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- Vinvin, on 11/25/2007, -4/+181Note that this is complete speculation - nobody (AFAIK) has so far contacted the MPAA. However, it does sound fishy and honestly, who wouldn't love sueing the MPAA over copyright violation? :)
- kahrn, on 11/25/2007, -1/+147Breaking copyright laws to preserve copyright laws... I understand entirely!
- inactive, on 11/25/2007, -3/+109Why does this seem more like a Rootkit than a Toolkit? I really hope that Canonical takes action against them.
- arjie, on 11/25/2007, -0/+69Hmm, a Linux ISO, they should have used BitTorrent to save bandwidth.
- sqrt7744, on 11/25/2007, -0/+38wget -q http://universitytoolkit.org/peerwatch-1.2-RC5.iso >/dev/null
- 9a3eedi, on 11/25/2007, -0/+38SHHHHH!!! Dont talk about this. Once MPAA's version of Xubuntu spreads everywhere, we can sue the ***** out of them.. that way we can get them where it hurts
- joelito, on 11/25/2007, -1/+33Someone should post a howto on creating a similar distro.
- ToadLeg, on 11/25/2007, -0/+32It monitors and records all network traffic, contacts the MPAA with its location, allows unauthorized access from the internet, and does not log when it is accessed? Who does the MPAA think it's fooling?
- inactive, on 11/25/2007, -1/+33Ha! Ha! Ha! The MPAA *and* Ubuntu? This is going platinum!
- Wrathernaut, on 11/25/2007, -0/+32You do whatever you want, but anything based on it must also have freely available source code.
- BlackJackJester, on 11/25/2007, -1/+26My understanding is that this just tells the Network administrators how much traffic of theirs is bittorrent - something they can already do. However, since its a third party program, there is probably an MPAA backdoor into the campus network, letting them violate the privacy of the students. Why else would they do this?
- freddo, on 11/25/2007, -2/+20Who would run a distro from guys who are the first to shoot you with a gun for more than two mp3 downloaded?
Wait? Perhaps it's not a bad idea to make them think they have the ultimate tool here against copyright infringement, I'd suggest you install this on all your enemies computers then "apt-get install azureus amule", telling them that of course MPAA allows it, it's the MPAA distribution doesn't it?! Provided that, as every geek, you have quite stupid peoples annoying you...
Of course you should also disable most of the sources in /etc/apt/sources.list so they can't get updates, eventually letting us setup a huge botnet with ftp or bittorrent servers. After all every program you use with the linux kernel isn't so fool-proof.
The next step would be, obviously, to setup a cronjob to send the MPAA logs of their p2p activity... they will eventually be so flooded with courts order that they might finally let the rest of "us" alone in the dark, or at least in tranquility... - DigitAl56K, on 11/25/2007, -0/+16Step 1 - Form an association comprising the six most influential movie studios in the world
Step 2 - Learn that BitTorrent = the devil
Step 3 - Create Linux distribution that spies on network traffic
Step 4 - Promote it to University IT people as a means of "monitoring bandwidth"
Step 5 - Leave an auto-update system in there calling home. Claim it's because you were having trouble with bandwidth values exceeding 32 bits (4GB).
Seriously, MPAA, why would you even bother releasing a tool to monitor high bandwidth users if it can't count past 32 bits? The mind boggles.
Also, way to go improving your image amongst the teenagers with this one. - purelithium, on 11/25/2007, -1/+16The reporter who wrote the article has an interview with an MPAA representative IN the article. Dugg down for laziness and inaccuracy.
The Article itself doesn't say anything about copyright infringement on Canonical. - lengau, on 11/25/2007, -0/+15Here's some help in requesting the source.
download http://universitytoolkit.org/peerwatch-1.2-RC5.iso
Then, e-mail the following (or, preferably, a modified version) to pegge@mpaa.org:
To whom it may concern:
I recently downloaded a copy of your University Toolkit.
In compliance with the GNU General Public License (http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html) and Lesser General Public License (http://www.gnu.org/licenses/lgpl.html), I hereby formally request a copy of the source code of all GPL and LGPL licensed software on your CD image.
Additionally, in compliance with the Apache License (Version 2.0) (http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0), I hereby request the source code of all Apache-licensed software to be delivered to me alongside the GPL'd code.
I would prefer this code on compact disc, mailed to me directly. Please contact me for my postage address if you so decide to send me the source code in such a way.
Sincerely,
$YOURNAMEHERE - Jawshie, on 11/25/2007, -0/+13It says you should give back to the community and redistribute the source and credit the original creators.
- mindhaq, on 11/25/2007, -0/+13Is there a torrent of this toolkit available from MPAA?
- RoadWarriorX11, on 11/25/2007, -0/+11Downloading the ISO now, gonna run it in VirtualBox and let you guys know what I think, even if it could contain a rootkit or some other malicious code that cannot curb my curiosity.
- Vinvin, on 11/25/2007, -0/+11When an application is licensed under the GPL, it falls under copyright law. If they are breaking the GPL (by not providing the sources) they are breaking copyright law.
- megaton, on 11/25/2007, -5/+15I'm about being fair to all parties, but this article makes NO mention of copyright or trademark violation. If this digg is about such topics, can someone please provide links alleging such behavior?
- lengau, on 11/25/2007, -0/+9They don't provide the source code. I say we get everyone on Digg to e-mail them requesting the source code. Then, when they fail to comply, we get the owners of the copyrights of all of these projects (several hundred, if it's not much different from the regular Xubuntu release) to sue them because of it.
- luchid, on 11/25/2007, -0/+9This is what scares me the most:
FTA: Here's why: The toolkit sets up an Apache Web server on the user's machine. It also automatically configures all of the data and graphs gathered about activity on the local network to be displayed on a Web page, complete with ntop-generated graphics showing not only bandwidth usage generated by each user on the network, but also the Internet address of every Web site each user has visited.
Oure and uteer violation of privacy. - inactive, on 11/25/2007, -0/+9Wonder what Stallman thinks about this. Talk abt irony.
- GMorgan, on 11/25/2007, -1/+10There don't have to be any allegations. Unless the MPAA have made a direct offer of source code to their users they are in violation. It is worth noting that they do not have to link to sources on their web site nor do they have to give source to any one who asks. Only the people who they have distributed to have that right and the MPAA may choose to deal with this by mail.
- drakia, on 11/25/2007, -0/+8Actually, I do have a copy of the toolkit, I just downloaded it, from their website, where it's available to the general public. And I also just emailed the address the domain is registered to (pegge@mpaa.org) asking for the source code. Let's see what happens.
- TheShad0w, on 11/25/2007, -0/+8Exactly. Any self respecting Sys Admin knows how to monitor the various bandwidth and protocol usage of each IP address on the network. Heck they should even know throttling techniques. This just seems like a load of B.S. and way to obvious. I'd want to dig through their distro more before I even considered installing it on any private netowork
- FreakyT, on 11/25/2007, -0/+8*sniff*...so noble....
- merreborn, on 11/25/2007, -0/+8The Motion Picture Association (MPA) is the international counterpart of the Motion Picture Association of America
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_Picture_Associ ... - derjames, on 11/25/2007, -1/+9MPAAbuntu? What's next?...
- tapo, on 11/25/2007, -2/+9Read the Washington Post article. Why would an MPAA representitive comment on the software, its features, and try to play off the privacy concerns if it was 'bogus'?
Reading through the administrator manual, this is not only very real, but actually pretty useful for discovering bandwidth hogs. The question remains if they violated the GPL or not. - lowesch, on 11/25/2007, -0/+7Yes but they must also state that when you download it, and who you are supposed to contact. Something they don't.
- jer2eydevil88, on 11/25/2007, -0/+7The website (if you want to call it that) was done in Dreamweaver, they probably hired a 12 year old kid to make both the Linux distro and the site.
- DustPuppySnr, on 11/25/2007, -2/+8So someone should install this at a University. Let every one know and let all of the students download all the versions of Ubuntu they can find via encrypted connections. Let the MPAA see all this traffic and see what they do.
- Skooma714, on 11/25/2007, -1/+710 PRINT FASCISM
20 GOTO 10 - livestradamus, on 11/25/2007, -0/+6RIAAbuntu?
- Qumahlin, on 11/25/2007, -0/+6most universities already have the ability to do everything this software does. The difference is the universities software doesn't set up a web page with all these statistics that can easily be viewed by outside companies
- 89992, on 11/25/2007, -5/+11Reminds me of pro life crazies killing doctors for "the greater good" lol
- inactive, on 11/25/2007, -0/+5Just imagine the media coverage that Canonical and Ubuntu will get if they sue the MPAA. Sweet :)
- Andrej73, on 11/25/2007, -2/+7Nice to see, when the hangman hang himself.
:) - HerrEisenheim, on 11/25/2007, -0/+5The GNU GPL requires that you make the source available if you use any code that's also licensed under the GPL.
However, there are licenses that allow for proprietary, non-reciprocal use. Namely, things licensed under BSD terms. - mdshort, on 11/25/2007, -1/+6The whole point of the article is that the MPAA are violating copyright by keeping the Xubuntu name and violating GPL by not providing sources.
- mikal, on 11/25/2007, -3/+8There's no need to provide links to downloadable sources: It is enough that the sources are available on request.
- greekgoat91, on 11/25/2007, -0/+5sue them
- X1pher, on 11/25/2007, -0/+5Some one put up a torrent of the ISO on the pirate bay would ya?
- mithrasinvictus, on 11/25/2007, -0/+5scobuntu?
- lengau, on 11/25/2007, -0/+5That's an offense to 12-year-olds. Plus, the kid's 8.
- kacymartin, on 11/25/2007, -1/+6He got it from the fact that 2^32 (which is what a 32 bit number is) = 4,294,967,296 in decimal
unless you're a hard drive manufacturer - SteelFrog, on 11/25/2007, -0/+51- Go to 2.
2- Go to 1. - andycr512, on 11/25/2007, -1/+5Uh, hello? It's the MPAA being hypocrites. They are the ones who are so pro-strict-copyright it isn't even funny, then turn around and don't even TRY to honor other people's copyrights.
- andycr512, on 11/25/2007, -1/+5Please step back and look at your horse. OK, see how he's lying on the ground? See how he's motionless? See that empty, accusing stare? The horse is dead. Dead as a doornail. Yes, that's right, you are beating a dead horse. Please just walk away.
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