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- Bloodwine, on 10/08/2009, -2/+33Optimize boot process? You mean I'm the only one who plays the, "can I beat my last uptime?", game? My Linux server reboots about as often as I have sex. Now if you excuse me, I need to put some ointment on my blue balls...
- nxusername, on 10/08/2009, -1/+18Why not put this info all on one page?
- centran, on 10/08/2009, -0/+16Couple problems with the boot up.
I wouldn't recommend setting the grub timeout to 0 until you are sure there are no problems and make sure to put a little bit of timeout in if you update the kernel.
You need to be careful when setting concurrency in /etc/init.d/rc Some process need to start before others which might break by having different processes go to different cores.
Most systems do not need to worry about swap because the system will never touch it. That tip is only good for old machines you are trying to bring life back into. - kyxi, on 10/08/2009, -1/+12Boot process is already very fast on Linux. What they need to do is make hibernation work.
- shnuffy, on 10/08/2009, -0/+10Are you being serious? What a strange way to wordsmith that.
- 0tis, on 10/08/2009, -1/+11People who give a toss about the environment. When you're sleeping, give your computer a chance too.
- sigmaman2, on 10/08/2009, -0/+10Using your mouse on your trackpad? Well there's your problem right there.
- saranagati, on 10/08/2009, -0/+8they both work for me although i usually have to create my own scripts for it to work. in fact if anyone needs them...
http://www.narcopia.com/code/suspend-to-disk.c/sus ...
http://www.narcopia.com/code/suspend-to-ram.c/susp ... - footbag01, on 10/08/2009, -0/+8Good post! Fortunately it's not only about boot time.
- InactiveUser, on 10/08/2009, -0/+7My 70 year ol mother can use Linux mate, WTF is wrong with you?
- KrazyMon2, on 10/08/2009, -0/+7The spam is really starting to get annoying. Just keep reporting them when you bury the comment and hopefully soon they will be banned.
- MrRtd, on 10/08/2009, -0/+7I'm not really concerned with boot up time, I find it quite reasonably quick, and I don't reboot very often anyway. Comparing boot up time for Kubuntu (version 9.04 and 9.10)vs. Vista, Kubuntu is definately the winner. Sure Vista shows the desktop quickly, but it remains pretty much useless until everything is loaded, where as in Linux once the desktop shows up, you can immediately start getting work done.
I did find the Firefox tips helpful, anything to speed it up! - pintocat, on 10/08/2009, -3/+9I used Ubuntu as my desktop at home for a year and a half.
Pulse Audio was problematic for me... I wish they hadn't switched to it at all. That's the biggest beef I had.
Fixing things in Linux, even in Ubuntu, meant editing config files, rather than using a GUI. I have nothing against config files, but a GUI is much easier to guess what needs to be changed, rather than googling some arcane series of switches and ***** to put in a text file. - cawpin, on 10/08/2009, -1/+7"You run Gnome on your server?"
Yeah, why not? Mine's a home file server and it is sometimes faster to use it to move or copy things around. - chadsmith729, on 10/08/2009, -3/+8You run Gnome on your server? I think they are talking about desktop implementations here, not server implementations.
- chadsmith729, on 10/08/2009, -2/+7This is a very informative and good article. Went through some of the steps and they worked really well.
- stylesP, on 10/12/2009, -0/+5ChromeOS is Linux
- footbag01, on 10/08/2009, -0/+5Good point! I installed a dual boot Ubuntu on my wifes laptop two months ago. It default boots to Windows. The other day she wanted to use a vista program, and I just told her to reboot. Then I realized why she didn't know that. The computer hadn't been rebooted since I installed Ubuntu.
Pretty stable! - Bicep, on 10/09/2009, -0/+5With the lightning speed of Ubuntu Karmic (both on bootup and in general), Firefox 3.5, and Google Chromium browser on Linux, most of these tweaks I wouldn't implement. But I do like this article because it helps to show how things work and where to tinker. No restrictions baby... that's GNU/Linux.
- stoneage7, on 10/08/2009, -1/+5actually if you look at the startup sequence, you'll find that gdm starts relatively early (after acpi/apm, loggers, dbus, etc)
- ivanmarsh, on 10/08/2009, -1/+5Give it a few months. I'm going to assume that 7 suffers from the same issues every other version of Windows suffers from. As long as you don't use it, it runs fine. The more you use it the more degraded, slow and broken it gets.
- waspbr, on 10/08/2009, -2/+61 - long scrolling pages are not very professional
2 - you can place more adds - antdude, on 10/09/2009, -0/+4What are "adds"? :P
- dayal911, on 10/08/2009, -0/+4I don't trust the concurrent bootup. I've tried this on a different distro, and it wasn't too kind.
- vzzz, on 10/08/2009, -1/+4Those kinds of articles pop up on digg every few months. This article is actually somewhat usefull, but they all suffer from lack of any kind of benchmarks. How much improvement do those changes bring? Practice shows that most of them won't be even noticable.
- fcukthisgame, on 10/09/2009, -0/+3For gentoo users, skip the concurrency and change RC_PARALLEL_STARTUP to yes in /etc/rc.conf (might be /etc/conf.d/rc, it's been a while). Put your display manager in the boot runlevel, and all noncritical ones in default.
- Bicep, on 10/09/2009, -0/+3Funny. I'm seeing articles out there about how 7 actually boots slower than Vista on some machines (credit: Iolo). All I can say is 'Whew' - glad I'm not using that crap. Also, what about all the slowness that happens after logging in to windows (the taskbar in windows is terrible, and is an evil, evil thing) - gives a whole new definition to measuring bootup time, it should be bootup-to-usable-state as the measurement, not just bootup to the login screen.
Also, the update process in Windows is severely broken because the OS has an update mechanism that only works for itself, and so then the applications have their own update mechanism, as well as the applications brothers/uncles/fathers/sisters/and grandpas... it's no wonder it takes so long to login to windows and wait for all the taskbar crap to load - you actually get to see a boxing match between the OS/Application/Security update mechanisms.
Any respectable GNU/Linux distro with a package manager, updates everything APPS/OS/SECURITY in one pass, and typically without an annoying reboot involved.
Tap into the planet of Technology.. Tap into GNU/Linux and Free yourself! - removesstains, on 10/08/2009, -0/+3All i need is for Resume to work flawlessly every time i open my laptop from suspend. It's like every time i think i fixed it something else will randomly slow it down. Its my only pet peeve, at least it only happens randomly. But it always seems to happen when i need to do a quick check for email or something.
- removesstains, on 10/08/2009, -0/+3I am interested, I'll check out what you posted when i get home from work tonight. Thanks
- HonoredMule, on 10/08/2009, -0/+3Market share is for profiteers. I don't want Linux in my stock portfolio, I want it on my gateway and storage server.
- saranagati, on 10/08/2009, -0/+3yeah, most the suspend scripts from the distro's seem to do so much that they end up ***** up. I just made my own simple one that shuts down networking (on rh based distros), sync's the disk, suspends, resumes restarts networking. I posted the links a few threads up if you're interested.
- warMen, on 10/08/2009, -0/+2concurrency on boot up seems like a bad idea. First of all, certain processes need to start before others. Second of all, boot up is i/o heavy, and if its properly concurrent they will (should) lock the i/o consecutively...
So it really shouldn't be that much faster and its dangerous.
Good article though - Haplo, on 10/08/2009, -0/+2Digg this spammer down, then click on the "Report it" link, thank you.
- Rudegar, on 10/08/2009, -1/+3not sure if you ever used it by my gf have no problems using ubuntu
- Xiata, on 10/08/2009, -0/+2Hate to break it to you, but that is just userland apps that are started in Windows at that stage, not services that I am talking about. Gnome still does this exact same thing, and in my system's case, nothing starts at login for my Windows machine, but that's not the point I am trying to get at.
Windows supports automatic starting of services with delayed start, linux needs this kind of startup. This allows the machine to be in a usable state before non-critical services are started. You might like the linux way of handling it (start everything at once) but the common user just wants to use their computer, not wait for it. - fungie5, on 10/09/2009, -0/+2I was about to post the same comment. I totally agree. Karmic's release date is just two and a half weeks away (Oct 27th) and they've seriously optimized its boot sequence, so this article is practically outdated as far as Ubuntu is concerned. But I've added it to my How to bookmarks in Firefox for future reference. Knowledge is power after all.
- removesstains, on 10/08/2009, -0/+2Use suspend
- explodingzebras, on 10/08/2009, -1/+3I like the way linux loads my network before my desktop has loaded, unlike Windows where the desktop has loaded and theres still a load of stuff that needs to load in the tray.
- steviesteveo, on 10/08/2009, -0/+1Pow!
- HonoredMule, on 10/08/2009, -0/+1It depends how much your system is actually constrained in performance. Netbooks tend to benefit quite noticeably from appropriate tweaks. Relics will probably benefit similarly, but they'd have to be old enough to cause wonder why you're even using them for something that needs a GUI in the first place, yet I can't ever recall anyone being dissatisfied with their (computer's) command line performance.
- ivanmarsh, on 10/08/2009, -1/+2Agreed. Boot time is only a relevant factor to someone who's used to using an OS that needs to constantly be re-booted. The only time I re-boot Linux is when I install a new kernel or hardware.
- Xiata, on 10/08/2009, -0/+1It depends on distribution. gdm often does not start until the end of multiuser run level on many distributions, which shouldn't be the case.
- ZombieSociety, on 10/08/2009, -0/+1Because then people on Digg wouldn't bitch uselessly about something as insignificant as webpage formatting.
- HonoredMule, on 10/08/2009, -0/+1Sadly no one can or will offer a serious answer. I think it's a GNOME thing, as KDE mouse and especially trackpad handling seems much snappier across a few of my machines, not to mention actually configurable to not suck.
How can GNOME (or KDE for that matter) be so fantastic and such rubbish at the same time? /facepalm - ohplease, on 10/08/2009, -1/+2Who the hell would run X on a server?
- Xiata, on 10/08/2009, -0/+1Want to make Linux boot faster for desktop users?
Start non-critical services AFTER X has started. Starting apache, samba, ftp, and the likes before X is useful for servers, but is BLOODY STUPID for average users. Having a user wait at a splash screen/console for background processes to start doesn't make a bit of sense. - grnicon, on 10/08/2009, -6/+7Who reboots their desktop? Mine at work has a 70 day uptime. Even my MacBook has a 50 day uptime.
- mikemehak, on 10/08/2009, -3/+3hey thanks for that
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