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- TheAttacks, on 10/12/2007, -12/+117Not every Linux user holds weekly anti-M$ parties, pisses on the microsoft building, and burns copies of Windows.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -11/+50It will fly with Linux users, but not with Linux Fanboys.
- tempusrob, on 10/12/2007, -2/+36"I'm not sure about ME"
ME would BSoD if you moved your mouse the wrong way. = - becominglumberg, on 10/12/2007, -3/+35Moreover, the most commonly cited reason for not switching to Linux in the corporate world is lack of Outlook. Not an Outlook like clone (Evo), just Outlook.
CEOs want what they know, but don't really care how it gets to them. That said, I would be surprised if this turns out true, but think it would be awesome if it did. - akiraeternal, on 10/12/2007, -1/+25The only time I received the blue screen if death was when I had a stick of faulty RAM.
- atmclipse, on 10/12/2007, -6/+26Everyone talks about the "blue screen of death", but I have to say I have never encountered one. Not that I'm defending Windows or anything, I am now running OS X and Ubuntu, but just saying.
- elduder, on 10/12/2007, -9/+28From this Windows Help Desk Analyst and lifetime Windows user who just switched his home machine completely over to Ubuntu come three words:
You are wrong. - danielwsmithee, on 10/12/2007, -5/+23I would love to see Microsoft just work on what they do best, Office. It is actually a very good product. Word is not perfect but it is good, Excel is excellent, and outlook well that is the standard already.
Oh I wish the DOJ would have broke MS into separate Businesses, OS, Office, Media/Other. - xutopia, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Graphics/Movie relies on Macs?? Where have you been in the last 10 years? Need help to lift that rock off of you? Do a search for Dreamworks and Linux on google. You'll understand that Linux is now one of the most popular render farm OS.
The world is changing. Look around you. - Ricapar, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15If this is done *right*, and comes with all the important stuff (Outlook, Access) and the rest of the suite (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, etc), this might actually boost Linux even more in the workplace.
There are several places I know of that are holding onto Windows only because of Office.
I, for one, really hope that they get this done right. - scott1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13use to happen to my computer with 95 and 98 but never with Xp. I'm not sure about ME
- babbling, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14jgtg32a:
WoW works perfectly in WINE. - LaughingMan11, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12"They did it once with Apple, they will do it again with Linux," Cohen said
Technically, Microsoft didn't port Office to Apple's Mac platform. The first two versions of the Office suite existed on the Mac first before they were ever released as Office for Windows... hell, Microsoft Excel 1.0 was written for the Mac first back in 1985 before a Windows version showed up 2 years later.
Microsoft Office and the Mac have had a long and sordid history... and it is surprising to a lot of people who think that the Mac is somehow an inferior or 2nd class platform to hear that a lot of Office debuted on the Mac first. - smith, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13"Linux just has no real future, no matter how hard Linux tries."
Linux is competitive as a server Operating System. Desktop variants of Linux are creeping into the homes of tech-saavy people who are willing to try something new. Saying that Linux has no real future because Linux does not hold a great market share as a desktop OS is just wrong. The Open Source "cencept" is new to a lot of people who, because of corporations, believe that the more you pay for a product the better the product is... even if you only use 10% of the product you paid $300.00 for (i.e. MS Office). - eplawless, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10So Microsoft is going to release the only application whose nonexistence is keeping users from flocking away from its OS. Suuure.
- richwalkup, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11@mattmattb
Thunderbird and Sunbird have nowhere near the functionality that resides within Outlook. The primary reason for this is that Outlook, when coupled with Exchange and Active Directory, is an all in one solution right out of the box. While everyone focuses on so much on the client and office suites, they fail to realize that until we have a real, viable open source replacement for Exchange and Domino, corporate environments will not be moving in droves to the open source community. I would love to see a real competitor emerge within the open source community because I think it would turn the microsoft world on it's ear and force real performance and stability gains for them to maintain market dominance, but as of today I don't see anything promising on that horizon. - sinfony, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11"If this is done *right*, and comes with all the important stuff (Outlook, Access) and the rest of the suite (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, etc), this might actually boost Linux even more in the workplace.
There are several places I know of that are holding onto Windows only because of Office."
Why, then, would MS ever produce a version of Office for Linux? Can you imagine somebody at MS saying in a meeting, "I've got a great business plan. We'll produce a version of Office for Linux so that businesses won't be tied to Windows, which is our bread and butter money-making juggernaut." Brilliant plan. - chadu, on 10/12/2007, -6/+15This is quite possibly the most absurd thing I have ever read on Digg.
- QACJared, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10it would make a funny Screen saver
- gmillerd, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12The (graphics|movie|office|finance|family) industry relies on money and doesn't want to ***** around. They could give a ***** what OS they use by and large. Linux needs to keep lowering the TCO and drastically reduce the ***** around to get its desktop product working and it will do great.
Like the LinuxWorld panelist said the other day, people expect their devices to work with their computer, no ipod on the desktop linux is a non-starter. - MaHaGoN, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13Wait, we don't have anti-M$ parties? Then where have I been going every Tuesday... oh god...
MaHaGoN - LightsOut06, on 10/12/2007, -35/+43not that this would happen but I would definently welcome it. Open Office is crap.
- blixtra, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Actually, I'm just interested in having open/standard formats. Then it doesn't matter what software you use.
- GMorgan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Actually they make as much if not more from Office than they do from Windows. Hence why theres a Mac version.
- Jacob, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8from http://linuxmovies.org/studios.html do research before you make stupid comments
Studios Using Linux
* Digital Domain
* Disney
* Double Negative
* DreamWorks Animation
* Flash Film Works
* Hammerhead
* Industrial Light & Magic
* Moving Picture Company
* Pixar
* Rhythm & Hues
* Sony Pictures
* Tippett
* Weta Digital - devoinregress, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Not going to make me switch from Open Office but it would be a huge step towards making Linux more acceptable to businesses.
- richwalkup, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8@QACJared
It actually does make a very nice screensaver.
http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/BlueScreen.html
Now that MS owns them, I wonder how long that download will continue to exist? - devoinregress, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I even know some not so tech savvy folks who use it on their desktops.
- tonyspencer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Word existed for MS-DOS first, but it appeared on the Mac before it did for Windows. Excel was Mac first. PowerPoint was a Mac only program acquired from Forethought Inc in 1987.
Office 1.0 and 2.0 were Mac only. Office 3.0 was the first Windows version.
Other Mac firsts:
Nearly all Adobe software: Photoshop, Illustrator, Persuasion, Premiere.
Adobe acquired software from Altsys/Aldus/Macromedia: FreeHand, PageMaker, Fontographer, Director, After Effects.
QuarkXpress of course.
FileMaker.
Framemaker was originally on Sun Unix, but was ported to Mac before Windows.
Basically pretty much all desktop publishing, photo retouching, drawing, illustration, CD-ROM authoring and video editing software started life on the Mac, at least professional software. - thepxc, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9@jgtg32a
Which version of OOo were you using? Although OO is still somewhat behind M$Office, for the average user, OOo 2.x is more than enough. - GMorgan, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11I'll gladly buy MSO if OpenXML comes up to scratch as a proper open standard.
I have nothing against MS. They make a good office suite, .Net is quite good and their games department is solid.
The only thing holding them back in my eyes is their determination to cripple these good products by making them Windows only. If that changes then I will be as happy to work with MS products as I am to work with Sun and IBM.
Like Torvalds said Microsoft aren't evil they just make a crappy OS. - Ricapar, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I'm no fan of Microsoft, but completely denying the fact that people use their software is silly.
People, as well as many companies -do- make heavy use of Access. Call it sad, stupid, inefficient, whatever. I've seen many well-developed implementations of Access, and to convert to another type of database would require a lot of work and time, as well as funds. - danielwsmithee, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9I got it in XP all the time. It was caused by bad hardware. XP really isn't that bad, it is just not as good as OS X, or Linux for that matter. I do wish they had more hardware verification features to verify that your system is stable, and find hardware problems. Kind of like Apple's Hardware test CDs, or SmartGart that comes with ATI video cards.
It would help with the millions of configurations they must support. - TheZorch, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I really seriously doubt that this will happen. Open Office is maturing very rapidly. Yes, it has problems but compare OO to what it was a year ago and you will see major improvements. MS Office is big, a CPU and memory hog, and excessively expensive. OpenOffice 2.0 is available in a portable version you can load up in a USB flash drive. You can't do that with Office. MS Office is too heavily integrated with IE and the Windows OS. This is also another reason why Office would never work on Linux outside of WINE, assuming WINE has all of the appropriate binaries that Office requires which I doubt. No, this will never happen.
- adolfojp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"Why, then, would MS ever produce a version of Office for Linux?"
Office is one of MS biggest moneymakers.
Perhaps they are preparing for a day when Linux dominates the business desktop.
Or maybe they want to release a crippled version of Office that Linux users will use while knowing that Windows has a much more better version. Seducing Linux users to switch to Windows through a crippled Office might be a strategy. - willcode4beer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I predicted this some time ago. I figured that once we reached the point where Linux has the same desktop penetration as Macs they'd start working on it. Microsoft is a software company before an OS company, so, they would obviously have to follow the market.
However, nowadays, I think they may hold out quite a bit longer. There are too many organizations who say office is the ONLY thing keeping them from switching. Losing the desktop would really hurt their sales of application platforms used in many businesses. Think of the loss in sales of VB dev tools and apps connected to MS SQL servers, Exchange boxes, IIS boxes.
Even though a lot of that stuff is of rather dubious quality, its a big part of their bread and butter. - Aggaman, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Most people who use Windows do so because it is the standard, not because of any love for it. Domestic mac users tend to be the opposite.
Ubuntu is extremely impressive. It's as good as Windows for most things, and better in many respects. The fact that it's cheaper will ensure its success in the long run. If there was no OS virtual monopoly, lots of businesses would have switched to open source software a long time ago. Network monopolies create a larger barrier to entry. It remains to be seen whether OSS can surmount that, but the signs look good. - neko, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Hah! And MS Office ~isn't~ a bloated memory hog? They're both Office suites! They both enjoy sucking up memory!
At least OOo manages to fit everything you need in a ~75M download. - Nodren, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4what i find funny, is microsoft is doing this in the opposite position.... IE is so popular cause it comes with windows, people install windows and there it is!
open office is popular among linux crowds, because it simply comes with linux, you install, and there it is!
we know theres no possible way for any distrobution to come default with non open source licensed software(GPL requires everything you use in your GPL software must also be under GPL). so microsoft will be stuck with encouraging people to try and purchase their software over what is already installed and free!
all in all, i have to hand it to microsoft, this is a huge compliment to linux in general for them to see this as any sort of oppertunity to make money. - rickbauls, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Look up CinePaint. Linux was used to make the Scooby Doo movies, alongside many other movies that used Maya on linux.
- pauljaroszewski, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Maybe Im just too drunk, but I can't tell the difference between MS Office and Open Office...or maybe it's because I don't give a *****.
- EasY_TargeT, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6I do love the office 2007 beta.
- freebit50, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Hell has frozen over.
- totorototoro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4They may just support it the same way they've supported the Mac version in the last several years: providing "almost" the same feature set...with enough question marks ( like the next Office for OS X missing Visual Basic) to keep major corporations wary of switching, but getting enough individual/home users to make it a profitable enough venture.
- kens8, on 10/12/2007, -31/+35This is laughable! Not that MS would try it, but that it would fly with Linux users.
- gitarrenspieler, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Great news for Linux, contrary to what some fanboys might believe. Microsoft Office is probably the highest quality set of programs Microsoft has ever produced. If/when MS Office is released for Linux, it will encourage more people to switch to Linux, and make switching less painful for Linux newbies.
- GMorgan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Just because it gets ported doesn't mean you have to use it, support from MS is still support.
- saleens281, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Why is this news? Someone with absolutely no factual information has decided MS is going to have to release Office for linux to fight OO.org. This isn't news at all. Give me some facts/sources or stop wasting front page space.
I heard Jim Bob down the road saying Sun would have to start using ITANIC chips because the T1 chip just doesn't cut it price/performance wise; that doesn't mean it's news, or that it's going to happen. - mikeroySoft, on 10/19/2009, -5/+8@ gxcdesign
Linux has no real future?
Them's fightin words... :)
If you can't see beyond your nose, you're doomed to stand still and pick it.
*edit... wtf, the reply system is broken! - jer2eydevil88, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Why are you sick of document files that take up a mere 450kb? Is your 80gb (minimum) drive not able to still store thousands of those without using up even a third of the disk space?
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