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Linux XP releases international edition

linux-xp.com — Linux XP, originally released in Russia, just released an international english edition. Linux XP Desktop is a full-featured PC operating system like Windows but based on the stable and secure Linux platform.

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bruce89, on 10/12/2007, -2/+35Beats me why somebody would want to emulate the theme of another OS like that.
- itanshi, on 10/12/2007, -17/+5i tried out ubuntu, lots to like except for one thing
  
  the Dell Wireless Network detector is still the best i've seen and ubuntu has to be that good to be viable (i'm not done exploring it yet mind ya)
  
  this OS seems to have similar aspersions and i'd like to see soem more sharing of apps in the linux communities
- r2d7, on 10/12/2007, -31/+7Lots to like? When I tried it out I especially liked the bit where nobody bothered making a progress bar for when the OS is loading ... attention to detail like that gives me more time for my other hobby - impatience.
  
  It's good to see Ubuntu harnessing the power of petty jealousy that someone else made a linux easy enough for retards to use.
- tophfisher, on 10/12/2007, -7/+25r2d7 -
  
  Yeah... that XP progress bar that loops over and over is SO MUCH better! Idiot.
- r2d7, on 10/12/2007, -22/+6Movement is better than Ubuntu's "wtf is anything happening or has this frozen???" screen.
- Alex.w, on 10/12/2007, -7/+9r2d7, what does that progress bar in 2k/XP/Vista tell you, I mean apart from nothing?
  
  Its not based on how long it will take, but how much of the kernel and subsystem is loaded.. which mean's basicly nothing, it tells you nothing of WHEN it will be done. It will be done loading when the thing gets to the end, and when the thing gets to he end, it will be done loading.
  
  You don't know how much there is to load or how much has been loaded, where its going to be loaded from, nothing.
  
  It doesn't even tell you what its stuck on when it sticks, you just know its stuck.
  
  And as for the one in XP that isn't so much a progress bar as a blob that moves right over and over in a loop, is that really usefull to you?
  
  I know when booting Linux what stage its on, and how lng that will take.
- r2d7, on 10/12/2007, -15/+13It is a visual indication that something is happening. Ever wondered why there's an hourglass icon for mice? Splash screens for software? People like to know that something is happening.
  
  A static screen says nothing. A bar moving back and forth that means nothing, says something.
- donjaime, on 10/12/2007, -9/+6Thats a pretty stupid comment. The reason is obvious. Its in the frikkin name.
  
  If you want me to spell it out for you.... it's to make it easy for people accustomed to Windows to make the transition to linux.
- Alex.w, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I thought the scrolling text telling you exactly what its doing would have been a good indication that its doing something no? If you don't have that on your boot, enable it or press alt+right, or hit escape.
  
  For the few seconds its blank, does it really matter?
- Arramol, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8@r2d7 - When did you try this out? Ubuntu and Kubuntu both have had progress bars for as long as I've been using them.
- chenlevy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5They seem to duplicate not just the Look & Feel of WIndows XP, but the EULA as well: http://www.linux-xp.com/licensing/
- slashdotislame, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Running Linux with exactly the same user interface as Windows would be scary. It would mean making everything just as confusing and hard to find as it is in windows! strange, yet interesting...
- r2d7, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2It was about 4 or 5 days ago booting from a live cd iso
- millixaw, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I guess this is the OS equivalent to those Chinese PSP knock-offs.
- bruce89, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1r2d7, I assume it was an AMD64 build of Edgy, there is a bug where the splash screen segfaults on boot on AMD64 - https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/usplash/+bug/56587
XVampireX, on 10/12/2007, -76/+10Don't ever dare to compare the two, linux is in a different league, they (Windows users) are all sobs that deserve to die.
- gungaroo22, on 10/12/2007, -13/+23People deserve to die because they use the most popular, and easiest to obtain and install OS? They are SOBs because it is installed in almost every marketed computer?
  
  Dugg down.
- nahteecirp, on 10/12/2007, -9/+38If anyone deserves to die, its you >_>. Idiots like you arent helping the Linux community to grow.
- mississippiman, on 10/12/2007, -26/+4People like Gungaroo are the reason Linux users are considered to be elitist assholes. Good job for making us all look bad
- nahteecirp, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10mississippiman,
  Surely you meant XVampireX? If you meant it sarcastically, maybe you should of added a ;-) or something?
- mississippiman, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13lol my mistake
- naio21, on 10/12/2007, -9/+6XVampireX, you are the typical OSS fanatic that makes me - as a Windows user - hate everything OS related and blocks me for trying something different.
  
  Keep up the good work, moron!
- regeya, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4On behalf of alternative OS users everywhere, I think I speak for everyone when I say FOAD.
- hosiah, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Maybe it's a new kind of astroturfing.... pose as a Linux user, then act like a huge ass... yeah, that'll scare em away!
- anjinash, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@XVampireX: A little harsh, are we? Seriously dude, you need therapy before you hurt somebody. If death is your idea of how to deal with people who don't share your preference of operating systems, you have some SERIOUS issues. Chill out man, it's just software. Do you want to kill people who don't have the same religion or skin color as you do as well? How about what their cola choices are or type of shoes they buy?
  
  I can't beleive people like you still exist.
mglukhovsky, on 10/12/2007, -3/+31Nothing brightens my day like a mature comment from a mature Digg user. Thanks, XVampireX!

Yours truly,
Sarcasm and Shame
thejon, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10I think people are missing the big picture..... If there is a Linux gui that resembles xp, would that not make a transition from Microsoft to this particular distro that much easier?
- slashdotislame, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4It would, but anyone who is scared of moving to a new OS because of the layout is not really going to be happy when every single website and program they download from the interweb fails to run on their machine.
  
  They can't tell the difference between a PC and a Mac.
  
  Now you throw in Linux and tell them they can only download programs through Synaptic, or Apt-Get or .deb installs or something else that makes their eyes glaze over as they smile and nod sympathetically with the nerd in front of them.
nahteecirp, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7If you are going to call it Linux XP, you could at least try and make it look more like XP, instead of 98.
- championchap, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3fully agreed
  its 98, but with a green start button
knubie, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11I've been looking for something like this for my mother. She's only known Windows. I was tempted to use Xandros or make Ubuntu look like Windows XP, but with Linux XP, there would be no retraining, and I doubt she would know the difference, so I could swap the OS without her knowing.

This may also be good in the corporate environment, people get upset when Microsoft Office is upgraded because the menus are different. Imagine what it would be like when trying to change an OS. When my work upgraded to Windows XP, they switched the XP start menu to classic to reduce the amount of training and support calls.
- liquilife, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Yeah, it's amazing isin't it? Most people just simply memorize how to get to a particular application or to accomplish something on a computer. You swap menu items around even and they get confused. I've trained hundreds of people who believe that if the icon is not on their desktop then it must be deleted from their computer. Oh yeah, did I mention these people were managers? Haha...
- bobsaccount, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4If I run a business, it's not a good thing to have to pay some employee (be they "dumb" or not) to sit snd wait for some IT tech (be they "dumb" or not) to show up and show them how to deal with a user interface.
  
  Is this understandable?
- radu79, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I am resonably good at Linux (as in, I know how to do the basic stuff), using it on and off for 8 years now.
  But what I don't like about Linux is the interface. I tried both KDE and Gnome, and I would really like to be able to make them look and feel like Windows. Especially the taskbar. This is what I am used to, and I think it is only normal to like what you are used to.
  Of course, I also don't like manually having to edit files in order to configure various aspects on how the OS behaves, and I would like to have GUIs for more configuration tools. How about a GUI over, say.. ndiswrapper?
- hosiah, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7@radu78
  
  Thank you for having the right attitude! :) Instead of slamming me for using the command line and being elitist, you just say "This is what I want." Many people usually want the same thing. If I could whip up a quick GUI frontend for everything I would, but I'm not that skilled yet. There are some tasks, no matter the program, that just aren't well suited to a GUI (piping batched jobs through sed, for instance). Keep looking for ndiswrapper front-end, one's bound to turn up.
  
  As for Windows-like interface, KDE tries and comes close. There's FVWM-95, used to be on Puppy Linux. But seriously, ReactOS is your solution, it's just not ready yet - they need help. That's GPLed just like Linux, but is being built from the ground up as a Windows-alike. I've tried it, and honestly didn't know the difference, but it's still got a lot of kinks to work out.
igutekunst, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Someone please send them some funds. Their servers could use it. . .
- redxii, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Please place all currency in the suction tubes.
- championchap, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3careful, they might get clogged!
twatwaffle, on 10/12/2007, -9/+2The movie Swordfish.

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stalefries, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7http://duggmirror.com/linux_unix/Linux_XP_releases_international_edition/

By the way, does anyone know what happened to the captchas?
- postitnote, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1A better question is, why aren't there any visible botspam ;). You can still get captchas if you enter in the wrong password.
- EmileVictor, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1On digg? I'm sure they're still there, but you have to do something rather out of the ordinary for them to start appearing.
naio21, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2Man, what a piece of crap: neither Linux nor Windows user experience.

XP my...
fallingfree, on 10/12/2007, -12/+1Stable and secure Linux platform???

OMG.
- stephenwq, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Your saying linux isnt stable? The OS that can run for over a year on a UPS with no downtime at all? When the best you'll get out of an average XP computer is a week?
  Then again, server 2003 can run for a long time too. But thats a server OS. Suprising that a linux desktop can too isnt it?
  
  Your saying linux isnt secure? The OS that has less that 100 known viruses, and doesnt even need an antivirus scanner, and can rely on a built in firewall to block attacks? When any program that needs sufficient rights has to be in root user?
  
  I use windows more than linux, but at least i know the truth of where they stand security wise.
- lowerlogic, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I believe fallingfree misplaced his /sarcasm tags.
- radu79, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Linux is not that 'uncrashable'. I managed to crash it once to the point where I needed a repair disk because some messed up NVidia drivers, and the system was set to boot in X, so it crashed at every restart, before I had time to do anything from the command line.
slackprad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11why in all the screenshots the user logged in as root?

Oh wait .. it's linux *XP*
- noamsml, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Wow, if this is true, it seriously makes me never want to even touch LXP. I've been staying away from Linspire for the same reason.
suicycle, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3"When the best you'll get out of an average XP computer is a week?
Then again, server 2003 can run for a long time too. But thats a server OS."

Umm... Server 2003 IS basically windows XP with more services available. Talking about winXP's stability compared to server 2003 is ignorant. maybe *your* average winXP box is loaded with malware you got while surfing porn, but a healthy xp box is just as stable as server.
- Symph0ny, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3server 2003 has a lot of multimedia services disabled by default in an effort to make things more stable. It doesn't really work though because they broke a lot of the stuff that is right in xp.
gn0me, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I use linux, some people don't, but I also don't care what other people use-- is that bad?
- hosiah, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4FAR FROM bad, it's my attitude, too. I'm absolutely baffled when people in here go "Linux must do this, this, and this!" And I go, "That doesn't make sense." and they go "Well, then, you just keep being a typical stuck-up elitist geek with your little Linux island and watch me not use it!"
  
  And they walk away in a huff. Me, I'm sitting here using what I like minding my own business wondering "What in the hell was that all about?"
  
  Rng any bells? But anyway, if Linux-XP makes anybody happy, that's a good thing.
16777216, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Looks like they stole 3 icons from every distro and mashed them into one horrid theme.
hozster, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1if this thing can play all windows xp games then i would take it.
AlphaToxic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8sorry, but this is one of the most hypocritical distros I've ever seen!!
just take a look at there manifesto:
http://www.linux-xp.com/manifesto/
bashing GNU? Praising MS? come on... And the English version of the manifesto is much softer than the one in Russian:
http://www.linux-online.ru/about/articles/detail.php?ID=897
i can't translate it all for you but here are some lines:
"UNIX is DEAD for the desktop"
"Microsoft - the best example of caring attitude towards the consumer."
GPL style - this is the Babylon tower of half dead projects with similar goals. The easy access to the source code unproductively multiplies the number of programs and divides the Linux community to small pieces.
// OK, I might be taking those lines out of context, but even in context they still sound stupid. How can one use practically unchanged GPL-ed software (only the theme is changed) and then say GPL in not working?!?!?!
I heard about this distro like 1y ago and was like WTF?!? And the irony, it didn't boot on my box...
- hosiah, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3WHOA! I didn't see all that, their server's been Dugg.
  
  Scary. Maybe they're trying to sound like an MS EULA to make people feel at home?
dilbert, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I ´love´ the screen shots where they display OpenOffice and label it as being Microsoft Office.
noamsml, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Heh.

Most Ridiculous Distro EVER.
antechinus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3This Russian distro is *****. It even has ACTIVATION codes. You can purchase an activation code for $38.90 which "guarantees unlimited runs". Bwa ha ha ha.

They would probably make more money for themselves by further developing tried and true Russian technology like keyloggers, browser hijacks, porn sites, bot farm utilities etc.
- CoolWind, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Malware is included free of charge.
fatas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2They went all out with ugly non-anti-aliased windows fonts.
Indrek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2That has got to be the ugliest, most inconsistent UI I've seen.
calande, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Installing software on Linux XP seems not easier than Fedora (YUM). I'll give it a whirl when they make software installation as easy as Windows or PC-BSD with some sort of setup.exe file.
hosiah, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Well, somebody beat me to the submission! :)

Of course, Windows-like Linux has been attempted before. Xandros, etc., not to mention desktops like KDE and FVWM-95. If it makes somebody happy, it was worth it.

But I still wonder why they try this. To me, there's no point in trying to re-shape Linux as Windows; Linux is a free Unix, the twain just don't meet and it makes no sense that they should. ReactOS is still out there begging for support, and it's whole purpose in life is to be a Windows-like system; built that way from the ground up! Meanwhile we keep trying to fit Linux into a Windows shape...

This just serves to give people what they think they want.
liuite, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0are you sure this is not a version cooked up by Dr Evil to steal all of your passwords? muhahahaha
vanshtoldt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1As I understand they want to simplify all Linux-specific stuff to miminum, so one could think he is still working in Windows ;-)

Nonetheless, some features made or declared by them seem to be very interesting:
"Desktop Management Service for Linux XP Desktop. Allows GNOME desktop remote management from MS Active Directory™ server using Microsoft Management Console™"
http://www.linux-xp.com/roadmap/

I don't remember if such stuff was made before. Sabayon?
eurgain, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3This is as bad as it gets!

First up, I am a European Patent Attorney. I do work in software, but I strongly and vocally disapprove of the drift (now under check) of the restricted European system towards the ridiculous situation in the USA. I also personally oppose European patents that I consider to have been granted improperly.

However, the people behind "Linux XP" are providing so much support for the pro-patent/IP protection lobby that I am almost convinved that they must be being paid by Microsoft. Their objective seems to be to rip off as much as they can, irrespective of whether or not is lawful or even useful.

Within the US, and to a lesser extent, within the civilised world, Microsoft could use their patents to clobber Linux. I have often wondered why Microsoft has been holding back. Europe does not have jury trials for IP cases, but judges are also influenced by the apparent behaviour of defendents.

The Linux-XP project appears to me to be a god-send for Microsoft. MS can go after them for infringement of whatever patents it chooses, but then throw in as evidence the clear fact that the project is deliberately ripping Microsoft off, with the glaringly obvious use of the trade mark XP.

I really am worried that this misguided effort could have a major detrimental impact on the wider world of open source systems.

GNU/Linux has something different to offer. PLEASE do not use it as a base to offer a poor fake of something else. It will help no-one.

A

For the benefit of previous posters, use of the superscripted TM or use of (R) is NOT appropriate in this context. These symbols are used to lay claim to a trade mark, and one should never use them when referring to trade marks that are not yours!

If you are just offering comments, along the lines of "I use Excell", there is no need to do anything at all. If you really must, use a phrase such as "Excell is a trade mark of Microsoft Corp". Using Excell^TM (I am indicating a superscript) or Excel(R) is saying "Excell is MY trade mark", and I do not think that is what you intend!
vanshtoldt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I've installed this ISO. This distro is too simple for me :-)))

eurgain> MS can go after them for infringement of whatever patents it chooses, but then throw in as evidence the clear fact that the project is deliberately ripping Microsoft off, with the glaringly obvious use of the trade mark XP.

May be I'm wrong but I couldn't find "XP" trademark here:
http://www.microsoft.com/library/toolbar/3.0/trademarks/en-us.mspx
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