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- schestowitz, on 04/24/2008, -10/+117Biggest new so far this year for FOSS? Digg it up, please. Sweaty Ballmer must already be packing up a suitcase to go down south. It's one to watch because Microsoft won't give up easily.
- oobuntu, on 04/24/2008, -4/+61If there numbers sound crazy, here's the Population breakdown in Brazil
0-14 years: 25.3% (male 24,554,254/female 23,613,027)
15-64 years: 68.4% (male 64,437,140/female 65,523,447)
65 years and over: 6.3% (male 4,880,562/female 7,002,217) (2007 est.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Brazi ... - inactive, on 04/24/2008, -13/+69Ubuntu 8 is genius. I know some of you will say "Linux in general is genius" and thats true, but Man Ubuntu, they just have it down cold now. I have never seen Linux be so easy to install (wubi runs right from the iso, no cd's to burn!), so flawlessly working right out of the box, and so smooth and easy to use after install. To watch the growth of this product over the next 2 years is going to be awe inspiring.
- flatfish, on 04/24/2008, -1/+54This is an absolutely *huge* win for Linux and the students of Brazil. Hopefully this becomes a model for Linux deployment on a massive scale that others can learn from. Dugg because it's wonderful News IMHO.
- DeviateSeptum, on 04/24/2008, -16/+54It would be good to have someone ask the US presidential candidates about open-source in the American schools. Too bad the media doesn't care about actual issues anymore.
- sagat, on 04/24/2008, -3/+40I'm going to a major school semminar tomorrow with a number of school technology leaders from the East Coast where I fully intent to pop the Linux question.
- moghua, on 04/24/2008, -3/+29Only 52 million? Obviously Linux is not ready for the desktop! :)
- 0L1VER, on 04/24/2008, -6/+31Wow - that's an enormous breakthrough! Thanks for posting.
- Dumbledorito, on 04/24/2008, -6/+31Somehow, given the gravity of other things going on in the world, "what OS do you favor" doesn't seem to rank all that high on the "real issues o-meter."
And voting for someone based on what allows a candidate to update his/her facebook account seems about as important, currently, as deciding your vote on if they would outfit our troops with the "blotchy" or "pixel" camouflage uniforms. - jadrian, on 04/24/2008, -2/+25Yes. Gnome is usually regarded as having a more simple interface (less options) and KDE a more powerful one.
However there is much more to it than that. Gnome is based on a Gtk+ and KDE on Qt. The latter is much easier to program in, and more powerful, safe and modular. That alone gives KDE a huge advantage! There are plenty of amazing KDE applications out there (Amarok for music, K3B to burn CD/DVDs, KPDF to view pdfs, KOffice is becoming an outstanding office suite, and I could go on and on). Looking at the Gnome field, there are very very few applications with such a high quality.
KDE has 2 main branches right now. KDE 3.5, this is a very stable one that came out already 2 years ago! And KDE 4.0, the very beginning of the new generation KDE, still not very stable but impressive tecnology. KDE 4.1 will be out in the Summer. You can see how far ahead KDE is when compared to Gnome when you realize that the latest Gnome version is not ahead of the 2 year old KDE 3.5 in any way, despite the fact that the KDE team has been focusing mainly of KDE 4 since then.
- inactive, on 04/24/2008, -2/+24Very much so.
I prefer it, and mainly because of the file dialogs. GTK File Dialogs drive me absolutely ***** insane. - LifesBlogger, on 04/24/2008, -3/+22Wow nice breakthrough, Linux is develping into something i would have never expected!
- Daniel591992, on 04/24/2008, -2/+21I plan on installing Ubuntu on my aunt's American Vista laptop so she can finally get an OS in her own language. Why does Microsoft force you to upgrade to Ultimate just to change the language? No thanks.
- nixfu, on 04/24/2008, -3/+22Funny..I work for a Fortune 50 company and don't use windows at all.
- inactive, on 04/24/2008, -2/+2152 Million people and 53,000 labs? That's pretty legit
- diatonic1, on 04/24/2008, -0/+18Yes.
- bowens44, on 04/24/2008, -0/+17I haven't used a sub par app since I ***** canned windows.
- node3, on 04/24/2008, -0/+17This might be true in general, but Brazil is uniquely immune to these sorts of tactics. They are a very progressive country and very proactive on open source-style issues, as well as alternative fuel, which is a separate issue, but shows they have the fortitude to take on powerful interests when it comes to the good of the people.
- santasing, on 04/24/2008, -1/+18@kretik
Yes it is because when a similar deal was made in Nigeria last year, MS paid them off to use Windows instead of Mandriva. Even though the Mandriva licenses had been bought and paid for.
http://www.neowin.net/news/main/07/11/04/mandrivas ...
So, yea, it would be interesting to see MS's response. - inactive, on 04/24/2008, -3/+19Not necessarily true. It depends on the field: More and more companies are using Linux for things other than hosting these days as Digg will tell you over time.
- zeebo, on 04/25/2008, -1/+17And there are still morons who quote total linux usage at under a million. Its as if they're living in some alternate dimension.
- DutchGuilder, on 04/24/2008, -2/+17Yeah, good idea, beause a candidate's opinion on open-source is my #1 concern ... right after Iraq, Iran, "terrorism", economy, outsourcing, immigration, currency devalution, national debt, trade imbalance, PACs, lobbiests, earmarks, oil prices, global warming, disenfranchisement, prohibition, health care, social security, middle East, first ammendment, fifth ammendment, supreme court, race relations, energy policy, NAFTA, China, North Korea, Cuba, privacy, ethics, monetary policy, patent reform, tort reform, Wall Street bailouts, and subsidies.
- FairDinkumMate, on 04/24/2008, -0/+15Engage brain before activating mouth!
If the entire country is educated & used to Linux, what do you think most companies in Brazil are going to roll out in future years? - acero47, on 04/24/2008, -1/+15Do you have any other accounts to use to agree with yourself?
- FairDinkumMate, on 04/24/2008, -0/+14Ever thought that 'your friend' may not be representative of all of Brazil?
Eu morar no Brasil e falar Portuguese com Brasileiros todo dia!/I live in Brazil & speak Portuguese with Brazilians every day!
3 Simple reasons why Brazil will adopt Linux VERY quickly -
1.With the education system now exposing students to Linux & not Windows, it will become the more comfortable system for the 'average' use in coming years. So when you have people now saying 'I don't like Linux because it's too different', Brazilians in 5 years will be saying EXACTLY the same thing about Windows!
2. Tax on all electronic goods in Brazil is ridiculously high. This means that most people have PC's that are 2-5 years behind current systems in the rest of the world(yes, even 'new' systems sold here are ridiculously underpowered!). Heavy OS's like Vista aren't designed for & don't perform well on these older machines when compared to Linux
3. Piracy is HUGE in Brazil. unfortunately this results in a lack of security for users systems(eg. can't use Windows update) & less motivation for Microsoft to develop 'Brazilian Portuguese' support as effectively as it could. Linux on the other hand doesn't have the piracy problem which eliminates the security issue. The support can also be developed by Brazilians for Brazilians which increases its relevance & depth. I'm not sure how much you know about Portuguese, but Brazilians hate getting things in 'Portuguese from Portugal' and Portuguese hate getting stuff in 'Brazilian Portuguese'. This confuses the issue even further for companies(not just Microsoft or software companies but ALL multinationals) that are run by & targeted at English speakers. - inactive, on 04/24/2008, -3/+16You do realize they are using it for desktop purposes, right?
- diatonic1, on 04/24/2008, -1/+13Who's to say that some of those 52 million aren't already Linux users?
- HoratioHellpop, on 04/24/2008, -0/+12Disclaimer: windows fanboi here... you couldn't get Ubuntu running in a *virtual machine* ... so therefore it's useless as a desktop OS?
Come again? - inactive, on 04/24/2008, -1/+12Wow, really?
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Really?
You do realize Linux and OSS can pretty much provide an all in one solution for almost everything? - afx1, on 04/24/2008, -0/+11dugg up for staying relevant
- cquilliam, on 04/24/2008, -0/+11A poor nation? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_ ... , Brazil is 8th in the world in GDP.
- TheZorch, on 04/24/2008, -1/+12I believe you 100%. Look at how thoroughly they derailed deployment of Mandriva based PCs in African schools that one time. The company is evil, anti-competitive, and needs to be put on a very tight leash with a spiked choker chain to keep it under control to prevent such things from happening in the future. I'm hoping that whoever becomes the next Prez in the US puts pressure on Microsoft again in the courts to start playing nice in the market or else.
- subgeniusd, on 04/24/2008, -1/+11WTF is that rambling drivel supposed to mean anyway?
If you aren't aware of the long history of MS anti-competitive activity then you need to visit the real world from time to time. - oblique63, on 04/24/2008, -1/+11your mom still sucks on the desktop...
- inactive, on 04/24/2008, -1/+11Friendly reminder: Do not feed the troll.
- afx1, on 04/24/2008, -0/+10i'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic
- Koppie, on 04/24/2008, -0/+10No such thing as too much rice & beans.
- alpha19, on 04/24/2008, -3/+13Do you even know what Linux is?
- neko, on 04/24/2008, -1/+11Qt is awesome. They've got practically everything but the kitchen sink in that library. The software we are developing at work is done in Qt - although I run it on my gnome desktop and we're using the Tango iconset (Never did like the default KDE icons..)
- specialK16, on 04/25/2008, -1/+11Seriously, if you need a non-stop, critical mission server, don't even think about using Windows.
- init100, on 04/24/2008, -1/+11"Once you've worked in the open source community and have some real world experience you usually mature and realize that the point isn't to displace Microsoft, rather the point is to create the worlds best software and experience."
Or as Linus Torvalds put it:
"Really, I'm not out to destroy Microsoft. That will just be a completely unintentional side effect." - jadrian, on 04/24/2008, -0/+9File dialog is the kind of window that shows up when you select "Save as" or "Open" in an application.
- inactive, on 04/25/2008, -0/+9If you use Linux from the beginning, Windows is a serious bitch to use and you'd rather stay at home. Same for if you use Linux for too long. I can't stand Windows now. (I can use it for small things but I will never code with it again!)
Also, do remember that Linux is not just a word processor. It can do more than you think. I'm not going to spend 30 minutes listing all of this crap because I've done it before and the bottom line is that Linux can do pretty much anything you need it to if you don't work in a very specialized field. - geneticlone, on 04/24/2008, -3/+12Correction, 52 Million "Potential" new users.
- nixfu, on 04/24/2008, -6/+15I installed Microsoft Windows yesterday on a laptop...sound and network don't work right, so I'm sure I'll be chasing down a few issues.
- santasing, on 04/24/2008, -0/+9SO, you are saying its ok for MS to be paying bribes to customers to get them to use their product. Much as I hate MS, I don't think you will ever get a job in their marketing dept. Maybe you will, who knows.
So, yea, MS cannot compete on its merits, just on marketing, FUD and good old bags of greenbacks. - eavesdrop, on 04/24/2008, -2/+11Other than OS X, I'm a Slackware & Red Hat/Fedora user....been using Slackware since 8.0 and RH since 7.3 .....but Ubuntu has really stepped it up for the Linux community, congratulations.
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