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- eleete, on 07/07/2008, -2/+9I think, like a virus/spyware author, the Open Source community is going after the larger user base here. Getting Mac Apps to run on linux is not very hard, as they are both based in a unix mindset. Many things will run just fine on BSD(Mac's underlying OS) or Linux. That will be a natural progression and will be done in time, but grabbing that 90 ish % user base is a harder journey, with greater reward (users). Not to mention that many proprietary apps are written under both Mac and Windows, if for Mac at all. So again the argument becomes, we can then run Quark, Photoshop, and many other apps 'Available' to both Mac and Windows, but think about getting ALL those Windows users out of their lock in with Micro$oft. A far greater goal indeed, maybe not even attainable But Mac Apps on Linux will beat that goal in terms of time. So I'd say keep a lookout, If enough seek the solution, some community out there will address it.
- wheel3r6, on 07/07/2008, -1/+7LINUX & MAC are the way ahead now
- aircool00, on 07/07/2008, -0/+5Dear Steve Jobs,
I hate with an undying passion your "Gucci" priced hardware, your white enamel finish and every thing apple about apple. Except the OS(and Woz), I can get along with OSX as it is as it is closer to linux than windows and yet I can still run high end video apps and work in the film industry. Please open your OS to those how could care less about dancing around as a silhouette with iHeadphone on.
Thanks,
OSX86 - eleete, on 07/07/2008, -1/+4I think more what you might want to search is a Virtual Machine type software (to use the M$ term) It emulates a bios that matches the host computer. From there, you could install a Mac OS. Might be even legal if you format the drive of the mac and use the license on the linux box. Just thinkin' I think that's what the darlingicity of VMWare is. VMware, is poised as the Citrix/Hyper V technology altogether due to its availability to many OS's.
- Knomez, on 07/07/2008, -0/+3Correct, Wine is a compatibility layer for Linux. Though some may think its a matter of semantics, it does matter.
- inactive, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2Thanks, I have been searching around to get some of the apps I mentioned for some of my clients. Mainly they don't want to spend the money on Mac, but they are sick of Windows. The X86 project would be nice too.
- inactive, on 07/07/2008, -1/+3I agree that the 90% mark is more of a goal, it was more of just a question as to why there is nothing out there. Windows is doing a very good job of depleting their user base. Which I believe is always a good thing.
- Acglaphotis, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2No, it's not 'really' easy. How are people supposed to translate Cocoa calls to a native linux api? Excluding the BSD kernel, Mac is as closed source as Windows -_-'.
- eleete, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2There is something in the wings on sourceforge, my favorite site for Open Source. It is called Max On Linux
http://mac-on-linux.sourceforge.net/
That is the site/solution I see most often in the quotes. None others I can find mention anything else which is odd, but means they're out in front. I think. (not a mac user)
Though I did just fix one this afternoon. - inactive, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2Eleete - Thanks for pointing out that Wine is not an emulator, that has little to do with the question I posed, but keep on searching. For this story that Wine being emulator or not is semantics.
- eleete, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2I'd say Open Source is the way now. Its economically and intellectually the better product. Imagine millions of eyes being able to see M$'s holy Intellectual Property. Imagine the scrutiny, imagine the bugs we have no idea of. Open Source is public, therefore more eyes are on it, sometimes a uber-proggramer comes along and fixes it free of charge just to make others smile. Like me ; )
- Acglaphotis, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2*You* could probably port some apps from Mac to Linux if you have the code, but to make a whole compatibility layer is a little bit more difficult. You have take in question Cocoa and Aqua, and realize that they are as closed source as windows, and probably just as hard to reverse engineer.
- inactive, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2I am the author and I called it an emulator, and Knomez informs me it's a compatibility layer.
- inactive, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1They did kind of open up the door to hardware when they went Intel hardware. Interesting legal question. They haven't made much of a stand to the OSX86 project.
- inactive, on 07/07/2008, -1/+2OK, Wine is not an emulator, but that is not the point of the article. I'm simply putting the question out porting Mac apps to Linux.
- eleete, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1by definition or by proof of argument ? A quick google search shows that wine is not an emulator. The same search says wine emulates a windows environment. A religious debate with many posts i am sure. I would google "wine emulator" no quotes and join in. By Wine's definition, Wine means Wine Is Note an Emulator, thus its an acronym.
- inactive, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1I know about VMware, but I was thinking that since both Linux and Mac basically run UNIX at the core that apps might be even easier to port over. Going through Windows registry entries seems like it would be more complicated. Like I said though, I'm not a coder.
- Acglaphotis, on 07/14/2008, -0/+1eleete: Mac on Linux is a virtualization app.
- eleete, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1oops, I think I goofed, you may only be able to run Mac os on designated Max hardware. Standard Attorney Advice from here on in. Govern Yourself Accordingly.
- eleete, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1dang it, Note = Not, digg needs to give me 5 days not 5 minutes, lol
- Diggtatorship, on 07/07/2008, -2/+2Wine Is Not an Emulator
- WantToPlay, on 07/07/2008, -0/+0lol.... are we losing it here? :) I like reading your comments, John.... especially when you make an error and correct it....lol
- eleete, on 07/09/2008, -2/+1once again check out Mac on Linux at sourceforge, the link is provided above, and yes the Kernel of Win and Mac are closed tight, but if you want anyone to write a single app for your OS, you must produce an API (Application Programming Interface). In order to do programming - you tend to have to specify how. THAT part is not closed, and is in fact, much more open, and can thus be reverse engineered.... a la Mac on Linux ; )
- smrekar, on 07/07/2008, -2/+1he calls wine an emulator. anyone know if this is true?
- WantToPlay, on 07/07/2008, -3/+0I have NO idea what anyone is talking about in here!!!! I use my computer for.............. whatever...to graphic to tell... lol
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