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- dryicezero, on 12/29/2007, -9/+61Being a long time Linux engineer who just bought a Mac for my significant other, I definitely understand why Linux and Mac are on top.
- ttfadia, on 12/29/2007, -5/+33Linux engineer, significant other, hah!
- ronmexico, on 12/29/2007, -0/+27No they doesn't.
- chris9902, on 12/29/2007, -14/+28They sure had Microsoft's hardware beat this year.... oh wait. Microsoft don't make computers.
- Lutremi, on 12/29/2007, -1/+15Josh Groban topping out 3 of the 4 lists for music? What is with Amazon's demographic?!
- superkendall, on 12/30/2007, -0/+12Microsoft. We don't make computers, we just make them slower.
- Teckla, on 12/29/2007, -5/+17Yes they do. The Xbox 360. Too bad the Xbox 360 is notoriously unreliable...
- demonsnake69, on 12/29/2007, -4/+16This is what I love about Digg.com -- the article is a list full of a bunch of things, but the submitter slanted the headline to aim it towards Mac and Linux only.
Buried as inaccurate. - falafelkiosken, on 12/29/2007, -0/+10Linus Torvalds is married, you know…
- rebelwoaclue, on 12/30/2007, -0/+10Why yes. I think the shoulder belt makes me look dead sexy.
My career is a professional land surveyor. I get to play with GPS, three-dimensional laser scanners and really sharp brush hooks in the field and three-dimensional modeling, GIS and CAD in the office. The forum I mentioned was on the AutoCAD boards. AutoCAD is stuck fast to the Microsoft nipple and I was questioning the long-term intelligence in doing so.
Now, I have to wonder what career you have that makes you want to try to put others down? Do you need a hug? - dondara, on 12/29/2007, -1/+11No he won't. Don't mislead the boy.
- niallabrown, on 12/29/2007, -2/+11This is not supprising. It will likely be the Everex Cloudbook with gOS on there next year along with others.
- schestowitz, on 12/29/2007, -10/+18You also ought to see these:
Intriguing Holiday Gifts
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2704,2236777,00.as ...
3 out of 4 run GNU/Linux
And this one:
Kindle, Eee PC top Amazon.com 'most wanted' list
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/11/22/eee_pc_ame ...
There are a few more articles like these which I saw in December. In appliances, it's very hard for something like Vista to compete on price. - rebelwoaclue, on 12/29/2007, -12/+20In a forum related to my career I argued that in five years, 2012, Microsoft will have lost the dominance of the computer market. I was predictable scoffed at and the target of many angry responses. "Fanboy" was freely thrown around even though I have been clear that I frequently use Windows, Mac, and Linux and they all have their strengths and weaknesses. News like this justifies my position and I actually have to wonder if giving the shift five years was not too conservative.
- harlowsmonkeys, on 12/29/2007, -1/+8I see that the bestselling product in health was a pedometer. Gotta be careful with pedometers. I bought one a while back, and got to wondering how it worked. So, my first thought was that there are probably people who are into pedometers, and they probably have websites devoted to them, and that's where I could find the information. So I started looking.
Thank God no coworker came in and asked "what are you doing?". I would have said, without thinking about it, "looking for some pedophile websites...I just got into that and want more information".
I never have found out what the correct word is for someone who likes pedometers. - motang, on 12/29/2007, -1/+8Awesome, really good to see Linux getting some attention from the mass market!
- MikeCerm, on 12/29/2007, -1/+7That's because the Apple TV sucks, and does require a computer, with iTunes, to work.
The Xbox 360 doesn't require any PC connection to play audio or video. It can stream as well as read data discs, and it supports more useful A/V formats than the Apple TV. It can play DVDs. Also, if you have a Media Center PC, it can do even more cool stuff.
The Apple TV is fine, if you live in an iTunes-only world. For normal people, the Xbox 360 is a much better choice, even if you never play games on it (which is something the Apple TV also can't do). - MacParrot, on 12/29/2007, -3/+9So you and they will stick with it?
I have no problem with Windows, but don't pretend that its the only viable solution. - jsp317, on 12/30/2007, -0/+5You would go to hp or dell and build your own?? Why don't you go to zip zoom fly or new egg and order your parts and truly build it your self? Then you know what you got.
- GMorgan, on 12/29/2007, -2/+7No it was probably ambitious. We always underestimate just how strong the forces of networking effects and sheer apathy are. Linux won't take over quickly unless it can run all Windows software and offer a killer advantage (something which is realistically impossible). In essence we are still in a war of attrition and will be 5 years from now. The good thing is Linux won't easily disappear thanks to the FOSS nature of it while Windows is absolutely certain to in time.
If we can take 1% a year for the next 5 years then that is steady progress of the kind people who want to replace Windows want. Of course in reality it will probably accelerate but 1% a year is enough that most of us will spend the majority of our lives with Linux being a market viable and important platform. - zeebo, on 12/29/2007, -0/+4>unless it can run all Windows software and offer a killer advantage
Well Wine is pretty good, but its not like virtualization software doesn't exist. It may not be good for games, but PC gaming is becoming more and more irrellivant as Microsoft continues to encourage developers to concentrate on the 360. As for 'Killer Advantage', running virtualized you have far less to worry about from a security standpoint.
I won't be surprised at all if in five years computers ship with Linux embedded on a flash chip on the motherboard providing a 'basic' environment. With Windows being extra for backwards compatibility. You turn on the computer, it comes right on, and lets you read your email, browse the web and do lots of other things as Windows comes up in the background. - Zippo, on 12/29/2007, -11/+15In short, people are sick of Windows and Vista is a flop.
- WiseWeasel, on 12/29/2007, -0/+4That's ignoring the shift to web-based applications and standards. Five years from now, Windows won't be needed to run business software, except possibly in the server room. All major corporate front end desktops will run Linux or other OSS, and most business apps will be web-based. All the new programming talent will be in web standards, typically built around LAMP (Linux, Apache, MySQL and PHP). There will be hold-outs in the small business market, but the meat of the corporate desktop market will be firmly in the OSS camp within that time.
- dondara, on 12/29/2007, -0/+4hehe, you clicked it. Dugg for the "grow up" whine
- supermanred, on 12/30/2007, -1/+5You get work done using Vista? You're a ***** liar.
- monikerd, on 12/29/2007, -2/+6Yeah it should, but the fact that it isn't shows redmont's failure. Welcome to the now.
- Macskeeball, on 12/30/2007, -0/+3Linux is a kernel, meaning the absolute technical core of an operating system. There are many operating systems (aka distributions) using the Linux kernel. Linux runs on simpler devices (internet appliances, wristwatches, iPods, cell phones, routers, PDAs), TiVo, PS3, desktops and laptops, and all the way up to high end servers. You can find Linux on all sorts of things, not just internet appliances. One distribution you can download is Ubuntu, but there are many others that can be found on Distrowatch.com
- Ryan2845, on 12/29/2007, -1/+4I think one reason for this is the low prices, here are the current bestsellers on amazon although I know this isn't representative of the entire year: http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/pc/ref=sv_pc_ ... Asus Eee for 399 and Nokia table for 219 are pretty cheap compared to regular computers, I think that sort of pricing is what it will take to get linux into more homes. Unfortunately you can see that Vista still dominates the current top 25..
- Thekirby45, on 12/29/2007, -1/+4Damn wii owned the video game section D: nice to see Linux getting some popularity
- Nimroy, on 12/30/2007, -0/+3Linux is now very nice and functional for home and business usage, hence the nice score.
I can just hope that good sales results of eee & dell do the 'magic' to hardware support.
Let the games begin :) - buckrogers1965, on 12/30/2007, -0/+3Yep. The most wanted desktop, portable, and hand held machines were all running Unix/Linux. 2007 was the year of Unix on the desktop. I think Linux on the desktop will take 4 years instead of the 2 that it took to capture 30% of the server markets. Expect to hear a huge outburst from MS and their lackeys in 2008 how Linux is not ready for the desktop even as it eats their lunch and doubles market share every year.
Nobody wants Vista, XP is end of life, Mac is too pricey, Linux is ready to step in just like it did in the server markets in the late 90's. - supermanred, on 12/30/2007, -0/+3A clean sweep for Unix based OSes.
- haydesigner, on 12/29/2007, -1/+4Enough already with stupid Rick Astley crap. It was not even funny once.
Grow up. Blocked. - random12345, on 11/16/2008, -3/+5Xbox 360 vs. AppleTV should be the only direct comparison- both are hardware and require no previous computer to use. People seem to overlook the AppleTV and just say it was a "hobby project".
- random12345, on 11/16/2008, -0/+2Its not only the demand for iTunes, but the 360's high flexibility in being able to be upgraded due to it being more software-based than hardware-based. Not to mention, the 360 does full HD and is pretty much a full media center. The AppleTV could easily achieve this, but Apple abandoned it for the most part.
- random12345, on 11/16/2008, -0/+2Microsoft makes computers? Dell makes software??!?!?!
- WiseWeasel, on 12/30/2007, -0/+2Legacy support / virtualization... I'd expect to see a few installations hanging around in most places, just not on the desktops...
- Macskeeball, on 12/30/2007, -0/+2I wasn't referring to default OS for either the iPod nor the PS3, but rather to the iPod Linux project and the side thing for the PS3 that you mentioned.
- superkendall, on 12/30/2007, -2/+4That joke is as old as it is outdated. Linux users get all the chicks now - seriously.
Geek is in, baby. And in a world gone mad with attempts at crazy technical controls like DRM, who does not want to bond with a knowledgeable guide to help them through life? - RemoteSojourner, on 12/30/2007, -0/+2Your sentence is incorrect, factually as well as grammatically.
Microsoft makes keyboard,mouse,webcams,Xbox360,Zune,etc.
"Don't" - benitojuarez, on 12/29/2007, -1/+3well thats the thing, a real "pc" enthusiast is going to build his or her own computer from parts, not buy prefab from dell or hp or gateway or any other oem. Im sure the same can be said of a good chunk of linux users.
- Dohko_Xar, on 12/30/2007, -0/+2well, it is cheaper to build your own system..
- superkendall, on 12/30/2007, -0/+1Five years may still be a little optimistic, companies use desktops for a long time. But newer companies rising up may switch much sooner to macs or Linux.
- brentinkc, on 12/29/2007, -2/+3Who?
- MozillaFirefox, on 12/30/2007, -0/+1I see what you mean. Too much..
- ghast, on 12/30/2007, -0/+1because apple controls the hardware it allows them to have much more cohesion between their hardware and software. Apple does not have to worry about supporting numerous hardware configurations, and this allows them to optimize the OS and make it more reliable.
And obviously apple makes its money off hardware and it would make no sense for them to allow OSX to run on non-apple hardware financially.
As to why do people by apple hardware, it's simple, some of us want computers that work with minimal fuss, apple happens to fill a niche for people who find OSX to be superior to the alternatives. - rockets, on 12/30/2007, -2/+3Dugg. ROFL but true
- wispygalaxy, on 12/30/2007, -1/+2I knew it was a Rick Roll just by looking how low you were dugg down.
- Kamujin, on 12/30/2007, -2/+3I get the most work done using Vista.
I have the most fun using Ubuntu.
I feel dirty after using my mac. (sorry the closed hardware, FreeBSD ripoff thing always comes to mind) - treyevans, on 12/30/2007, -2/+3Linux is now making computers???!?!?
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