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- TheCoreh, on 12/20/2008, -7/+502009 is the year of the linux desktop!
- inactive, on 12/19/2008, -9/+46Highly interesting article. Linux keeps getting bigger and bigger. Google, IBM, Novell, etc are supporting it. It will be interesting to say the least.
- dobryjr, on 12/20/2008, -5/+40I hear that every year...
- inactive, on 12/20/2008, -3/+36http://digg.com/linux_unix/2008_Year_of_the_Linux_ ...
http://digg.com/linux_unix/Dell_Linux_Rolls_On
http://digg.com/linux_unix/2006_The_year_that_chan ... - SecureXeC, on 12/20/2008, -16/+46Oh, God.
Here comes the ***** circlejerk. Again. - LordSkywalker, on 12/20/2008, -6/+342009, the year of Linux? Get real. Everyone knows Linux is illegal. Do you actually Microsoft would ALLOW free software? But every year you persist. That's it, I'm calling the cops.
- Bicep, on 12/19/2008, -14/+39The article says, "QuickBoot, where you power on your machine and a couple of seconds later, you've booted into a Linux-powered mini-environment with network access, e-mail, and so on."
The part where it says "e-mail" is where we're going to have a BIG problem. You see, Exchange 2007 doesn't play too happy with anything besides Outlook and/or Windows-based-Internet-Explorer. So when the slick executive gets his shiny new "QuickBoot" enabled laptop, he will be very PISSED when he can't access his email as he should be able to from within the QuickBoot environment (don't think even for a second that it's not possible for him to have a fully-featured web-based email client that is accessible from GNU/Linux).
This is where the paradigm shift needs to take place... Instead of users thinking "this quickboot needs to have Outlook so I can get my email", they need to be thinking, how come Firefox in GNU/Linux does not access the Exchange OWA with the SAME FUNCTIONALITY as Windows-IE?? This is where the IT mgrs and administrators are going to have to either DEMAND that Exchange 2007 be FULLY Interoperable with all web browsers(such as Firefox in GNU/Linux), or they are going to have to get another Email server solution (e.g., Zimbra or PostPath, etc.). Given the stubbornness, I think the latter will need to take place before the former is recognised.
BRING IT ON!!! STOP THE TAX!!!!
GO GNU/LINUX!!! - subgeniusd, on 12/19/2008, -5/+28No the last article sentence is the most significant: "Linux is no longer in a position where we need to perform flanking maneuvers; we can now meet things head-on."
I never expected a magic Linux bullet abruptly toppling the Redmond behemoth. Just a gradual and continuous undermining of their unethical marketing machine.
And that is exactly what is happening. - iDiggIt42, on 12/20/2008, -8/+30Yea. We've never heard this before.
- pstroll, on 12/20/2008, -8/+26for($i=1991;$i;$i++) {
print $i . " is the year of linux\!\n";
sleep (31556926);
} - leodavinci, on 12/20/2008, -5/+22What isn't user friendly enough about it? Or is it just different from Windows? Don't make the mistake of it being different from Windows meaning that it isn't user friendly.
- Dumbledorito, on 12/20/2008, -2/+17Again, for the first time!
- earthforce1, on 12/20/2008, -1/+16I'm certainly going to help that statistic:
1. Bought a linux equipped EEPC as a christmas present today
2. Ordered the parts for an i7/940 scream machine desktop running ubuntu - leodavinci, on 12/20/2008, -1/+15Read the whole article, the author isn't saying Ubuntu is going to be on more machines than Windows this year. He is saying that every machine is getting a preboot environment that runs on Linux.
- e2superman, on 12/20/2008, -16/+28lol. 09 is the new 08, 08 is the new 07. Every year I hear this. Linux is great for the server, HPC, enthusiast. It is by no means ready for the mass market. Even unbuntu is not user friendly enough.
- kdorf, on 12/19/2008, -5/+16Seems to me to be another "this is the year of Linux" article, which I just don't really see happening. I want Linux to come out on top as much as the next guy, but let's be realistic here.
While I do expect that Linux will continue to become more popular (specifically Ubuntu), I hardly believe that it would ship on more desktops than Windows. Hell, I don't expect them to sell more Linux machines that OS X machines. Unless there are big, big changes coming down the pipeline that I'm not aware of (and while Wine in Ubuntu by default is big, it's probably not enough) there isn't a whole lot Linux can do to try and overthrow Linux at this point.
Linux will continue to slowly grab market share. That's about it though. - ProTech, on 12/20/2008, -0/+11Actually Linux is not that bad for a mom. My mother uses it for internet (firefox), e-mail (thunderbird), IM (gaim), skype. She only needs to know how to login (graphical), and then start and use these programs. This is user-friendly, simple, etc. So Linux is perfect for my mother, because she cannot break anything (no root rights), and I can update remotely with ssh if needed.
The more problem is with Windows power users, and gamers, but thats not your mom. - Slade605, on 12/20/2008, -0/+9That was the worst that's what she said I've ever seen.
- Slade605, on 12/20/2008, -0/+9Yes, and if you read the article it's about linux being built into a ROM chip on the motherboard. So every computer, Linux/windows will have a small linux boot partition setup on the motherboard before any disks are even detected.
- grungegbunny, on 12/20/2008, -3/+11'09- Year of the Linux Desktop.
- ORBAT, on 12/20/2008, -10/+182009 is the year of the Linux desktop! No, I mean 2008 was! Oops, that was supposed to be 2007. No, 2006. Ok, 2005.
Damnit, we'll get it right in 2010.
2011 at the very latest, I promise.
Ok, 2015.
2020 is definitely the year of the Linux desktop though. - Biznarie, on 12/20/2008, -1/+7That and the interface is a bit different and behaves more like outlook, functionality wise i think its good enough on firefox.
- inactive, on 12/20/2008, -0/+62009 will be the Year of The Linux Desktop. Really, I'm not kidding this time.
- Slade605, on 12/20/2008, -2/+8I'd slap you if I could, Oh web 10.0 where are you?
- JonForTheWin, on 12/20/2008, -1/+6Using internet explorer to update your operating system, THAT is *****, and only updates that, the operating system.
If you need 3rd party drivers nine times out of ten you bought ***** hardware (broadcom etc).
/usr/bin . .
No, they don't. GRUB is fine.
That all said, you ***** fail. - ch40sBr1ng3r, on 12/20/2008, -1/+6"there isn't a whole lot Linux can do to try and overthrow Linux at this point."
Huh? - EVPacket, on 12/20/2008, -1/+6OWA you can only access what is saved on the network.
Outlook client allows you to use auto complete, personal folders and archives, addons, just to name some popular ones. - tama00, on 12/20/2008, -4/+9Lol look how many people have posted within the last 3 mins as soon as the article hit the front page.
Do you guys even read the article? Or are you just out on a race for who can post the quickest to get the most thumbs up... - kikiriki, on 12/20/2008, -0/+4I don't know why people say Mac Os X is easier than Linux. the first time that I used my Macbook, I spent hours before to eliminate those "disk images" after installing a program. Even worse, the mess to start a program without using Quicksilver. (People should memorize some shortcuts to enjoy it)
Maybe because is not that easy, some Apple stores teach the basic use of MacOsx...if you buy it.
I guess is something that Linux enthusiasts/sellers should do: Teach how to use the new PC with Ubuntu pre-installed, for example. - carrtoonist, on 12/20/2008, -0/+4The reason why Linux users are so hopelessly enthusiastic is because it is difficult, after using linux, to understand why people don't use it.
Their only fallacy is giving people to much credit. - talonh, on 12/20/2008, -1/+5I really hate to tell you this but you used linux to post your comment. I guess your digg days are over now.
- FKnight, on 12/20/2008, -0/+4At this point, for doing the things that ProTech mentions, (Web browsing, email, IM, VoiP), distributions like Ubuntu are indeed no less user friendly than Windows.
- bluechild, on 12/20/2008, -2/+6Wow. Cliche. We don't care (tm). If you don't like it don't use it.
- Bicep, on 12/20/2008, -0/+3I hate to clobber you on this but BELIEVE ME... I use Ubuntu everyday at work(thanks wubi), I boot into it first thing and OUTLOOK WEB ACCESS SUCKS ASS on Firefox in GNU/Linux. I'm talking Exchange 2007 here... there's no public folders access, there's no creating tasks, there's no making notes for LINUX/MAC folks, and the rest of the interface completely friggin sucks. Believe me, I'm not making it up!!! I've tested it everyday for months and it sucks! People must not be blinded to this!!
I only wish I could provide a demo for you to test it out.. believe me, I swear on my life, OWA2007 SUCKS ASS ON GNU/Linux - and it's not GNU/Linux's fault!!
If you want to see how well a web experience for email can work if the company wants it to, checkout the Zimbra demo at: http://www.zimbra.com/products/hosted_demo.php
The Zimbra experience would work SO much better for QuickBoot users than OWA. Anybody that says anything else is either blind, biased, or smoking something. Believe me.
Now it's time TO DEMAND that this crap be fixed!! If someone is making a server product that is served up via port 80(or 443) on the web, the friggin thing should NOT CARE what OS and Browser the user has because it should use the damn standards!
DOWN WITH COMPANIES THAT ARE BREAKING THE WEB!!! - JayjayToo, on 12/20/2008, -0/+3I suggest we flip this ***** around and just say "LINUX : THE OPERATING SYSTEM OF THE YEAR".
It will be a lot cheaper for me since I won't have to reprint my stickers every year. - init100, on 12/20/2008, -0/+3@subgeniusd
Use GoboLinux if that's what you want.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gobolinux - fjc8, on 12/20/2008, -0/+3Novell doesn't just support Linux. Novell became one of the big Linux vendors when they bought SuSE. This is the big area they're still relevant in.
IBM contributes quite a bit to Linux kernel development. I suspect IBM supports Linux because their customers want it. IBM also supports Solaris... if everyone decided they would stop using Linux and start using (say) NetBSD, then IBM would probably become a huge supporter of that. The two biggest corporate contributors are Red Hat and Novell, the companies behind the two main enterprise Linux distributons and two popular free Linux distributions.
see link for lots of info: http://www.linuxfoundation.org/publications/linuxk ... - DigitalPioneer, on 12/20/2008, -0/+3Not necessarily true. If you can actually force people to ask questions such as "Why is my outlook crippled in Firefox?" then eventually they will start finding answers. Microsoft is only interested in telling you what you cannot do. When people realize that, maybe they will start looking for an alternative. Then they will realize that Linux is the alternative, it's everywhere, and they've been using it for years and never even realized it.
- ScottyMcBaggs, on 12/20/2008, -0/+3rofl, that's why php 'suks'? facepalm
- DigitalPioneer, on 12/20/2008, -0/+3@Midnitte:
Absolutely true, though I bought my laptop from HP and immediately removed vista. I phoned them and requested a refund, which they denied. I then demanded a refund, reminding them that they are under legal obligation to provide it, and they still refused. Not exactly unexpected, but my point is, big name manufacturers force you to use vista. They then illegally refuse to give you a refund.
What this amounts to is, people need to be educated ahead of time, to know what they are buying and what they are paying for it. When people start buying Linux computer en masse, then the manufacturers will be liberated to leave MS in the dust and start making computers *for* the customers instead of against them. - bejayel, on 12/20/2008, -0/+3If google is making an OS, i would venture to guess that it would just be another linux distrobution.
- MattBD, on 12/20/2008, -0/+2Mac OS X is not easier to use than Linux. It depends on the distro. I use Windows, OS X and Linux (mainly Ubuntu), and I can assure you that OS X is not easier.
Installing new software is a lot more fiddly in OS X than Ubuntu - Add/Remove is a really easy way to install any new applications. I have far more problems installing software in OS X than Ubuntu - the other day I had to install Tkinter and that was such a pain because I had to download MacPython, install the parts I wanted, then delete a couple of apps. While in Ubuntu it was "sudo apt-get install python tk". The non CLI-savvy can use Synaptic to make it easier.
Also, it's less obvious what the applications do, whereas Ubuntu lists items in the Applications menu by category so it's obvious what everything does. - DigitalPioneer, on 12/20/2008, -0/+2That's where it's our ('us' being those who know jack about operating systems) job to come in and tell them that is impossible, and pointless. Then we tell them of the benefits of using a _quality_ system instead of some crippleware crap from Microsoft.
- bejayel, on 12/20/2008, -2/+4Actually, 2009 and 2010 are probably going to shape up to be promising years for linux. I even have the number one company in saskatchewan turn their heads toward it as the economy slows.
With what they would use it for, most companies would benefit from linux at the desktop level for sure. You dont need extra training, so long as you can find the tools you need for the os. The only major cost is everything associated with migration at this point. However, looking into the forseeable future, that cost cost is nothing when compared to licensing microsoft products. - ORBAT, on 12/20/2008, -0/+2Uh, I run Gentoo on all my machines.
- virtualmode, on 12/20/2008, -0/+2As soon as big countries (like China, Russia etc) move their government and educational institutions we'll see a significant growth of Linux market share. China has plans to do this by 2010. Russia is already doing this in schools. Germany has a good adaption of Linux already and continues expanding it. Spain moves it education to Linux. Many other countries are moving to Linux.
Economical situation in 2009 and netbooks will also be significant factors of Linux expansion. Additional factors include even better usability and hardware support which Linux will definitely have next year.
"Year of smthg's desktop" is not a clear definition. But we will definitely see a significant growth of Linux adaption both in absolute numbers (numbers of users worldwide) and percentage numbers (Linux market share). - ch40sBr1ng3r, on 12/20/2008, -0/+2Im a solid Linux user. I dont think 2009 is going to help us much. I think it is easy to use now, depending on how computer savvy you are, but it still needs to be a bit more streamlined to hit every desktop. I'd say a couple more years and we will surpass microsoft, but for now, we are and still will be the underdog. (Sorry fellow *nix users)
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BTW, inb4 RTFA. I did, and im just putting in my two cents to the drones that post 2009 year of linux desktop. -
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