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- kd420, on 01/23/2009, -16/+101Oh course MS will try everything to smother Linux, they are afraid. Don't forget the "Halloween Documents" that explicitly documented their fears and plans to defeat Linux: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Halloween_d ...
- Bicep, on 01/23/2009, -75/+159(in response to a comment by RedTroll): Amazing that people try to argue on the side of a legally adjudicated monopolist. Consider the fact that MSFT reported $16 BILLION dollars in Revenue last quarter... Don't try to make the problem sound so infinitely more simple than it really is. Don't be mistaken: there are 16 BILLION reasons for every living soul at the said company to do everything in their power to try to squash GNU/Linux and ALL competition.
They didn't stop me though... I voted with my own Dollars on two computers that came PRELOADED with GNU/Linux.... See here:
http://www.humans-enabled.com/2008/11/dell-inspiro ...
http://www.humans-enabled.com/2007/11/200-gos-gnul ...
And yet, despite all $16 Billion worth of efforts, good is still shining through the evil - like GNU/Linux Netbooks in 2008. Spread the Freedom!!
Stop the TAX already!!! Don't be fooled by those who are glad to take away your choice and have you pay them for it!
FREE YOURSELF!!!
Enable humans with technology!!!
GO GNU/Linux!!! - Aleman360, on 01/23/2009, -28/+107You're not helping the cause by coming off like a fundie spam email nut job.
- Aleman360, on 01/23/2009, -44/+97Wow, a company trying to protect its business.
- krellor, on 01/23/2009, -23/+67Oh noes, a company puts together teams to lobby their product and try and convince retailers to sell it instead of competitions product. Seriously, everyone does that. Even beer makers send reps to bars to convince them to sell their beer, or not sell X competitors beer. That is big business. Not a Microsoft thing.
Seriously, I'm tired of software proponents acting like crazy religions nut jobs and getting on their soap box and trying to proselytize anyone anytime Microsoft or Linux are mentioned. Lay off the crazy and use your tool of choice. - danielgary, on 01/23/2009, -9/+50Breaking News: Linux "Taskforce" Lobbied Entire World to drop Microsoft!
- theaceoffire, on 01/23/2009, -1/+42They made an offer Wal-Mart couldn't refuse.
- gl77, on 01/23/2009, -6/+45yea im going to buy one of those dell desktops this spring that comes preloaded with ubuntu. im changing over from XP. my hope is that once i make the switch, i can drop out of school and blame it all on Dell and Linux.
- wellstd1, on 01/23/2009, -20/+51Microsoft is a business. No matter how much money they make they will always want more. That's business. Now is no time to play friendly.
- greenx, on 01/23/2009, -22/+52This sucks big time. Freedom of choice has gone down the tubes. If I beat some one over the head with a stick I would be charged for assault. No charges have been laid I guess.
- theaceoffire, on 01/23/2009, -0/+26It was a dirt cheap (like $200) computer that could browse the internet, do some word stuff, check email, watch youtube, etc.
For a good number of people, it was all they needed in a computer, and it ran fast as well with no viruses.
Wal-Mart sold out. - Phocion55, on 01/23/2009, -6/+31And this is why I have no sympathy for MS when they complain about Vista's false negative consumer perception.
They've notorious for competitor FUD campaigns ("Get the Facts", anyone?).
Taste of their own medicine I suppose. - ahhell, on 01/23/2009, -26/+50Dude, your douche is showing.
- neeyo, on 01/23/2009, -11/+35This happens all the time. I don't even want to guess how many "teams" Coca-Cola has to convert restaurants that serve Pepsi to jump ship. Walmart also has a choice here ... free market forces at work.
- RoboDonut, on 01/23/2009, -4/+27Lots of ***** drive cars.
Does that mean I shouldn't drive a car? - inactive, on 01/23/2009, -2/+25Just because it's in their business interests doesn't mean we have to put up with it. They should be called on every last one of their unethical business practices and punished for it by consumers. If we don't make them win on a level playing field, we're letting them ***** us in the ass.
On top of which, Microsoft is already a convicted monopolist, and there are unreasonable barriers to entry of the market they currently dominate. Most other businesses aren't in that category. - brunovecchi, on 01/23/2009, -1/+23Really, it's only your loss.
- pudds, on 01/23/2009, -9/+31Of course they did. You think this doesn't happen in every market? Every corporation fights for market supremacy. Coke makes exclusive deals to keep Pepsi out. Nike makes exclusive deals to keep Reebok out. Etc etc etc.
It's marketing at work. The fact that it's Microsoft at work doesn't make it any different. - Phocion55, on 01/23/2009, -0/+19And this is why I just laugh when people complain that Vista's biggest problem is false consumer perception.
MS can lobby against and launch FUD campaigns for competitor products, but all of a sudden it's a crime when the tables are turned on them. - Rikkochet, on 01/23/2009, -1/+19Professional services and support. Big, big price tags in the enterprise, but they're worth it.
- theaceoffire, on 01/23/2009, -2/+19"People buying a very cheap computer only to find out that Word or games don't work on it and probably taking it back."
Saw that happen to people buying/receiving XP, Vista, and Macs. Old software wouldn't run, or they would have technical issues with some hardware, or (in one case) would buy a *console* video game and complain that the computer couldn't run it.
Stupid people are everywhere, but I don't see why that means we should reduce choices. - bob_the_alien, on 01/23/2009, -5/+21Well, I'm a Linux user, actually as of a few weeks ago, all my computers went linux, and I've dropped windows completely now, however. One of my best friends is a store manager of a walmart, and we discussed linux at his store.
He told me, that they tried to sell linux, and they did get the cheap price point. However, the problem didn't come in the selling, the problem came afterwards. Most ppl that bought them, started bringing them back, because they couldn't get their software to work on them. He told me he had about 2 out of every 3 linux pc's brought back because of this. And that he quit ordering any linux based pcs after this, at least for his store. He also said, that other store managers in his district had the same problems.
I'm not saying Microsoft didn't have this taskforce, but after what he told me, I kinda doubt that they really influences Wal-marts buying decision. - DontTreadOnMike, on 01/23/2009, -8/+24What about the freedom to sell and not sell whatever I damn well please in my own store?
- frygar, on 01/23/2009, -0/+16After the Mojave Experiment, I swore off Vista permanently. MS is shifting the blame for their crappy marketing onto the consumer; that's just *****.
- gnimsh, on 01/23/2009, -7/+22Running scared.
- matthekc, on 01/23/2009, -9/+24While I'm not sure Linux and the Wal-Mart crowd are ready for each other I think it's wrong for Microsoft to influence that choice...
Maybe with Obama's administration we can get some real anti-trust action leveled at Microsoft. - Myztry, on 01/23/2009, -2/+17The practice of sending bully boys around to eliminate the competition has been around for a long time.
The Mafia was a mainstream pioneer and other powerful entities like large Corporations took it up.
There's a reason why there are laws surrounding these practices. They have their basis in organized crime. - NJank, on 01/23/2009, -6/+21are you a declared monopoly? are your particular 'lobbying efforts' illegal as a result? if so, you should get smacked for it. if not, game on.
- aduric, on 01/23/2009, -11/+24I think it was more of a case of non tech-savvy people buying a very cheap computer only to find out that Word or games don't work on it and probably taking it back. This is Wal-Mart after all.
- CaptOblivious, on 01/23/2009, -6/+18So krellor,
Exactly what is your stand on COMPANIES "acting like crazy religions nut jobs and getting on their soap box and trying to proselytize anyone anytime"
It seems like It's OK for Microsoft but not the competition? - norman619, on 01/23/2009, -1/+13Linux prifit is in the business sector not the private. The exact same thing as with Windows and other MS software. MS makes the vast majority its money from busnesses not the home user.
- roddack, on 01/23/2009, -2/+13size matters not if your ally is the force
- jamesmcm, on 01/23/2009, -0/+10I hope that was sarcastic.
- Subiklim, on 01/23/2009, -11/+21Wait. I would try to lobby Walmart to drop my competitor's product too! Why the hell wouldn't I?
- fugazied, on 01/23/2009, -0/+9MS knows from experience that 'free' as in free beer products can kill competitors pretty quickly, so they have to use FUD. (See Internet explorer dominating Netscape a few years back). In this case they paid SCO to perform the FUD. So much for companies not being evil.
- mytruckhasdents, on 01/23/2009, -1/+10Ubuntu
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Dunkin Donuts
FiOS
Independent - zemoxian, on 01/23/2009, -2/+11There's a difference between "competition" and "illegal activities." Undermining your competition's sales with great products and customer service is competion. Blackmail, retaliation, trumped up lawsuits, and other fair trade violations are not.
- MSP1, on 01/23/2009, -0/+9I knew some moron was bound to trot out this universal excuse for all antisocial acts. "Its Business!".
So people in banks behaved like scum and caused the current financial crisis. So what? It was business! - Claverhouse, on 01/23/2009, -1/+10Some linux people boycott Novell products because as a major contributor to linux the company made a deal with Microsoft a few years ago, which included a mutual agreement not to sue each other on IP issues or each other's users; and this is regarded as a betrayal of pure linux principle. In the long run the deal may injure MS more than linux --- especially since it recognised linux as a rival --- but pure principle chaps don't concern themselves with the long run and nor should they.
- Rikkochet, on 01/23/2009, -3/+12They're buying what you could call a Linux appliance - rather than have to set up Linux themselves on hardware they have laying around (let's be honest - to configure ANY Linux is not a cake walk), they get a preinstalled package that already does what they want it to.
But they're idiots? Climb off your nerd soap box and take a look around. - FlareHeart, on 01/23/2009, -0/+9Are you talking material or everything? If you are referring to literally everything, then I condemn you, sir, to a life without the love of another, family, friends, and anything that could possibly bring you _true_ happiness.
Last time I checked, a friend, or the love of your spouse/significant other, or your parents, were all free things that life gives us to make us happy. So why can't other things be free too? Linux is free and makes my computing a very happy experience.
Be more open-minded and life will reward you. - inc595, on 01/23/2009, -3/+11These are the tactics the EU should focus on with it's dislike for Microsoft not some crap about IE coming with Windows.
- questro, on 01/23/2009, -4/+12Because Novell entered into an agreement with Microsoft that I and many in the GNU/Linux community find abhorrent. It is possible that Novell could become the next SCO. Personally, I dropped SuSE and OpenSUSE as a result of Novell's actions and I've been a completely happy Ubuntu user since. And for the record, I spent many years early in my career being a complete Novell NetWare advocate.
- sirhomer, on 01/24/2009, -0/+8norman619,
Accusing someone of being biased is like accusing someone of being human. Anyway I find it rich that you would accuse people of being "fanboy" when you seem to spend a large amount of effort attacking Linux and open source software. Actually you recently spent some time attacking Apple too. Hmm, I wonder what "side" you are on. </sarcasm> - winterus, on 01/23/2009, -8/+16Wow didn't know Microsoft forced Wal-Mart to abandon Linux... or maybe you just posted an incredibly ***** metaphor, dunno which
- jamesmcm, on 01/23/2009, -2/+10Eh? I use a Mac and GNU/Linux as both are fully POSIX-compatible, secure and reliable.
- ColBuendia71, on 01/23/2009, -1/+9Read the article: "Microsoft also writes: 'We understand that there has not been a customer satisfaction issue. Walmart sets fairly strict standards for customer return rates and service calls.'"
- BradHAWK, on 01/24/2009, -0/+7There are a lot of Windows asshats too, so I guess you should give up computers altogether.
- Rhydeble, on 01/23/2009, -0/+7So you're saying vista didn't suck but 99% of people just suck?
And its not really a main market OS if its intended only to be able to be used by you so called "fast people" that are too retarded to understand that you need to open cans and keep your house clean - fugazied, on 01/23/2009, -0/+7The LAMP stack has made some great strides? You talk like Linux is the up and comer in the online world. LAMP stacks are still the most common on the web, the majority of high traffic sites run on LAMP stacks. Youtube, Digg, Wikipedia etc.
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