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- martalli, on 01/06/2008, -0/+27I want something that will finally integrate well with my linux computers.
- superyounan1, on 01/06/2008, -0/+25looks ugly, works great? its exactly opposite to what i'm used to
- colincornaby, on 01/06/2008, -3/+27Linux vs. Android vs. OS X mobile should be enough to make most fanboy's heads explode.
- Veni_Vidi_Vici, on 01/06/2008, -5/+29To the Apple Fanboys who pulled an all-nighter to get the iPhone: prepare to suck it. Open source will win. Whether it's the fact that openmoko gives you screwdrivers to open their all open source phone, or google rolling out andriod, apple will have to change their approach.
- TWGMichael, on 01/06/2008, -0/+16Has it occurred to no one that you'll be able to run a tweaked Android/Google on the OpenMoko? This is a hardware platform, with provided starter software. The idea is also open hardware. Use what flavor you want.
- jasmus, on 01/06/2008, -1/+16Isn't the market for most Apple products the people who don't want to know what goes on inside, but just wants a consistent, easy to use interface? How would giving them a screwdriver help them have a better experience. In my opinion, these are two very different markets. The only iPhone users this may steal are the ones jailbreaking and hacking the iPhone.
- craigyjack, on 01/06/2008, -0/+10like HouseFan said: Openmoko vs. Android vs. OS X mobile. openmoko and andriod are both linux-based.
in the broader scheme: Linux vs. OS X mobile vs. Windows mobile vs. Blackberry i would say - schestowitz, on 01/06/2008, -6/+16Look at the licesning. OpenMoko is still a level above Google's Android. For some, this may not matter. Also, OpenMoko comes from a family business, not a multi-billion-dollar company. It's up to you really, but OpenMoko shouts out "development community" much louder.
- mjpatey, on 01/06/2008, -0/+8I love the OpenMoko project. I almost wish Google hadn't gotten into Android so quickly, to give OpenMoko some time to develop a following among more than just its initial niche market.
- skyshock1, on 01/06/2008, -1/+9This is very true, however, I wouldn't discount the amount of developers that want the prestige of making that "killer app for the Google phone." .... and the 10 million dollar prize.
- inactive, on 01/06/2008, -1/+8So the term 'developer preview' really has some meaning, huh?
- PRlME, on 01/06/2008, -0/+6your reviewing a dev-kit jeez your an idiot
- craigyjack, on 01/06/2008, -0/+5Actually, 10 Million dollars is the total money Google is going to give out to developers. "In the Android Developer Challenge I, the 50 most promising entries received by March 3 will each receive a $25,000 award to fund further development. Those selected will then be eligible for even greater recognition via ten $275,000 awards and ten $100,000 awards." But $275k for the top 10 is still very very nice :)
- islingt0ner, on 01/06/2008, -0/+4Phones are just as cool as the network they are attached to. When is the last time a cool phone like this was allowed to connect to the Verizon CDMA ?
- grakker, on 01/06/2008, -1/+5I've been waiting for the openmoko. Seriously. I've put off buying my next phone for them. The web sites suck ass for openmoko. They were supposed to release the consumer version in December. I looked in December, but couldn't even find anything saying the date was pushed back. Then yesterday I saw that they were going to update their ***** and release the consumer version the Spring.
WTF? Seriously I'm so tired of this. I appreciate Linux. I've been using it exclusively on my desktop since '98. I know how to code. I really appreciate the political implications of the GPL.
Given that, this whole OpenMoko thing is just pissing me off. - cldershem, on 01/06/2008, -1/+5how many times can the same story from a different blog make the front page this week? i'm guessing 8 times.
- ha1f, on 01/06/2008, -0/+3Base is $450, advanced is $550, and they were originally putting the price at $600.
period? - ronmexico, on 01/06/2008, -0/+3If you had one you'd know why, the iPhone, despite your desire to have it fail, is a great phone.
- inactive, on 01/06/2008, -1/+4No.
There is no Linux vs Android.
Android is a software stack for mobile devices that includes an operating system, middleware and key applications. This early look at the Android SDK provides the tools and APIs necessary to begin developing applications on the Android platform using the Java programming language.
Android relies on Linux version 2.6 for core system services such as security, memory management, process management, network stack, and driver model. The kernel also acts as an abstraction layer between the hardware and the rest of the software stack.
http://code.google.com/android/what-is-android.htm ... - Zap2, on 01/06/2008, -0/+3Maybe everyone on Digg...but not everyone in the real world.
- inactive, on 01/06/2008, -0/+2In the real world, nobody gives a ***** about open source. People (normal people) buy what they want or need, and the iPhone has sold millions of units because it's something people want and need. The vast majority of iPhone users for example don't care about custom apps or bricking or "freedom" or any of that. Otherwise it simply would not sell, period.
If this phone fulfills those needs, then it will "win" and Apple will "suck it". But until then, I suggest you keep your enthusiasm - or at least your annoying attitude - in check. - h0zae, on 01/06/2008, -0/+2hopefully they will announce that it can make calls with all sims and is NOW quad band...
- skunksmellnice, on 01/06/2008, -8/+10that's pretty sweet, but I'm still going to sit tight for android
- evil-doer, on 01/06/2008, -2/+4its 450, period.
not 450-600 - directrix13, on 01/06/2008, -0/+2Android ONLY uses Linux because its a free portable platform, and then they just abstract away an even higher level developer visible platform. You could almost say its not running Linux and nobody would know because you are programming to the Android Java abstraction. Linux is itself a platform and if you ask me, Google pulled a major stupid by requiring devs to code to their platform instead of just picking a best of breed set of libs and integrating them and offering a native API. Of course I retract that statement if they offer direct access to the underlying Linux platform somehow.
- Peepsalot, on 01/06/2008, -0/+2“mobile phones, currently closed and self limited, will rival broadband computers. When based on Open standards, they will deliver ubiquitous computing and vanish.”
Am I the only one left scratching his head at this statement? - craigyjack, on 01/06/2008, -0/+2Actually > it is a software platform. from openmoko home page :"OpenMoko is a GNU / Linux based open software development platform. Developers have full access to OpenMoko source and they can tailor their implementations to underlying hardware platforms." They also have their own hardware platform (their phone), but Openmoko could be run on other hardware platforms just like you stated that Android can be run on other hardware platforms including openmoko's hardware. and calling it starter software is dumb > Openmoko is just as full-fledged as Android will be > they are full software platforms.
"OpenMoko uses software with a tireless history of success and stability, such as the Linux kernel, the GNU C library, the X window system, and the GTK+ toolkit, to name only a few.
OpenMoko is Mobile FOSS. All this power is neatly bundled into the OpenMoko distribution which is based on OpenEmbedded, a meta-distribution containing more than 1,500 packages." - FuzzyCat, on 01/06/2008, -0/+1
Well, only in that Android is *NOT* open source - Google say parts of it 'will be in the future' but ... well... there's a lot of future to go. - EdwardsNH, on 01/07/2008, -0/+1Verizon will be opening up their network to "Non-Verizon" phones later this year.
Oh and Zap, they are also coverting to GSM in the next couple of years.
Do a search on arstechica for Verizon - PRlME, on 01/06/2008, -1/+2"That’s a slap in the face for open source competitor Google Android,"
Be careful what you say, words like that might come back to haunt you. - inactive, on 01/06/2008, -0/+1Agreed, take the GP2X for example, the development community is amazing and has done great things with that device. The openmoko have some improvements over the GP2X hardware, I can't even imagine what will happen when some hackers put their hands on it :)
- Zap2, on 01/06/2008, -0/+1Well Since CMDA sucks...I guess its good this phone is GSM
- rockmoviewriter, on 01/07/2008, -0/+1The OpenMoko will be as popular as the Atari Lynx. Linux people are funny.
- Kazrog, on 01/06/2008, -0/+1I can't wait for an OpenMoko phone. This will be such a killer platform!
- irabinovitch, on 01/06/2008, -0/+1OpenMoko will be at SCALE in February if you're interested in seeing one of these in person.
http://www.socallinuxexpo.org - UKsHaDoW, on 01/06/2008, -0/+1Black and grey, you mean like apple?
- smurf22, on 01/06/2008, -1/+1Although I love the idea and hardware of the openmoko I hate the design. The one little thing that ticks at me is the little hole at the bottom of it.
- HarryTruman, on 01/06/2008, -1/+1Yes.
- Gogogo111, on 01/06/2008, -2/+2Double negative.
- maheshexp, on 01/06/2008, -1/+0Come on folks...My head blows now...how many open standards on mobile...
Linux mobi platform have a great chance of reach but Google Android is not less for it.
But Linux mobi can't be graded less...as Google's one more OpenSource / Common platform for the Social sites is not gaining much fame...
So now it's a war on platforms ...similar to Blu-ray vs HD...sure consumer's head gonna roll off...
Best if some W3C kind of organization come up for Mobile technologies too... - ha1f, on 01/06/2008, -3/+2I'm sitting tight because $450 - $600 (according to the mailing lists) for a phone is just too much. Maybe I can win some money from Google, THEN buy this thing...
- Jareth86, on 01/06/2008, -2/+1As great as the product is, the GUI is ugly as all hell.
Orange black and grey? Seriously? - craigyjack, on 01/06/2008, -3/+1At least Apple will have to stop being a douche and allow applications on freaking mobile computer. and developers to develop with a real API for the OS. its stupid that Apple doesn't allow apps to be added to their mobile computer. wth
- craigyjack, on 01/06/2008, -4/+1That sucks, hopefully it will up to par sometime. I hope developers give it attention and not just go for Android.
- LUCCHINA, on 01/06/2008, -4/+1Cool...
- inactive, on 01/06/2008, -4/+1You mean almost everybody?
- Lnet, on 01/06/2008, -8/+2I dont want no linux on my telephone!
- mdweezer, on 01/06/2008, -10/+4Someone brought an OpenMoko Neo development kit to a recent BarCamp. Not even close to being ready for anything mainstream. Dialing from a command line (there is a GUI, but poor), poor power management and just not that impressive in person for the cost.
Make it $100 and maybe you've got something, but at its current state where it's constantly crashing and only lasting an hour or two on a battery charge it is no where ready for prime time.
iPhone FTW in this situation... Side by side was no comparison.
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