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- scy1192, on 10/12/2008, -1/+55Why is this in the Linux/Unix section?
- Spr0k3t, on 10/11/2008, -8/+55The microsoft version of open source: "Here's our code, now improve upon it, just don't let any other operating system use it or they shall face our veiled threats of the patent monster."
- inactive, on 10/12/2008, -1/+33The .Net Frmaework is NOT open source, not even "kind of", the source code is available to view when debugging in the IDE.
You can not download/fork it/rename it etc. Just because the source is viewable does not make it open source. FFS
Microsoft WIX was however the first proper open source project released by Microsoft.
http://port25.technet.com/archive/2006/04/25/WIX_3 ... - rieuwa, on 10/12/2008, -8/+36Actually... if people spent time looking around Microsoft's CodePlex, they would find a great variety of Open Source projects....
And in terms of contribution and collaboration with the OS community you might be surprised the things you see/hear on MS Campus... - inactive, on 10/12/2008, -4/+28Yeah $ is close to worthless now.
Should go with Micro€oft. - werries, on 10/12/2008, -0/+23We have a whole damn microsoft section, put it there.
- betrayed, on 10/12/2008, -4/+24that $ is really getting old
really. - loconet, on 10/12/2008, -2/+21.NET Open Source? Really? In what respect?
- 4321234, on 10/12/2008, -7/+23Microsoft. Microsoft. They always make some little gesture to appear less evil just before they're ready to slaughter and eat a fresh crop of babies.
- kettlechips, on 10/11/2008, -2/+16The license this was released did not have the Windows-only clause.
- Filter, on 10/11/2008, -5/+19They have other open source projects. They have contributed some to the open source community. I would like to see them contribute more to the open source community but I doubt it will ever happen.
- santasing, on 10/12/2008, -8/+19Exactly, MS is trying to dilute the Open Source brand with its "shared source" crap.
- tracker1, on 10/12/2008, -0/+10They've released quite a few projects under MS-PL licensing, which is about as good as BDS + Mutually assured destruction clause. Most of the ones I have seen relate to various .Net addons/extensions though... it is worth looking at.
- jbeams, on 10/12/2008, -4/+14Open Source is not Free Software. In addition, it's absurd to describe a set of libraries built for accessing closed/proprietary services as a step forward.
- hugolp, on 10/12/2008, -1/+10How is this anti-Microsoft?
- Ev3nt372, on 10/12/2008, -8/+16In comparison to Apple who patented multi-touch gestures so their competition cant use a multi-touch interface that is intuitive to control.
- colincornaby, on 10/12/2008, -0/+7The article is incorrect. Touchless is not multitouch software (maybe the name should have been a hint to the author?) It's software that reads input from a camera, much like EyeToy.
- inactive, on 10/12/2008, -2/+9Really? Got any links to any of them.
Microsoft publishes its open source code (or its bastardized version of OSS) in codeplex, not google's code site.
Just because chrome compiles for windows and uses WTL doesn't mean it's microsoft's code (even the illegally reverse engineered code in chrome. google that.). - Z_Man, on 10/12/2008, -1/+7This isn't the first time.
- kangy3213, on 10/12/2008, -7/+13yeah, ***** potatoes!
oh wait - LeviTheSmith, on 10/12/2008, -2/+8http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=Microsofts ...
First result on Google. - venom8599, on 10/12/2008, -3/+9Isn't GPL compatible, because of: 3. (B) If you bring a patent claim against any contributor over patents that you claim are infringed by the software, your patent license from such contributor to the software ends automatically.
Still it's nice to see some opening up. - venom8599, on 10/12/2008, -0/+6Sorry, my mistake. It isn't incompatible with every version of the GPL. It's incompatible with GPLv2, and compatible with GPLv3.
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/license-list.html#So ... - HonoredMule, on 10/12/2008, -0/+6Open Spec != Open Source
Open Standard (excluding OOXML) > Open Source > Open Spec - inactive, on 10/12/2008, -2/+7@violentvinyl
When you agree to the Windows EULA that prohibits reverse engineering, then breaking that EULA is illegal.
That's when. - loconet, on 10/13/2008, -0/+5As far as the OSI definition of Open source is concern, "Open Source" means more than just the source code being available. That version of the CLI (Rotor) was equivalent to having the source code under a glass display with a big "do not touch, do not copy - just look sign". It was only useful for non-commercial use (eg. academia). There used to be ways to access the Windows source code under similar arrangements, yet you don't see people calling it Open Source.
So yes, .NET Open Source? Really? - daeken, on 10/12/2008, -1/+6They've been contributing a /lot/ lately. The DLR, IronPython, IronRuby, WiX, and others have been released under OSI-approved licenses. Now if they'd release F# and other such projects under non-tainting licenses...
- andycr512, on 10/12/2008, -0/+5"breaking that EULA is illegal.
That's when."
Debatable. To my knowledge EULA's haven't been tested in court, and the law contradicts the Microsoft EULA in many ways. - MMaster23, on 10/12/2008, -0/+4Incorrect .. Microsoft has been pumping out open-source projects for years now.
Go ahead .. digg me down.. won't change the truth tough. - ArthurSucks, on 10/12/2008, -0/+4Wasn't there an open source MSI instillation builder that Microsoft released? I'm sure Microsoft will embrace the open source model once they find out how profitable it can be.
- inactive, on 10/12/2008, -0/+4So this could be ported to linux/unix then?
- SitPoMk, on 10/12/2008, -1/+5Yea you're right when it comes to gaming, Microsoft comes out on top. I might be dugg down by Nintendo fans but we've got to face we don't live in a Mario world anymore.
Along with Windows and programming solutions like Visual Studio and such, Office is up there with greatest achievements of Microsoft but it's been around for a while. While it is good that it is available for mac, I wouldn't go as far as calling it an innovation. - ultrafez, on 10/12/2008, -0/+4Go into your profile, then you can undigg the story under the "dugg stories" section. Then you can bury it.
- iofthestorm, on 10/12/2008, -4/+8Office 2007/2008 for Mac? That's pretty innovative. And actually, I'd say Microsoft's quality has gone up in recent years, despite what people say about Vista. The only real problem with Vista is that it uses more resources than XP, but of course XP used more than 98 which used more than 95 etc... And I think they're doing pretty well with the 360, even though I wouldn't buy one simply because I prefer PC gaming.
- loconet, on 10/12/2008, -0/+4@alanr19
TedTschopp is correct. WTL is under Ms-PL (OSI approved). WTL is used in Chrome* and yes, WTL was written by MS. So yes, There is MS code in Chrome (Chromium to be precise) that is "Open Source".
* http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/trunk/src/ch ... - Phoenixheart, on 10/11/2008, -14/+17Incorrect title. Microsoft has gone open source at least once with its .NET framework. Well, kind of.
- andregriffin, on 10/12/2008, -5/+8Ohh! I see, you replaced the "s" with a dollar sign to imply that they are rich and greedy. Wow, that is just so fresh. So original. Did you come up with that?
It's much more original than reusing material you see on TV, say, Family Guy for instance. - melonhedd, on 10/12/2008, -3/+6Open source is not a brand.
- daeken, on 10/12/2008, -2/+5Except that they're releasing most of their open source code under MSPL, which is OSI-approved. The DLR, IronPython, etc are released under this language.
- SitPoMk, on 10/12/2008, -6/+9What bugs me is it seems that Microsoft doesn't innovate anymore. It sees what is the new trend and comes up for its own forgettable name for it. Think of Silverlight, Live Search and MSN Ads, Zune, Expression Studio ... now this (I'm sure i'm missing some). All of these concepts were introduced by someone else.
I'm not trying to bash Microsoft here as they have most likely done more for me than any other company. I am just a little disappointed at how the company who created Windows, arguably one of the most important creations of our time, has gone down such a low level of playing catchup with the trends rather than leading the industry with innovation. - daeken, on 10/12/2008, -0/+3Yes, WiX. The DLR and many other pieces of software have also been released under OSI-approved licenses.
- sirhomer, on 10/12/2008, -0/+2Sure, on the Mono platform. I am sure someone will be watching this carefully to see if it is worth porting over to Linux. But keep in mind there are already libraries (OpenCV for example) available on Linux that can do the exact same thing but also can do a lot more. OpenCV is most commonly used for this type of thing especially in academia. So the usefulness of the library may not be evident (yet).
- violentvinyl, on 10/13/2008, -1/+3@ alanr19
Fair use trumps EULA's in the US. Just because I write something down on paper and make you agree to it, it doesn't make it legally binding. That's the cornerstone of our legal system. - daeken, on 10/12/2008, -3/+5Yes, because IronPython, IronRuby, the DLR, WiX, etc aren't released under OSI-approved licenses and Microsoft doesn't run an open-source project hosting site. Oh, wait...
- santasing, on 10/13/2008, -0/+2Great, MS CodePlex. If you must know, MS's definition of Open Source is "Shared source".
Sometime, you do have to do a little research. - tracker1, on 10/12/2008, -1/+3How is the mutually assured destruction clause specifically incompatible with GPL? Without that clause, it's pretty similar to a BSD license.
- Nath2k8, on 10/12/2008, -1/+3To attract more attention?
- ZippyV, on 10/12/2008, -1/+3Judging by the title from the submitter.
- nixarn, on 10/12/2008, -4/+6this is just crap. It's not like microsoft has released something like this before. It's just a little tech demo by some student.
- JoelJ, on 10/12/2008, -0/+1Singularity - Open Source kernel made my MS.
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