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- inactive, on 04/26/2009, -0/+25 I don't think the greedy beast will ever sink into oblivion.. I do think that yhey are no longer going to have things go their way as easily as they have in the past.
As long as they don't mess with Linux,which I use,I'm happy. - Bicep, on 04/26/2009, -12/+36This article describes some ideas for what it would take for Redmond to make a comeback. More importantly, this article outlines the reasons I believe that GNU/Linux and FOSS will continue to batter the greedy beast into oblivion, thus ultimately becoming the predominant OS of choice. Freedom loving it. Right on brother.
- FlyingCaveman, on 04/27/2009, -10/+27I think Microsoft would have been better off if they'd came out with a lite version of XP for gamers, and promoted the XP64 bit before ever showing us Vista or Windows7.
Xubuntu w/ 256mb on a crappy netbook w/ 900mhz celeron w/ no L2 cache is running better than any of my faster gaming computers. Microsoft has to really pull a rabbit out of their hat to impress me. - drunkenoaf, on 04/27/2009, -2/+15I think Microsoft have a big problem in that Netbook Windows XP licences sell for far less $$$ than a nice new copy of Vista... or 7, when it comes out.
That's hurting their bottom line immensely. - FlyingCaveman, on 04/27/2009, -0/+12If the goal of Microsoft is to require you to buy a quad core cpu to continue browsing the web and checking your e-mail, then they are doing a great job.
- ethana2, on 04/27/2009, -0/+12I'm still just excited about Ubuntu 9.10 vs. MacOS 10.6 vs. Windows 7.
2010 is going to be a fricking awesome year. - creepermclurker, on 04/27/2009, -1/+12Oliver Stone talks about how that Gecko line has become a favorite of people who think they understand capitalism but really don't. It was meant to let us know how screwed up Gecko was and what a self-important, rationalizing prick he had become. But people who can only understand complicated issues in overly simplified bites latch on to it. Similar to how Norman Lear (All in the Family) talks about the horror they all felt when they understood that a great many of Archie Bunker's fans agreed with him and failed to see the character as a mean little, racist, sexist, jackass as he was written.
Regarding your assertion that the good ol' American 'greed' strategy brought us to 25% of the world's GPD I think you need to read a book. Or at the very least turn on your T.V. and witness what our dependence on borrowing money from foreign countries has done to us.
Your 'greed' you bow to did not make us wealthy, it did exactly what you would expect. It made us bullies and debtors.
If you find that offensive, well, read a book. - 1x253, on 04/27/2009, -3/+13I think people who remember the whole Netscape thing and the anti-trust era douchebaggery are going to have a hard time believing that MS is just some benign organization simply conducting business. That (the Netscape/IE thing) was not competition, that was corrupt.
What's more, I can't load my Office '97 (and lot's of other perfectly fine older software) onto my XP. I'm satisfied with '97 and yet a barrier has been CREATED not for any other reason than greed. That does not help ME, the consumer, in any way.
I love linux, because it doesn't insult my intelligence with the douchebaggy ***** that MS does. - Taiyoryu, on 04/27/2009, -0/+10There's a difference between greed and economic self-interest. Greed is taking economic self-interest to a detrimental extreme to the point that you harm yourself, your customers, and your industry.
- lewkus, on 04/27/2009, -12/+21Microsoft reminds me of an 80's #1 chart busting pop singer that keeps trying to release and promote new singles with no success.
We like what you did for computing back then, you made your money now bugger off into obscurity like everyone else. - benstudley, on 04/27/2009, -9/+17I'd switch to linux on my netbook (eee pc 1000ha) if wireless would work well without me having to do anything... (like it does with Windows 7.) I spent too many hours trying to get it to work on Ubuntu (the last 2 releases) with the best result being a horribly slow connection that wouldn't work after coming out of sleep or hibernation.
- Bicep, on 04/27/2009, -1/+9I'll believe it when I see it. Oh, and It should have been this way from the first friggin release! Anybody who is a self-respecting technical professional should be absolutely pissed that a company would insult the world in such a way as to create web services that only works with one fuktarded web browser. Drop this crap! Give your business to a company that's worthy of it. Down, down with non-open-web-standards-following, vendor-lockin-seeking, POS companies that are trying to BREAK the Internet with their tunnel-visioned products.
- paulsmith288, on 04/27/2009, -0/+8"Evidentally you're being a dumb fanboy if you think Windows 7 is 'bloatware'. It performs far better than XP in tests."
Its not out yet. Lots COULD change. (not will , could)
Original comment still valid. If a netbook costs $100 - no way is a $150 windows 7 tax going to sell well on it.
Even if MS force the vendors to increase their linux prices to make it seem more competitive.....(they will try that no doubt). - lemur, on 04/27/2009, -0/+8There once was a time when IBM was an unstoppable monster that monopolized the market. They still exist and are quite a successful business.
- 007brendan, on 04/27/2009, -3/+10Worst advice ever.
1. Hurry up and push Windows 7 to release. Hmmm... wasn't a premature, buggy release the main problem with Vista?
2. Move the office suite online. The majority of MS office users are businesses; businesses that have sensitive, proprietary data. They will NEVER make the move to online.
3. Buy something, like Adobe or Sun, to either gain a hand in open source, or create an unstoppable office suite. Taking over OpenOffice is a conflict of interest, either they would kill MS Office, or they would let it stagnate and another group would take it over, and they would be in the same situation they are now. - wigren, on 04/27/2009, -3/+9Windows doesn't provide that either. Game developers provide that.
- nyxerebos, on 04/27/2009, -3/+9That, and I think we've reached a kind of saturation point. Gamers aside, one does not need an entry-level PC for most of what is done with computer. 900Mhz and an efficient operating system are fine for web surfing, office, email, etc. Netbooks and low-end PCs need a simple, efficient OS, and not bloatware like Win 7.
There may be demand for XP (or a free XP clone like Red Flag) for some time to come. - jamesmcm, on 04/27/2009, -1/+6There is no 'goal' of GNU/Linux, it runs on servers, supercomputers, desktops and netbooks. But why have unnecessary bloat? At least on GNU/Linux you can choose to disable Compiz, run different DE's etc.
- Taiyoryu, on 04/27/2009, -2/+7Good for you. People buy what they want. Isn't freedom of choice great?
- doctechnical, on 04/27/2009, -9/+14Get a load of this guy's mug - truly a face made for journalism. "Click on photo to enlarge" - no. No, I don't think so.
- paulsmith288, on 04/27/2009, -1/+6silverlight is not cross platform.
Moonlight (crossplatform) != silverlight. - 1x253, on 04/27/2009, -2/+7I think Slade was making a joke, thus the "as often as possible" and "I swear" bits.
- whatisthisaol, on 04/27/2009, -0/+5Don't worry about getting a "shrunk down version" unless you did it just to save some disk space. I have the official build of Windows 7 installed on my Dell mini 9 and it runs perfectly.
- ratrip, on 04/27/2009, -0/+5*** I am planning on spending $300-350 on a machine with XP on it. Not Linux. Note, not Linux. ***
And this affects me how? I think we can say that nobody on this thread really cares what poison you pick to surf the web... - inactive, on 04/27/2009, -4/+8Don't forget registry cleaner and malware protection.
- miwingman, on 04/27/2009, -0/+4Apparently Netbooks are a bigger threat to MSFT then a global depression.
- jellygraph, on 04/27/2009, -1/+5Actually, I would be more than happy to wave goodbye to Microsoft. I used to be a fan, but I thought the stench was normal for everyone... until I tried other operating systems and realized it was Windows that stinks.
- paulsmith288, on 04/27/2009, -0/+4wintel alliance was pushing us that way for years.......
- 2matrix, on 04/27/2009, -1/+5I used to be of the same mindset, so I understand your concerns and they are legitamte, but as someone who runs both Windows and Linux (Ubuntu), let me tell you the gap is small and IMHO now moving in favor of Linux as opposed to Windows.
Try explaining to a user how to burn an ISO image under windows - that person needs to download software, install it and go through the process of creating a CD - in Ubuntu you simply right click on the ISO and burn it. I can think of many other examples where Ubuntu is more friendly and offers a more robust feature set. Of course certain products don't run under linux and I understand this is a caveat for many (I run them in Virtualbox to get by for now), but the quality and selection of applications is growing and for the first time in 20 years I am now switching completely over to Linux after being a die heard Microsoft fan boy - the benefits far outweigh the negatives. - cannonball, on 04/27/2009, -2/+6These comments suck.
- 1x253, on 04/27/2009, -1/+4
"Want"?
Most people don't even know that a choice exists. Most people don't even know that you can buy a computer without Windoze on it. "Want" is the wrong word and perception.
"Choice"?
You mean like the "choice" that once existed between IE and Netscape browser? - FyberOptic, on 04/27/2009, -4/+7Buried. This has nothing to do with Microsoft's lost revenue. Netbooks are not replacing desktops or laptops, they just supplement them. If anything, they'd make Microsoft more money. They lost revenue due to a combination of Vista not selling as well as they'd hoped, combined with a poor economy.
Clearly my ultimate deductive skills of the obvious should warrant me this guy's Washington Times job. - ratrip, on 04/27/2009, -3/+6Don't forget to pay Microsoft, so you can get rid of Windows 7 Starter Edition. 3 Apps at a time is too crappy...
- JosedeNoche, on 04/28/2009, -0/+3in time...Microsoft will die slowly, most of people had enough with bugs and viruses in their PC, including Netbooks
- GeyserShitdick, on 04/28/2009, -0/+3"Saying that a 900Mhz 256MB Linux-based machine would run, say, Crysis, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Clear Sky or any other vaguely modern game on a halfway decent gaming computer is just clearly talking garbage."
That is not within a hundred miles of what he actually said, foolio. - MattBD, on 04/27/2009, -1/+4Have you had any success with either Easy Peasy or Ubuntu Netbook Remix? I've heard that UNR in particular does well on Eee 1000 series. I've got UNR installed on my Eee 700 2G Surf on an SD card alongside the default Xandros and that works well.
I've also had quite good results with Sidux, but that's a little more technical. - miwingman, on 04/27/2009, -6/+8$62 billion a year in revenue and a 28% profit margin ... that is not successful enough for you?
Let's see Red Hat has revenues of $650 million.
You need to run diagnostics on your arthimetic/logic unit. - WhiskeyLemur, on 06/30/2009, -0/+2FairDinkum - be that as it may, the fact remains that, as it stands right now, Lunix (to me) isn't worth the time investment required. That's precisely my point: part of what I pay for when I buy Windows along with my machine is exactly what you're talking about it - I don't have to worry about installing it.
My husband did get one of the older Ubunti distros set up about a year ago, and I gave it what I considered to be a fair shot. My overall impression was that I ran into problems at every step - getting it to talk to our wireless router took time, and for gods-only-know what reason, adding new fonts to OpenOffice made us lose that net connection almost irretrievably. After listening my husband cuss like a sailor every free minute of the day, both of us said "screw this" and went back to Windows. Both of us have busy work schedules, and the return (again, to us) is simply not worth the time required. - benstudley, on 04/27/2009, -0/+2UNR is what I tried the last time. The 9.04 variant. The wireless driver installs fine, but performance is horrible. Just pinging the gateway results in tons of dropped packets and horrible response times. I even tried the restricted driver and tried ndiswrapper all with bad results. Before the UNR, I tried Linux Mint 6 with the eee pc kernel from array.org. Same thing with that. I was really disappointed because I liked them both. But no wi-fi is a deal breaker for me.
I didn't try Easy Peasy. - ratrip, on 04/27/2009, -5/+7*** Plus, installing/uninstalling things via repositories & such was flaky as hell & didnt always work. Ended up borking the system a few times in the process. Bah. ***
PEBKAC. Repository based software management beats the meager excuse that MS calls software management. - Phate8263, on 04/27/2009, -1/+3I wanna see the javascript benchmarks that support your IE8 is faster claim. Last I checked it was almost an order of magnitude slower.
How's its acid 3 compliance... oh that great huh... - WhiskeyLemur, on 06/30/2009, -3/+5Linux is great if you have the knowledge to set it up and troubleshoot it - or the time to spend hours online searching for help. Windows is much lower-maintenance for the average user. If you hate it and can get everything you need from Linux, more power to you, but please understand that it's not accessible for everyone. The initial setup is the biggest hurdle, but even if you have someone help you past that, you will occasionally run into issues which a newbie cannot easily fix on his/her own.
Just my opinion - Vista isn't the Armageddon that many people make it out to be, but it's unquestionably a resource hog and comes bogged down with a ton of bloatware. At the same time, it's the most practical option for me even now that I'm in a non-gaming phase: I have neither the time nor the desire to wrestle with my computer to get it to do the most basic operations. I have neither the time nor the desire to fiddle with my OS - I just want it to work. I've been hearing good things about Windows 7 and will be more than happy to retire Vista in its favor, but for my purposes, and given my inclinations, I'm perfectly willing to sacrifice customization options for simplicity of usage.
If that makes me a Windows fangirl, so be it, I guess. - MrTea, on 04/27/2009, -0/+2Wasn't MS supposed to be the company that "pushes the envelope" with their apps?
What are they doing in netbooks? - munroe, on 04/27/2009, -0/+2Hell the latest release of Ubuntu got my proprietary idctouch Touch Screen working, which I had spent nearly a week trying to get working back in February.
Wireless worked on the first go. And this wasn't even an EeePC, it was a via ce260 variant. I think it was supposed to be a developer only netbook. - MattBD, on 04/27/2009, -0/+2Well, before Ubuntu started supporting netbooks Sidux was the best performance I got from any Linux distro. Wi-fi didn't work out of the box, but if you ran fw-detect it would tell you exactly what you needed to do to get the wi-fi working by installing the madwifi drivers. If you then installed these via Ethernet and rebooted it would work well.
However, Sidux is a bit tougher than Ubuntu. It's probably worth a try if you don't mind delving into the CLI a bit, but if you're a Linux newbie I would give it a miss. - 1x253, on 04/27/2009, -3/+5I have a machine that runs XP and another that runs Linux. Good luck with the XP crap, it's a lesser product than MS 2000 Pro (which I still run).
- talonh, on 04/27/2009, -1/+3Thanks man, we were all wondering what you were going to buy and how much you would spend. I'm glad you let us know because the suspense was starting to get to us all!
- ThinkFr33ly, on 04/27/2009, -0/+2Actually, there are plenty of comparisons between today and the Great Depression.
The big difference is that today we have saftey nets for people to make sure they can always have the basics of life. Food, shelter, etc. These are called Entitlement Programs (Social Security, for instance), and we inacted during and after the Great Depression.
Without these programs, we would see the exact same bread lines today as we did 80 years ago. In terms of business expenditures and descretionary spending, which are the two things that directly affect Microsoft's profits, you would be hard pressed to tell the difference. - GeyserShitdick, on 04/28/2009, -0/+2He looks like Steve Wozniak had a baby with a ham.
- Bicep, on 04/29/2009, -0/+2You must shop at OfficeDepot... Guess you haven't seen this http://digg.com/linux_unix/Linux_on_Netbook_a_fail ...
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