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- badqat, on 06/08/2009, -2/+25How many folks who run Linux buy off the shelf systems? I'd think most would either dual (or tri) boot, or build their own boxes.
- nosg, on 06/08/2009, -0/+12Yeah but not everybody is a Linux geek like us. Some people just want a virus-free web-mail-office (even a portable DVD player) PC right out of the box.
- diceau, on 06/09/2009, -9/+20Why will I buy Windows and ignore Linux and Mac? One word: Compatibility.
- foltaggio, on 06/09/2009, -1/+10One word: Laptops
- FlareHeart, on 06/08/2009, -0/+8I build my own and use whichever Linux distro strikes my fancy at the time. Building my own is often cheaper than buying them pre-built anyway.
- MrHaiku, on 06/09/2009, -0/+7Three hundred bucks?
Well, I call shenanigans.
You are full of *****. - Chakat, on 06/09/2009, -1/+8Basically, MS dumped XP on the netbook market to keep that from happening. Netbook licensing for XP is $15/seat, which is trivial. Had MS kept XP pricing for netbooks at the more typical $40-$50/seat, you'd have seen a lot more Linux netbooks sold.
- mattsull, on 06/09/2009, -0/+620 months is a very long time
- scarz99, on 06/09/2009, -2/+8Um excuse me but, what do you mean by, "Buy Linux?"
- MrInfallible, on 06/09/2009, -0/+6To run Crysis at 1680x1050 50+ fps?
CPU $150
GPU $150
You still need
a case
mobo
ram
Hdd
Psu
Monitor - MacParrot, on 06/09/2009, -2/+7Really? Funny how there are millions using it and quite happy about it. Hardware compatibility isn't the issue it once was and there open-source software under pretty much any category you might name (except for many games, but if gaming is all you want a computer for then you're a frigging loser).
I prefer the Mac OS, but there's nothing wrong with Linux. Maybe you need to learn more about it. - nosg, on 06/08/2009, -3/+8That's why "crisis" has a whole different meaning in the Linux business. Opportunity.
- Binarydemon, on 06/09/2009, -2/+7I'll believe it when I see it. Linux was supposed to dominate the netbook market- by being more affordable, running more efficiently on the slower hardware, and by making the netbook more of a 'device' requiring almost no configuration and being bulletproof to viruses and malware. For whatever reason that has not happened. Linux models have a much higher return rate, and cost is virtually on par with XP models.
- inactive, on 06/09/2009, -1/+5Not biased at all.
- molobolo, on 06/09/2009, -1/+5Vista hate is so 2007.
Though, Vista on a Netbook ... who's clever idea was that? /s - DangerCollie, on 06/09/2009, -1/+4I bought a used Dell Latitude for $250 bucks and loaded it with Ubunut 9.04 and I've got a snappy laptop that I can dual boot if I ever need a good laugh.
But, a full size laptop is too big for the mobile apps we're building. I need something small and light, that I can glue velcro on the back and stick it to my thigh so I can make patient notes working in difficult situations. My medivac pilot buddy wouldn't have room in the chopper for a full size laptop, so Linux netbooks to the rescue for the production apps. I really need a Linux netbook/tablet. - j035u5, on 06/09/2009, -0/+3Urgh, how many times has this article been written? You will have trouble buying a laptop without windows or osx pre-installed, and as most people buy laptops these days price of the os is less of an issue than before rather than more. thats even increasingly true with netbooks, there are more of them on sale these days, but if i go down to my supermarket which sells them, they all have xp installed.
- PsychoBrat, on 06/09/2009, -0/+3The return rate was found to be primarily due to poorly advertised products -- people who had not made a conscious choice to try another operating system were surprised when they could not find a green box with "Start" written on it in any corner of their screen.
- PsychoBrat, on 06/09/2009, -2/+5Windows (without spending further thousands on bundles of software) supports strictly less file systems, less hardware, less file formats, less web standards, and less software than Mac OS X or any half-modern Linux distro. (High quality compatibility layers exist for running Windows software on Mac OS X and Linux, but Windows has no such thing for going the other way).
With all those out of the way, what's this compatibility you're talking about? :/ - PsychoBrat, on 06/09/2009, -0/+3The rarity of commercial games on Linux has the same "chicken and the egg" cause as the rarity of commercial games on Mac OS X: gamers won't run those operating systems until there are games, and publishers won't port their games over until there's demand from gamers.
Luckily, once you've got your game running on one of those, it's usually not much more of a stretch to get it running on the other, so uptake of either platform for gaming will, to some extent, benefit the other.
The real good news here is that Valve is making native Linux ports of Steam and its games. Once that's here, it won't be long until the other publishers have to follow. - diceau, on 06/09/2009, -2/+5I've never had hardware issues with Linux ... but it's more about software and general design I guess ... I don't want to have to learn how to use all the programs that I am so at ease in already (FL Studio, Photoshop, Word), plus as a gamer I want to stick with what's going to give me absolutely no issues with the games I want to play, and Windows has been number one with that for a long time.
I'm cool with people using whatever they like, and I suppose they do need to talk their OSs up to compete with Windows, but I still tend to try remind people that there are people out there that would prefer Windows, even with the cost. - MacParrot, on 06/09/2009, -0/+2Because there IS software only available that "I" need for the two main platforms. That doesn't mean that many others (probably most others) could get by just fine running Linux.
How many people just use a computer to surf the web or get email? Plenty of choices in Linux for those types of users. Throw in Open Office and another large chunk can get by with Linux.
You're really not making a good case here Molo. - nexusza, on 06/09/2009, -2/+4For all those folks that say Linux is unusable/incompatible/ugly are obviously those who have not taken the time to try and use one of the more modern Linux distributions and last time they tried was a few years ago. Plenty has changed already on the Linux Desktop OS market and you really should not make comments when you don't know what you are talking about.
I have been using Windows 7 RC for the last few months now and I have to say that while it is the best Windows OS at the moment (even at the RC stage) I still find it much more unusable than my Kubuntu 9.04 desktop. For gaming compatibility Windows is still king, but for proper productivity Linux is brilliant. And besides, all the games I enjoy run flawlessly on Linux. - RetepNamenots, on 06/09/2009, -0/+2Uhrm, what graphics card / Crysis settings are you using? Cause I get about 35 FPS in Crysis with everything bar AA maxed out at 1680x1050... and my PC cost me £1000 around 20 months ago...
- PsychoBrat, on 06/09/2009, -0/+2To help illustrate MacParrot's point: there was once a time when my needs dictated that I use Windows XP. I needed software for work and school that would only run on Windows.
Now, I have to spend *days* setting up Windows (changing bad defaults, hunting down all the extra software I need) to make it half-way usable for me.
In many modern Linux distros, on the other hand, *all* the software I need is either part of the default installation, or easily available from the official software repositories (i.e. check everything I need from a list, and those and all their dependencies will be downloaded and installed in one easy run).
Something similar applies to Mac OS X: I can imagine there are many users who would have great trouble switching back to Windows after the luxuries they've become accustomed to. Windows is increasingly becoming "that budget OS that is, for historical reasons (industry habits), the one you buy to run obscure and/or expensive domain-specific professional software suites".
And tax software from the Australian government, because they somehow haven't realised that they'd be better off with a web app. =) - MacParrot, on 06/09/2009, -1/+3damn...there IS open source...
- NexusV2, on 06/09/2009, -1/+3Considering he obviously has a working computer he would already have a Case, HDD, PSU and Monitor.
So it's really only the Mobo and the RAM. Maybe he mean around $300? - tao52nyc, on 06/09/2009, -0/+2"Price" alone is not the magic ticket past 0.9% desktop market share. I have the latest Ubuntu distro as a VM on my Mac. I wouldn't switch if you paid me.
- molobolo, on 06/09/2009, -0/+2You're not "buying" Linux since it would be the same price without it.
- MacParrot, on 06/09/2009, -1/+3If he's talking about buying everything he'd need for $300, I think you're right.
- fallingfree, on 06/09/2009, -8/+9Yet another linux fanboy rant. Bury it to hell.
- diceau, on 06/10/2009, -0/+1@Macintoshreader
Ah ok, yeah I only use geforce cards so I have no idea what Linux is like with Radeons. - JonathanWardUK, on 06/09/2009, -0/+1Well, if people can't manage to get their way around a basic version of linux there must be something wrong with them. I found linux to be much less hassle and much more usable than windows ever was!
- unleashed26, on 06/09/2009, -0/+1Dual-booting Angie and Martha at the same time causes many problems, though.
- chingy1788, on 06/09/2009, -4/+5It all goes well until some newbish non comp sci/eng student tries to install random windows program X
- passedoutghost, on 06/09/2009, -0/+1Specs?
- Hellman109, on 06/09/2009, -3/+4And some want to be able to play games out of the box, or use Outlook, easily.
- ialan2, on 06/09/2009, -3/+4Why will I buy Mac and ignore Linux and Windows? One word: It's shiny.
/me bad - Moralogic, on 06/09/2009, -0/+1It is pretty easy to set up a Linux computer now. I can't justify Window's Indian tech support, if you can even call it that, anymore, or Mac's insanely overpriced products.
So Linux with Wine is all I need. - passedoutghost, on 06/10/2009, -0/+1I can get an ATI 4890 for roughly $350 AUD which still turns out cheaper than the 2 8800GT's and has roughly comparable performance. Also leaving one slot free for crossfire in the future. The 8800's are old too.
I figured I could built a pretty good AMD cpu orientated rig for $900 - rpgmakr, on 06/09/2009, -0/+1I buy off the shelf systems.. and use Linux. And I'm about to buy one of those iMac clones that are appearing in the market :)
- inactive, on 06/09/2009, -0/+1I could do it for ~$700AUD just for the case.
- inactive, on 06/09/2009, -0/+1most linux people I know have several pc's so they dont have to dual boot (Im in the sysadmin part of IT and thus get alot of 2nd hand systems and parts, up to and including dual 3g intel's). Also typically you setup a nice linux desktop/ server/ media center and only have to upgrade 4-6 years later. These 2 reasons would have alot todo with low linux system purchase numbers.
- JonathanWardUK, on 06/09/2009, -0/+0I'm guessing you're not a fan then...
- Dylson, on 06/09/2009, -5/+5Linux sucks for anything outside of either fun eye candy or strictly server purposes.
- inactive, on 06/09/2009, -1/+1seriously, you try and troll this far down ?
lolz @ newbie &/ fail troll. - Macintoshreader, on 06/09/2009, -3/+3@diceau:
Try to install Linux if you have an ATI Radeon and tell me how it goes. I agree on that people don't like change, though. Especially if they perceive it to be change for the worst. -
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