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- 4DFX, on 10/11/2007, -1/+17There you go you lazy bastard: http://kahvipapu.com/blog/2007/06/16/linux-gaming-part-one-first-person-shooters/
- lowerlogic, on 10/11/2007, -0/+13I hope Blizzard makes a Linux version of Starcraft 2, or at least makes the windows version wine-friendly.
- YokoZar, on 10/11/2007, -0/+12The author loses points for citing Warcraft 3 and Cedega and not even mentioning that it works fine in Wine. There's no need to pay for Cedega at all.
Wine even supports Warcraft 3's bizarre copy protection method. - Haydio, on 10/11/2007, -9/+20Buried for playing AA
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12Click on the article. A link to part one is literally in the first two words.
- atdigg, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9BTW, Starcraft runs great under Wine...
- opes, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8Yes it has sound, but its super hard to win.
I tried the game for a good month.
Either I really suck, or its impossible. - mastastealth, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7Globulation is definitely an interesting strategy game worth checking out. Nice graphics, fairly simple gameplay, and easy to learn with that great tutorial they have.
I wish the article would stop mentioning Cedega so much, as I'm pretty sure vanilla WINE can run all of its game just as well, and Cedega just isn't helping and contributing back to the WINE team anymore. Support the open-source program if you're already advertising the open-source games...
Also, I believe TA Spring has a linux client now too: http://taspring.clan-sy.com/ - geminitojanus, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6http://www.google.com/search?q=wow+on+linux
- cptn_cardboard, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6I dont mean to linkspam, but http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=1922
I havent tried installing wow (I have a life,) but Ive heard its one of the common games people play on linux. - SamKellett, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7I agree. I have Medieval 2: Total War, Civlization 4, Company of Heroes and Command & Conquer 3 on XP with space for Starcraft 2 and Spore.
Linux kicks ass in many many areas, but it's still a shame to see that games just aren't a big priority for the system. - HornyFox, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5You don't seem to know the purpose of an OS.
- LocDawg, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6@ wycheck89yo
Actually, linux is for world domination. - muffinmanpoo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4No problem.
- knobtwiddler, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6sorry
- ZenMasterJG, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I've even seen people get better framerates under Wine then on Windows...
- 1053r, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Dont forget Spring! It's totally free, totally open source, and almost mature! It is based upon the Cavedog classic, Total Annihilation, although the gameplay in the most popular mods is more comparable to Supreme Commander, as are the graphics and physics. The engine and game itself work well for Linux, and there are even packaged versions of them available (although you might have to ask on the forums). For a lobby to find online games, one can either use the windows lobby under wine (but the game itself is a linux executable), or there are several projects to build cross platform and native lobby clients. As of this writing, the most mature linux client will let you join a battle, so I would say the game is very much ready for prime time.
http://spring.clan-sy.com/
The only real downside to this game is the steep learning curve. Expect to spend a long time to truly master it. - geminitojanus, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3There's no reason to believe it won't be fairly Wine-friendly; Blizzard uses a lot of tactics to get around using Windows APIs, so most (all?) of the support code necessary to run it should already be in Wine. This doesn't mean it'll be the world's fastest, but it should be more than sufficient to play. See Warcraft 3/WoW with respect to Wine.
- SeattleGaucho, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3It does, but fortunately it's now turned off by default. It can be really annoying.
To opes, on the website there are a couple of playing guides. Follow their general advice and you'll find your style. Still, it keeps being one (if not the one) hardest RTS games I've played. - Hermmunster, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3It would be advisable that companies write to an API that is global and open rather than proprietary and closed to all but one platform, even if that platform is dominant. The DirectX API under Windows Vista is a locking mechanism (for that matter under any version of Windows). Microsoft could implement DX10 under XP but it doesn't want to because they want to get you on Vista--clearly, that's a perfect example of locking you into a platform.
Writing for OpenGL would be the best idea for most developers. There are some very kick ass games out there for OpenGL. Considering that some of the super spectacular games are OpenGL one would most definitely realize that it isn't some crude implementation which harbors only the most stalwart. OpenGL is very viable as a gaming API. It works under Windows XP (they discontinued support of it under Vista--I'm sure we all know why), and prior versions of Windows. It works on the Macintosh and under most variants of Linux.
Steve Jobs during a recent presentation stated that just about 20 million users are on OSX in some version or the other. Mark Shuttleworth of Ubuntu considers there to be at least 20 million Ubuntu users. Add to that the 10s of millions using other variants of Linux and you have a very viable target audience for gaming. I'd venture that worldwide there are possibly around 100 million Linux users that could and would be willing to pay for commercial games with native Linux clients. I would buy just about any commercial game that has a native Linux client. I understand that close source products aren't going to disappear and that gaming is one of those that demands secrets in the technology used in coding the games. I also believe there's no problem with closed proprietary software being sold for Linux users. I DO NOT believe that they should be allowed to use the SOURCE CODE from Linux in their clients without giving back the changes, but I don't have a problem with them using open source binaries in order to run their software.
I'm hoping I'm right when I believe there's a native Linux client for Enemy Territory:Quake Wars. I would love to play that under Linux. If it is not released under Linux I probably won't purchase the game. Right now I have ET (a free game), UT2003/2004, Quake 4, Neverwinter Nights (and a couple others) that run natively under Linux.
Gaming under Linux would trigger changes the whole landscape of computing. If every gaming development house were to begin to write games for Linux with native Linux client binaries we'd see a growth in the market like you've never seen before. If you consider number of Windows users at the time of Windows 3.x and then the number of Windows 95 users and even Windows 98 and then consider the software being developed for them during that time, you'd see that Linux has a significantly larger target audience than those platforms had for gaming developers. - Dazjae, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Linux is going to kick Microsoft a---. And thankfully so.
Ubuntu only needs to prettify itself, and it will catch even more eyes.
The Opensource revolution is a beautiful thing. - flashingcurser, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3oops better link for bind: http://dns.measurement-factory.com/surveys/200608.html
(its about 90% 2005) - deathguppie, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2The article mentions that Glest is only available for Linux in source code. That is simply not true.
http://www.liflg.org/?catid=6&gameid=58
Ps.. it's a really addictive game as well.. :) - syowr, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Um I have not had any version of windows installed for at least 5 years now... and I have a lvl 70 Warrior and Lock as well as a bajillion alts... been playing since beta on linux. Wine, Cedega, Crossover... etc all work fine for WoW.
I think its time you went MS free like you claim.
Ill check later to see if you reply... I have a Kara run to tank. - deathguppie, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I looked into Spring as the base for my new RTS game I am working on in my spare time. The biggest problem for me was exporting characters, and animations. Either documentation isn't there or it really is buried well.
I ended up using Glest as a base though it is really going to need some code work...
... more on the game as it develops.. - flashingcurser, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3@dkoon
85% of ISP's use BIND: http://www.isp-planet.com/technology/2002/dns_server.html
60% of the web uses Apache (ok only 58%) : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_web_serve
80% of ISP's (and majority of fortune 100) use Sendmail: http://www.techweb.com/internet/story/TWB19981204S0010 (the rest of isp's use qmail, or postfix)
I guess you're right, nobody goes to work and uses *nix operating systems.... - jonask84, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2How could they forget OpenTTD!
It's just about the only game I've even seen linux people actually play. - moman, on 10/11/2007, -3/+5Guys you forget that Linux is the youngest of the three (windows, macosx, linux). The computer industry, like every other industry, is still subject to the supply / demand laws that govern the free market. As the Linux desktop market share increases, we will see more native-driver support and games developed for the system (among the others). Just give it a little time and pitch it to everyone you know
Oh and BTW, completely random question, but does anyone know any space RTS games for Linux? Something like the Homeworld games or Star Wars Empire At War (the space parts). I really like those types of games - atdigg, on 10/11/2007, -3/+4I think I prefer to play Civ 1 in Dosbox
- justinjacobs, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1One that I didn't notice on this list is BosWars. It's open source, and available for Linux, BSD, Mac OSX, and Windows.
http://www.boswars.org/
And Ubuntu DEBs here:
http://ubuntusoftware.info/ubuntu_games/bos_wars.html - mydave, on 08/02/2008, -0/+0I like strategy games a lot. from were I can download all?
http://www.trgovinca.org
http://sooslic.com/?id=531
http://auk.kg/forum/index.php?board=1 - OrangeTide, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Linux has had Xconq since day 1. What other strategy game do you need?
Xconq was released roughly the same time as MS-DOS 3.3 was. It was the first widely used multiplayer game for X11. - dreamserpent, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0they missed dominions 3 - one of the best strategy games that spans windows/mac/linux
- joos13, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0great article, especially for new linux poeple who are gamers. and thanks for mentioning which games actually do work in wine
- daimoni, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Okay, thanks for the heads up, but I couldn't find that info from the Glest homepage.
- dehvknull, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Sadly, I can't play any of the 3d games until I get my new computer, which will probably have a Nvidia card instead of an ATI card like in my current computer, with its proprietary drivers that make Firefox crash. Otherwise, this is a very interesting list, and I will look at it again after that. Battle for Wesnoth pwns.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2My bootloader has 2 options: Linux and Warcraft. I wouldn't even have windows if I could play my WoW on Linux. I dont' see it happening, but if Blizz would make Linux versions of their games, my computers would be be M.S. free.
- opes, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2mleaman
Hey retard, you realize that game is a webbased game right? You can play it on any machine with java installed. - ptFoe, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2Does FreeCiv have sound yet?
- dehvknull, on 10/11/2007, -3/+0"Steve Jobs during a recent presentation stated that just about 20 million users are on OSX in some version or the other. Mark Shuttleworth of Ubuntu considers there to be at least 20 million Ubuntu users. Add to that the 10s of millions using other variants of Linux and you have a very viable target audience for gaming. I'd venture that worldwide there are possibly around 100 million Linux users that could and would be willing to pay for commercial games with native Linux clients. I would buy just about any commercial game that has a native Linux client. I understand that close source products aren't going to disappear and that gaming is one of those that demands secrets in the technology used in coding the games. I also believe there's no problem with closed proprietary software being sold for Linux users. I DO NOT believe that they should be allowed to use the SOURCE CODE from Linux in their clients without giving back the changes, but I don't have a problem with them using open source binaries in order to run their software."
That's were the GPL comes in, since it protects the authors of proprietary software from stealing Free Software code. Proprietary software in general on GNU/Linux is a bad thing since it takes away our freedom, but it can be the best temporary solution (drivers). - mleaman, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1DOS!? gasp!
- uncleLeo, on 10/11/2007, -15/+9before you digg me down - i'm not trying to be a jerk, i'm just making an observation:
isn't it sad that these are the premier strategy games for linux?
don't get me wrong, i luse linux on a daily basis as a desktop system - but not for playing games...that's what a wii/ps3/360 is for! - mleaman, on 10/11/2007, -7/+1What about Bang!Howdy? http://www.banghowdy.com/
- dkoon, on 10/11/2007, -9/+2@wycheck89yo
"Everything has its place: Macs are for publishing (music, art, video), Linux runs the internet and most geek's home networks, Windows is for videogames."
What are you smoking? Windows can do all of those easily plus more, in last 15+ years 93% of the computer world uses Windows at work & at home. WTF do you think they were doing? just playing video games? or the 93% of computer users are all clueless, it was the 7% of you guys running the world? - bigfatdummy, on 10/11/2007, -15/+8Thanks I always appreciate help finding games for Linux.
I play a FPS (Americas Army) on Linux and have zero problems with it. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -13/+4Everything has its place: Macs are for publishing (music, art, video), Linux runs the internet and most geek's home networks, Windows is for videogames.
I thought everybody knew that by now. - jtbndy, on 10/11/2007, -11/+1Despite whatever these articles say, Linux is not a gaming OS. Anyone wanting to play any half way current games uses Windows.
- Craga89, on 10/11/2007, -24/+5I am a lazy bastard. Please point me towards part 1 =).
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