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- sajchurchey, on 05/10/2008, -9/+98I guess Microsoft will have to continue selling Windows XP after all because no current version of Vista will run on the limited hardware of these platforms. Unless they slim down Vista, they will not be able to keep an updated operating system in this market. They can reduce the Windows Tax to compete, but they will have to spend millions more to keep competitive in this market. It is just another example of Microsoft trying to play catch up.
- Grovulent, on 05/10/2008, -1/+59I convinced my gf to by an eee asus (linux version) yesterday. She's very happy with it. It runs faster than ubuntu does on my 1500 dollar laptop.
- adderx99, on 05/10/2008, -6/+58heres a thought for microsoft. try working on a superior os that doesn't suck ass
- sfacets, on 05/10/2008, -0/+42My mother recently bought one, hasn't looked back - it is all about the perception people have of what Linux is.
- Sammi84, on 05/10/2008, -6/+48I'm a Linux user and I would like to ask you to please stop selling Linux with false promises and predictions.
That's a lofty statement of yours without anything to back it up with. Linux has been consistently behind Windows in hardware support, especially for new high end hardware, mainly because of lack of driver support from hardware manufacturers. This will only change when Linux gets more popular, because then user demand will force hardware manufacturers to make drivers for their OS platform(Linux).
It's the classic chicken and egg problem. It will take time and only time to resolve. - sfacets, on 05/10/2008, -15/+56Microsoft keeps holding back technological potential - kind of like when the Catholic church monopolized society and held back scientific knowledge. It is now the time of the corporation to halt progress.
- matriculated, on 05/10/2008, -3/+44There's no way in hell I'm going to run XP, an anitvirus and scan for spyware on the limited space and memory available on these low cost PCs! The revolution starts now people!
- SilverhammerMBA, on 05/10/2008, -2/+36Wait, wait. Microsoft is trying to undercut a FREE operating system? How does that work?
- kingofpenguins, on 05/10/2008, -5/+35Slim down Vista? Won't this just be XP?
- bumcheekcity, on 05/10/2008, -5/+34It's like a company were trying to turn a profit by not having two products directly compete with one another. It's madness, I tell you!
- Jawshey, on 05/11/2008, -1/+27OK, I'm looking at this from a slightly more balanced view.
I recently received Linux (Ubuntu) and I loved it. It was easy to use, everything worked - no problems. I made the switch earlier this year from Windows to Mac, cause I couldn't stand it anymore, and it was only recently I got a spare laptop to play about with and I switched to Linux.
I have to say, Linux is quite unique, and since it's open source, it'll always be technologically advanced and tailored to the needs of the individual, not the masses. Which is a good thing, as it doesn't need half the hard drive clogged up with free trails of software I'll never ever use.
However, there are those that are not that convinced yet. Nor have they been properly informed of the potentials of Linux, and won't be bold enough to make the jump from Microsoft strangle. That is where I think this new plan might be a slight threat. Since many people know and use Microsoft everyday (you know, since it dominates the current market), people are too scared to change, or are too familiar with the constricting OS that is Windows, to switch over to Linux.
I think that many manufacturers are going to take an interest, even if its slight, to consider this, as it's easy prey to those who think Windows is the better option, because they have either never tried Linux, or do not wish to stop giving Ballmer his fat pay check.
I think more manufacturers should take a stand like Asus have with the Eee PC, and make the Linux version more luxurious than the Windows, and then hopefully Linux should win the eventual OS war
That's if Apple doesn't enter the market. People will pay anything these days if it has an 'i' before its name and a Apple logo stamped to the side.
Jawsh - YodaJones, on 05/10/2008, -10/+39Actually what nobody at Microsoft seems to get is that Linux is not successful only because of the price of the products, it's because of the better quality and security. At this point even if Microsoft Windows was free it could not change the fact that Linux will eventually win this OS war.
- zwaldowski, on 05/11/2008, -0/+28It's weird... how does a "stiff" discount from Microsoft battle against a $0 Linux license?
- andrewtheart, on 05/10/2008, -1/+26So we can add low-end computers to the global Windows botnet. Thanks, Microsoft!!!
- andrewtheart, on 05/10/2008, -2/+26If the people at Wine make Win32 binary compatibility so good that the average or semi-advanced user doesn't notice the difference, Linux will truly take over. Wine is already absolutely incredible, just needs a few more years of serious development. It's already good enough for me, just not 100% of users.
- davidlow, on 05/10/2008, -4/+28Microsoft is taking their first baby steps at marketing in the new post-monopoly world. They still don't get it, though. Dictating hardware specs is monopoly-think.
- andrewtheart, on 05/10/2008, -1/+24That's a good point. Someone is going to have to make a *very* lean virus/spyware scanner for these machines or they will just be little virus infested pieces of junk.
- protogenxl, on 05/10/2008, -5/+27Why don't they just keep XP alive and rename it?
- DomZy, on 05/10/2008, -1/+25Next you'll be telling me an open source web browser can't compete because windows comes bundled with IE, right?
That's why firefox has hit 28% share in Europe, and continues to grow everywhere else. I'm pretty sure it hasn't been 50 years as well. - Myztry, on 05/11/2008, -2/+22Microsoft constantly slims down it's OS. I brought Windows in 1995 on 5? floppy discs. The last copy of Windows I brought was on was CD.
The first was a stack over an Inch thick. Now Windows is only about 2mm thick. Much slimmer... :) - Smiff2, on 05/11/2008, -2/+26maybe, but not nearly as fine as the default Xandros...
compare the boot times for example, (which is very important in a mobile device)
then you might see linux does this job better. - Jexie, on 05/10/2008, -4/+25b..b.b....b.b.but the free market always leads to the best possible products!
- srg13, on 05/11/2008, -0/+17"Boot time isn't everything. DOS's boot time would beat Linux... but who cares."
But the thing is, the Linux distro that the EEE comes with can do anything Vista can do, but starts up much faster. DOS is even faster, but you can not really do anything useful with it. - inactive, on 05/10/2008, -2/+21In this case, Linux is part of the market. I use Linux--I'm typing this from Ubuntu 8.04. Because it introduces free competition to go along with Apple's OSX and Microsoft's Windows, Linux forces them to compete and do better.
- inactive, on 05/10/2008, -4/+21Markets that they do not already monopolise?
- sirhomer, on 05/11/2008, -3/+19Only a really naive person (aka a Microsoft fanboy) would think that Microsoft is in it to improve technology.
When we look at new ideas, we don't evaluate whether the idea will move the industry forward, we ask, 'how will it help us sell more copies of Windows?' -Bill Gates in The Seattle Weekly, (April 30, 1998) - mrfanboy, on 05/10/2008, -3/+19Erm... boo(!)
Seriously though, people should quit whining and let the market decide. Linux is forever making in-roads into Microsoft's territory, and will continue to do so despite this top secret reduction program. In such a market where price point is a more important factor, perhaps people won't bother with the £16 per license when Linux can offer it for free. - thecompkid, on 05/10/2008, -0/+14The only people I know who still use IE only use it because they are unaware of the alternatives (and I don't have the time to go down the list). The firefox marketshare has nowhere to go but up as more people are enlightened.
- DigitalPioneer, on 05/10/2008, -1/+14Actually there are pleeennnnty of open source standards. Now, I understand, m$ bribed, blackmailed, cheated and coerced OOXML into ISO, but that doesn't make it worthy of being a standard. That just means someone sold out. Many, MANY of the standards we use every day without even knowing it are open.
Also, there's plenty of money in Open Source, go ask Google. - socivitus, on 05/10/2008, -1/+16free vs. not free in LOW COST PCs, now i'm no genius, but I think most companies will see the light.
- microft, on 05/10/2008, -1/+15The thing all you Microsoft guys don't understand: Linux is not profit oriented, even if some companies make mony off of it.
There is no way a proprietary, closed OS can compete (fairly) with and open one.
This becomes extremely obvious when the hardware capabilities are limited.
When you use an open OS, you can "cut out all the fat". - tama00, on 05/11/2008, -5/+19and give it a new interface so people wont know the difference! ..... wait a minute.....
- nebkiwi, on 05/10/2008, -1/+13"Browsers are just simple programs that nobody cares about" uh huh, thats why your using one now..
- inactive, on 05/10/2008, -0/+12What an intelligent comment hennman. "And OS is hella complicated"...
- inactive, on 05/11/2008, -1/+12just another reason for me to detest microsoft
- Smiff2, on 05/11/2008, -0/+11great, let them... it'll just make the linux versions even better (and even faster).
Microsoft is trying to prevent competition against Vista, but what they don't realise is that most people soon won't care about the OS - hardly even use the OS - they just want a web browser - the rest is just a nuisance. - 3leggedHorse, on 05/11/2008, -1/+12 What a ***** load of crap. There really must be some nut jobs at Microsoft.
- jarkkop, on 05/10/2008, -0/+12What about tose?
- Myztry, on 05/11/2008, -0/+10Poorly... Microsoft are still missing the Office Suite in the deal...
- cjnkns, on 05/10/2008, -4/+14I think you're right - most people aren't ready for new technology simply because they are comfortable with what they have.
It is almost religious. - inactive, on 05/10/2008, -1/+10You guys really are nuts, and posts like this only make it more clear... I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish.
- Myztry, on 05/11/2008, -0/+9The 80's were a great time to live through. So much innovation. I got my first computer in 1982, but still consider my experience around 1988 with the Amiga (1985) as the Zenith.
Every since then, with Microsoft becoming dominant, I practically throw up in my mouth every time Microsoft uses the word Innovation...
They really need to stop using the word Innovation in place of imitation... It kind of sucks for Microsoft that the basis for everything was done before they could buy their way into OS's...
But it sucks so much more for the consumer under the regime, they have seen computing delayed by decades! As a kid, I was expecting great things. Now I'm just hoping my kids get to see that... - Moduliz0r, on 05/10/2008, -0/+9I signed in just to bury your comment...
- inactive, on 05/10/2008, -1/+12Well, if you think about it, it does dominate the server market and has a fairly large presence in the "supercomputer" arena. Sadly, it only has a 3% establishment in the home/business computer market. IIRC Vista was at 7% and WinXP was something like 83%. This was based on a distributed web survey (embed code on several webpages, webpage logs what OS user is using, phones home with IP and OS at the end of the survey)
- Kamujin, on 05/11/2008, -1/+11Bah, just fork a unix. Worked for Apple.
- Chris4, on 05/11/2008, -5/+16Yeah. A new interface which needs high specs so everyone buys a new computer. Bundle in a load of crap. Change the security. Viola, Vista.
- 16777216, on 05/10/2008, -2/+12True, but Linux is "good enough" to game on if you tweak it right.
- KiraDnote, on 05/11/2008, -3/+12More anti-trust activity by Microsoft. I hope the EU and the Feds crack on them again.
- GtCo21, on 05/10/2008, -3/+12It is not free, Microsoft's attempts will be futile.
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