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- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+18Pesky Pigeon ?
- geminitojanus, on 10/10/2007, -4/+14I recognize that your post was trying to be informative and not oppressive, but a lot of other people aren't going to think that. Considering this is a website based on the West and that we hate censorship and freedom of speech and religion and beliefs are values we hold dearest, do you think you could kindly shut the ***** up?
- badassninja, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9While there may be other Mobile OS's, I would use this in a heart beat. I really think Linux needs a poster child, and ubuntu makes a pretty good one. Once Ubuntu brakes MS's hold on the OS world then over all the world will be willing to try other flavors of Linux.
- Langford, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Yes, but that isn't nearly as fun as saying "Pedestrians poking punctuation into Pidgin on palm-pcs powered by Pesky Pigeon".
- schestowitz, on 10/10/2007, -4/+9He talks about 2008, but have they got any deals? Intel is still just a speculation (some eve said G-Phone), but Maemo and Debian are still quite strong. Many other parties will squeeze Ubuntu (even Trolltech's partners), so as some reporters said, Ubuntu might be losing focus on the desktop here. The same goes for servers, some of which were already compromised a week ago.
Zimmerman, desktop /first/. If you do too much in too many places, you'll suffer from the mess that Microsoft has become (losing money everywhere except the two cash cows). - matrox212, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7You're saying that my asking a question is equal to censorship which, is in fact stupid. Starting a dialogue about a controversial issue is exactly what free speech is supposed to do. Not, as you say, tell people to "shut the ***** up" when you don't like what they're talking about. So kindly, before you tell someone to "shut the ***** up" in the future, please make sure you have an arguement that makes sense. It's your kind of dangerous assumptions are what threatens free speech. How do you know he never considered that being offensive before? How do you know that I'm not open to reconsidering my position after hearing his reasoning? If we did things your way, he would never know my position and I would never know his. Do you think that's what free speech is all about?
- hiikeeba, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6But that's how Americans now define Freedom of Speech--silencing those who disagree. Witness the "Flush Rush" movement or the shenanigans that go on when Ann Coulter goes to speak at a college. They must be silenced for the safety of AmeriKKKa.
- geminitojanus, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3"The same goes for servers, some of which were already compromised a week ago."
Blame the admins, not the OS (which went out of support ages ago). Try putting a Win98 box on the net today and seeing how long it would last, that's more-or-less what they did with those community-oriented servers.
Don't think that the mobile initiative is taking anything away from the desktop one. If anything, they're additive; you can use Maemo on the desktop, and it's going to be a part of GNOME soon enough. Ubuntu's just getting ahead of the game. - leexy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Ow goodie! The Asus eee is due in a few weeks. Can't wait to load Ubuntu on it.
- strabes, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Nice ridiculously generalized blanket stereotype.
- strabes, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Do you think you could stop being such an internet tough guy and calm down?
- cawpin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2two words - Win Nuke
- championchap, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Goobuntu Mobile for the Google Phone?
- Langford, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2If they called it that, it would be almost poetic to use it to run Pidgin.
- rulus, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Sure there have been enhancements to the usability, every single release. We don't need to actually reinvent the GUI every six months, that would make things more complicated, not easier. Besides, the theme isn't everything.. Theme's can be changed in a dramatically simple way, and it's Linux, everything can be changed to your likes and needs.
- schestowitz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1That's win95. win98 had the tcp/ip stack fixed, IIRC.
- MindTrigger, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I've got a Dell PDA just sitting there waiting for me to load linux on it. I have no use for it with windows, since I have a smartphone anyway. I looked around online, and there doesn't seem to be much going on in this area, at least not for my model PDA. (Dell 50v)
- Salviati, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Compiz Fusion: It's coming standard on the next release.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1They aren't doing too many things in too many places. Different teams work on different areas of ubuntu (as a whole). Besides, they can lose the mobile bandwagon, Linux in general can't.
- sirhomer, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1It's ok to offer constructive criticism, which you aren't. Instead of saying Ubuntu's UI sucks, explain why?
- theaceoffire, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1"Yeah, Compiz Fusion isn't a huge change in GUI"
O.O dude... >.> pass that over, I wanna smoke too. - tehkain, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1"The same goes for servers, some of which were already compromised a week ago."
yea thats what happens when your password and usename are the same on a box with SSH running. Has nothing to do with ubuntu and everything to do with bad admins. - sirhomer, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Mac hasn't changed fundamental things about their UI since 1984, and the dock in OS X is from NeXT.
- Meep3D, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2Compiz Fusion just a 3d compositor for the desktop, it doesn't actually do anything to improve the usability of the distro. Aero and Quartz also do nothing for usability, they just add eyecandy - it's a common Linux mistake to not know the difference.
Every release of OSX they improve usability, read the tiger/leopard whatever release notes, they are constantly polisihing the gui. and the current OSX is seriously different from mac classic. Windows XP brought a redesigned start bar which is actually much better than the simple program list, and Vista has added loads of little gui touches to make life easier.
Ubuntu is the same old basic Gnome desktop, and it pretty much hasn't changed for 3 years. It's not that it's terrible, it's just that it's not very good, and pretty much no visible effort has been spent improving it. And fanboys such as yourself deny that there is any room for improvement.
I would like to have an honest discussion somewhere about potential improvements to the GUI and new ways of doing things as I feel it could be constructive, but due to the mass of Ubuntu fanboys (who probably have never wrote a line of code in their life) refuse to accept it's anything but perfect - hence no discussion, no ideas, no improvements. Nobody is ever critical of Linux without dying in a large burst of flames. It's like the emperors new clothes all over again. - TheSolomon, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Wow, that's one annoying photo. Its one of the rare times I've used Firefox's Adblock to stop a non-ad image from displaying.
- Spr0k3t, on 10/10/2007, -5/+4I'm sorry to say, Ubuntu is not a good server distribution. Ubuntu Mobile is walking into a very saturated market of three top contendors and many flops. With the drive Ubuntu has on the desktop, it could very well strangle a foothold away from one of the top three.
- geminitojanus, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1Yeah, Compiz Fusion isn't a huge change in GUI. Neither is Mac OS X, that damned Mac Bar has been their since the 1980s, and that damned start bar's still there in Windows since '95 too!
*eyes-a-rollin* - jdhore1, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1your Win98-Ubuntu comparison is not a good one...Win98 is probably infinetly more secure than WinXP since it's running the old 9x kernel and stuff and no one codes viruses for it anymore and i doubt many crackers have viruses for it anymore.
- Meep3D, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1It could be good, but given the Linux community's focus on the 'back end' of software and the resulting lack of attention on the front end GUI (Ubuntu hasn't changed anything significant since Warty) I am not too hopeful. OTOH if they actually identify this as their weakness and work to address it, it could result in great things.
- ncc74656m, on 10/10/2007, -4/+2Sorry, still wrong... You see, as a Linux fan, and an independent technician, I know this as well as most people do.
People are inherently lazy. Even if people want to break away from paying M$, the issue is that people also do not want to move away from what they know, and to some, money, or the effort to avoid paying that money, such as cracked copies, is worth staying with that.
I've set up various distros of Linux, and it can be downright impossible to make the transition for some (read: LOTS). You'd never see a n00b who could set up Gentoo without help. Worse, making and keeping it running is even harder. Sure, sometimes Portage makes things easy, but sometimes it makes them harder.
When I was new to Linux and set up various distros, I attempted to uninstall some software I didn't want, and wound up uninstalling a library I needed, completely bricking my install. Worse, some of the Linux community would respond with "Well, what did you expect? It did warn you about it."
That kind of response is exactly what people are worried about. Have you ever uninstalled something in Windows? Has it ever said to you "This file is may no longer be needed, but in case it is, it will break something else" ? And when you remove it, you never have a problem... That's because M$ is overprotective of its' EUs, whereas most of Linux is all about "You break it, you bought it." It's this kind of transition that people will find difficult to accept.
Again, I love Linux. I do. But to say that it's bound to take over the market? Or even make Microsoft feel the pain? I just can't see it, not for at least 10 years.
But to the original point of your post, yes, if anyone has a chance, Ubuntu does. It's an easier install than Windows, and it's more intuitive. Now if people will just give it a chance, and be willing to accept a failure here and there. - DarkDx, on 10/10/2007, -3/+0gutsy has pidgin by default
- matrox212, on 10/10/2007, -14/+4I recognize that your icon is a Hindu Swastika and not a Nazi symbol but a lot of other people aren't going to know that. Considering this website is based in the West and that symbol is very close to a symbol of racism and hate, do you think it's a good choice?
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