenever it decides) it may mean that "this guy got bribed from open source companies and that's the only reason he supports them".
That's why it's important to promote any news item which shows how dirty is this allegation. - tuxchick, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I'm starting to believe that the pro-MS fanbois actually approve of MS' dirty tricks and underhanded dealings. MS' slimy deeds have been making headlines for years- a person would have to live in a cave, have an overdeveloped denial facility, or approve of their skanky tactics in order to be a Microsoft supporter- there are no other explanations.
- stimpack, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I don't think you lose your moral compass and become a filthy lying thief automatically on becoming a success in business.
As a capitalist I would become a socialist overnight if that was true. I prefer to believe its just some Redmond based scum that go to such evil filthy lengths. - 16x9, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2> thenik wrote: "It's business. If you ran a multi-billion dollar corperation, you'd ***** do the same thing."
I wouldn't. And anyone who would is scum. Are you scum, thenik? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"Microsoft has reached out to a couple of politicians in Massachusetts and gotten them to object to the process of this decision."
nothing dirty about it. Open Source groups have their own lobbyists. - MasterDwarf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The thing that kills me is the fact that the paper reported it on their front page!! Regardless of right or wrong, the press today, in the US, is totally crap. Everyone wants to influence them. Impartial, informative, journalism is a thing of the past. Hey media, get a clue. It's about a guy that went on a business trip for the state and forgot to fill out some bureaucratic bs paperwork. It's like someone said, its not Tom Delay-type 'business trip'. It's not whether your for open source of MS, it reeks of bad journalism and bias IMO.
- tdkyo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2>>Nice try *****. But you look bad, not Microsoft.
You look worse by attacking another's viewpoint without any ground. Kids these days.... - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"PatrickStar: I don't work for Linspire. ROFL>>>>"
sure, you don't. - mingistech, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Office is the ONLY thing MS does good.... they need to hold on to their baby for dear life.
I'm a Mac user.. and I use Office for the Mac on a daily basis.
A nice alternative on the Mac is NeoOffice.
It's a S OSX native port of OpenOffice.org without X11 needed.
http://www.planamesa.com/neojava/en/index.php - tadelste, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1PatrickStar: I don't work for Linspire. ROFL>>>>
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Everybody knows Microsofrt windowsXP only cost $2 in chinese supermarket, while Linux cost $45 at Office Depot.
- tadelste, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Never said I hate them. Don't like their tactics. You know their dirty. (cop speak).
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Microsoft - what a disgusting company.
Always trying to justify their sleaze by trying to claim "everyone does it"
Scumbags.
This pathetic attempt at character assassination isn't going to stop the dumping of the overprice and proprietary Microsoft tax on document formats. - PunkOfLinux, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Microsoft has reached out to a couple of politicians in Massachusetts and gotten them to object to the process of this decision. The politicians have raised issues that mandating ODF would also mandate use of OpenOffice and that OpenOffice's open source license would mean that any commercial product that attempted to comply with the mandate would also become open source. This would certainly cause commercial vendors to avoid participating in Massachusetts IT tenders, thereby reducing choice for the state.
No - if they honestly think that anything that uses OpenDocument format will automatically become open-source, all they are doing is working to spread their FUD of "This is ANTI-BUSINESSS!! IT WILL HURT BUSINESS EVERYWHERE!!! Don't allow it, because it will OBVIOUSLY end business." - tadelste, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@jkfan87 Microsoft did start this stuff in Massachusetts. They do have something to do with it. Really. Microsoft Counter Attact
Mass IT Office on Defensive
Microsoft: We were Railroaded in Mass
Over a hundred articles exist about this. - tadelste, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It's all over the press. I'm not going to do your research for you. You believe what you want to believe and are misinformed, ill-informed and basically a redneck. We spent a week reading how Microsoft lobbyists got the secretary of state and a senator to hold hearing over ODF. Where did the Globe guys get their tip? We're talking a few hundred bucks in travel. Also, if you read the article, Quinn's boss was interviewed and explained the whole thing.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1it piss me off lots about the odt fromat
www.frontlinetech.blogspot.com - TheNik, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@tadelste - If you got your ass out of the imaginary company you run, you'd see I was directing that towards people who hate Microsoft.
- tdkyo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0>>This pathetic attempt at character assassination isn't going to stop the dumping of the overprice and proprietary Microsoft tax on document formats.
You can say overpriced or whatever you want to say, but regardless they spent a LOT of money on creating these formats for consumers use. The efficiency of using investments for making these formats are another discussion, but criticizing for overpriced formats even though large money was invested to this development is just uncalled for. - tadelste, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I don't know what happened to the links above. Sorry about that.
http://searchopensource.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid39_gci1144104_tax298901,00.html?adg=298793&bucket=NEWS
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1880329,00.asp
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-5893208.html - tadelste, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0From the first article:
Microsoft has reached out to a couple of politicians in Massachusetts and gotten them to object to the process of this decision. The politicians have raised issues that mandating ODF would also mandate use of OpenOffice and that OpenOffice's open source license would mean that any commercial product that attempted to comply with the mandate would also become open source. This would certainly cause commercial vendors to avoid participating in Massachusetts IT tenders, thereby reducing choice for the state.
This isn't new. What's new? Going after the man who made the decision to go with Open Document Format instead of Microsoft's. - TheNik, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1@tuxchick - It's business. If you ran a multi-billion dollar corperation, you'd ***** do the same thing.
- M$Whore, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0
"You believe what you want to believe and are misinformed, ill-informed and basically a redneck"
redneck, I can't argue against that, Jefferson City, Tennessee born and raised.
But you still failed to provide a link to the evil empire and your story, I understand how stupid an bookkeeping error it is. But you title, way Microsoft, and you have no link. Only implications of how you "believe what you want to believe" - kiwimonk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1You guys are all paranoid. I love microsoft. You should too.
- Blackthorne, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I don't get it. You clearly can write, yet you didn't have time to write a link summary?
- tadelste, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0@thenik my ass isn't in an imaginery company. I don't run it anymore. I sold it. I agree that "hate" is non-produtive. I just happen to know some very important people in the open source arena who might just really hate Microsoft. For example, the Minister of ICT in Brazil who Microsoft sued bringing open source into the country; or Michael Robertson who founded MP3.com and started Lindows and was sued by Microsoft. Microsoft lost and then sued him in a foreign country where Windows wasn't a part of the language. Mark Shuttleworth is a pretty important person who runs a major company is a billionaire and founded the Ubuntu Linux distribution. He's trying to educate kids in his native South Africa and Microsoft is interferring.
You sue someone and they will hate you: pretty normal response.
No imaginary company. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0tadelste works for Linspire.
- tadelste, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0thenik: You don't know what your talking about. You wrote: You all don't run super-important businesses, aren't the IT managers for an entire state or country, you all are just sheep with the rest of the country.
First, I don't hate Microsoft. Secondly, I have been the CEO of a super-important business and have advised Ministers of ICT in different countries around the globe. I also have partnered with the largest computer company in world, the largest bank in the world and have done so for various operating systems. You just do not know what you're talking about. You're a jerk. And you're fired. - M$Whore, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1OK then, disprove my argument
- TheNik, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1People who hate Microsoft rarely have a reason to. You all don't run super-important businesses, aren't the IT managers for an entire state or country, you all are just sheep with the rest of the country. You all hate Microsoft because it's the cool thing to do. MS isn't the only large company that manipulates the government and laws to get their way, they just happen to be the hot topic for the nerd community to fire their verbal cannons at.
When you make the software that can compete against Microsoft, then you can bitch about it. - secretivecoward, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0If you hate Microsoft so bad, why not run for office yourself and switch everyone to OpenOffice?
- 4answer2, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Duh, report your trips. This is not rocket science!
- tadelste, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0M$Whore: your handle fits.
- J-Kinderman, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Using windows is like having sex with an AIDS patient
- M$Whore, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0"So it would be highly gratifying to Microsoft and those trying to maintain the status quo if someone could turn the tables and try to smear the proponents of open source and open standards with similar influence" - from TFA
This article offers no connection between Microsoft and the publicity of the article. The Open Document Format is something that has gathered a lot of attention of the past few months, and certainly in the city of Boston. It seems to me that implying Microsoft involvement and now having any facts to back it up sounds a lot like ... oh whats the word ... oh yeah FUD!
The trolls over at lxer.com seem to take this to the next level with their selected title. But, what would you expect from a group that gives a review of anything M$ with objective opinion of "don't get it because it sucks"
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